Jan 15, 2011 - 8:32 PM
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hey everyone,
here's what I 'think' I know. The awd system fitted into the st205 is pretty ancient compared to today's cars, but was decent when it first came out and was organized out like this: 1. There was an open differential in the transversely mounted transmission that had a transfer case coming out of the rear. 2. No center differential but a center bearing instead. So it always had a 50/50 front/rear torque split 3. rear differential came with a torsen limited slip lets compare this to other awd systems. Past and present. Subaru is really big on the fact that they have a symmetrical awd system. Do you guys think the fact that an st205s unequal front axles hurts the car? and, could it be possible to fit the limited slip from an mr2 and have torsens front and rear? I think that would be interesting since apparently one of the biggest handling problems with the st205 is that the the inside front wheels spin on really sharp turns. heres an interesting video comparing modern awd system: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooQRxlChvMw -------------------- ![]() |
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Jan 16, 2011 - 11:48 AM
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Just to add my comments. Yes the gt4s all share equal length axles, the rear are the same lengths and the fronts aswell. The st205 axles you have pictured are 1 piece design, but the older versions (st185,165) are 2 piece design allowing the to be hybridized nicely.
There is a center differential in the transmission, its located inside the transfer case. It is not fully open in the sense that if one wheel is free all the power goes there. It has a split between the front and rear, so if one wheel is free at the front, power goes to the back. You can further this by adding the LSD rear end which came optional in the st185, came factory on st185 CS/RC, and also st205 chassis. I think personally the all wheel drive system is great. The tranny is very strong holding holding all the power I have thrown at it, and also I have never had issues with torque steer sometimes experiences on FWD bias AWD cars. Even at power levels just shy of 500AWHP. On thing to remember is that this car is not AWD, it is 4WD. Love that gt4 |
enderswift Detailed discussion of Toyotas awd system Jan 15, 2011 - 8:32 PM
playr158 You can get CUSCO differentials for the ST205 Jan 15, 2011 - 11:51 PM
delusionz The GT4 should have no problem getting up that ram... Jan 16, 2011 - 4:35 AM
delusionz QUOTE (enderswift @ Jan 16, 2011 - 1... Jan 16, 2011 - 4:52 AM
3WayStunna Firstly i want to know who said GT4's have une... Jan 16, 2011 - 7:57 AM
presure2 yea, the '4's front axles are equal legnth... Jan 16, 2011 - 8:39 AM
enderswift awesome this cleared up some misconceptions. I ass... Jan 16, 2011 - 3:36 PM
Hanyo QUOTE (enderswift @ Jan 16, 2011 - 12... Jan 17, 2011 - 6:48 PM
bccentaur3 Given the fact that the Sti's and evos have a ... Jan 16, 2011 - 6:25 PM
3WayStunna True, when compared to AWD/4WD systems of today, t... Jan 17, 2011 - 12:22 AM
ST205WRC 3WayStunna i think you hit the nail on the head. i... Jan 17, 2011 - 2:51 AM
enderswift QUOTE On thing to remember is that this car is not... Jan 17, 2011 - 11:21 AM
jeffrosie Read some where that the last of the 1st Rav4 with... Jan 17, 2011 - 5:59 PM
enderswift could someone post pictures of the underside of an... Jan 22, 2011 - 11:25 AM
bccentaur3 QUOTE (enderswift @ Jan 22, 2011 - 10... Jan 24, 2011 - 1:09 PM
nammer QUOTE (enderswift @ Jan 22, 2011 - 8... Jan 26, 2011 - 12:12 AM
Neon90424 That first video is a subaru fanboy drooling over ... Jan 22, 2011 - 1:53 PM
delusionz QUOTE (Neon90424 @ Jan 23, 2011 - 6... Jan 24, 2011 - 5:55 PM
3WayStunna Not too true delusionz...try a stiffer rear end, a... Jan 24, 2011 - 8:02 PM
delusionz on factory suspension my st205 understeer drifts o... Jan 24, 2011 - 10:14 PM
delusionz that bolt on exhaust system from japan has a reall... Jan 26, 2011 - 6:18 AM
enderswift QUOTE What I plan to do with the build is essentia... Jan 27, 2011 - 11:39 AM
3WayStunna Why not install the rear diff and support etc. etc... Jan 28, 2011 - 6:02 PM
enderswift QUOTE (3WayStunna @ Jan 28, 2011 - 6... Jan 28, 2011 - 6:33 PM![]() ![]() |
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