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post Dec 22, 2010 - 5:08 AM
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Just wondering if anyone has endevoured to install a modern 6 speed box in a Celica yet?

Doesn't seem to be any info around, just curious.


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post Jan 13, 2011 - 5:48 PM
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here's something that confuses me... tell me if these figures are right, i pulled them from different sources, because the info is so hard to come by...

Gear Ratios
E-153:
1) 3.23:1
2) 1.91:1
3) 1.25:1
4)0.918:1
5) 0.731:1
Final Drive) 4.285:1
Reverse)3.545:1
Rear Diff) N/A

E-154f
1) 3.384:1
2) 1.913:1
3) 1.258:1
4)0.918:1
5) 0.731:1
Final Drive) 4.285:1
Reverse) 3.545:1
Rear Diff) 2.928:2

S-54
1) 3.285:1
2) 1.960:1
3) 1.322:1
4) 1.028:1
5) 0.820:1
Final Drive) 4.176:1
Reverse)3.153:1
Rear Diff) N/A

now, i realize the final drive on the E-153 is slightly longer than the S-54, but none the less.. if i'm reading these numbers (and assuming they're correct) right, the gear ratios of the S-54 are longer than the E-153...

now, what i propose.. shorter gears than the E-154f on all 5 gears, and add in a 6th as well... an idea i have in question, is what about using gears from a shorter geared 5 speed transmission, and an original gear, or just playing all-around mix-and-match... i get that there may not be space to mix-and-match to just add in one gear, but what about a custom gearset for this? if not custom-fab, piece it together from different cars' transmissions? just a thought...

QUOTE (richee3 @ Jan 13, 2011 - 5:40 PM) *
QUOTE (Detatch @ Jan 13, 2011 - 4:50 PM) *
i'm not wanting longer gearing in the celica.. i'm aiming for 6 shorter gears.

I'm a bit confused by this statement. What you're saying is.... You want the same speed capabilities but with more shifting??? confused.gif


because shorter gears means more easy acceleration... more gears means more shifting, but allows for closer gearing for better acceleration... less rotational resistance... why did anyone ever make a 6 speed in the first place?

Posts in this topic
- delusionz   Any options for a 6 speed that mates up with our engines?   Dec 22, 2010 - 5:08 AM
- - Johnnyny   nope looks like best gearing is from e153 can be u...   Dec 22, 2010 - 5:25 AM
- - taibones   yeah its been done, a stock 7th gen gts lol   Dec 24, 2010 - 4:40 PM
- - Bitter   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_C_tran...peed_...   Dec 25, 2010 - 5:05 PM
- - delusionz   Still just for the 7afe and 4age guys.. nothing fo...   Dec 26, 2010 - 7:28 AM
- - Detatch   anyone have the gear ratios for the 1-5 on the E-1...   Jan 10, 2011 - 4:08 PM
- - stephen_lee   you know, all E series trannies use the same case,...   Jan 11, 2011 - 12:38 PM
|- - Detatch   QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Jan 11, 2011 - 12...   Jan 11, 2011 - 1:03 PM
|- - Johnnyny   QUOTE (Detatch @ Jan 11, 2011 - 1:03...   Jan 11, 2011 - 8:28 PM
|- - Bitter   QUOTE (Johnnyny @ Jan 11, 2011 - 9:2...   Jan 11, 2011 - 8:33 PM
|- - Detatch   QUOTE (Bitter @ Jan 11, 2011 - 8:33 ...   Jan 11, 2011 - 9:29 PM
- - Johnnyny   not trying to put anyone down if anyone can and do...   Jan 11, 2011 - 10:23 PM
- - 3WayStunna   A 6th gear has been done with the st205 tranny...a...   Jan 11, 2011 - 11:37 PM
- - FORGMANN   I have a 6 spd from Toyota Auris i imported from U...   Jan 12, 2011 - 12:02 PM
|- - Detatch   QUOTE (FORGMANN @ Jan 12, 2011 - 12...   Jan 12, 2011 - 6:24 PM
- - 95CelicaST   2gr+6sp+mr2?? Yes, please.   Jan 12, 2011 - 12:10 PM
- - stephen_lee   2gr + turbo + 6sd + awd + celica. get on it. it...   Jan 12, 2011 - 1:01 PM
- - 95CelicaST   I don't know how well a stock 2gr would handle...   Jan 12, 2011 - 2:58 PM
- - Detatch   IDEA IDEA IDEA!!!! what are the E...   Jan 12, 2011 - 7:39 PM
- - presure2   it wont work, there isnt enough space in the case....   Jan 13, 2011 - 8:55 AM
|- - Detatch   QUOTE (presure2 @ Jan 13, 2011 - 8:5...   Jan 13, 2011 - 4:50 PM
|- - richee3   QUOTE (Detatch @ Jan 13, 2011 - 4:50...   Jan 13, 2011 - 5:40 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (Detatch @ Jan 13, 2011 - 4:50...   Jan 13, 2011 - 5:44 PM
- - Detatch   here's something that confuses me... tell me i...   Jan 13, 2011 - 5:48 PM
- - richee3   Why did anyone ever make a 6 speed? To have more d...   Jan 13, 2011 - 6:21 PM
|- - Detatch   QUOTE (richee3 @ Jan 13, 2011 - 6:21...   Jan 13, 2011 - 9:00 PM
- - stephen_lee   take it from a guy thats pulled the trannies apart...   Jan 15, 2011 - 2:56 PM
|- - Detatch   QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Jan 15, 2011 - 2...   Jan 15, 2011 - 6:06 PM
- - stephen_lee   i say that cause the shafts are machined to accept...   Jan 17, 2011 - 5:40 PM
|- - azian_advanced   QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Jan 17, 2011 - 4...   Jan 28, 2011 - 12:05 AM
- - spolski07   my z's 6th gear is used mostly for highway cru...   Jan 28, 2011 - 1:13 AM


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