Jan 20, 2011 - 2:05 PM
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So im still a little confused on what all is involved when swapping the wiring from the 7a to the 4age.
The wiring harness has to be extended and some parts of the 7a tied into it correct? Just confused on what all is involved in the task, if someone could clear this up for me it would be greatly appreciated -------------------- 1996 Toyota Celica Project Mean Green
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Jan 24, 2011 - 11:38 AM
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20v's heavily rely on the close ratio gear boxes theyre usually mated up to.
i dont know about at200 celicas but i know that ae111 corolla/trueno/levin for the same gear and the same speed, when a 3s/5s powered celica cruises at 2000rpm those 20v's cruise at 3000rpm for the same speed, and its not until 5th or 6th gear that the revs are the same as what a celica cruises at. what this means in effect is... if u keep ur standard gearbox, and say if 2nd gear used to redline at 60mph and 6000rpm then with the 20v in 2nd gear your redline (and peak power) will be at 80mph and 8000rpm. this means ull never be in power band when u go around corners unless ur still in 1st gear, but thats ok, its no worse than before since your 7a never made any power anyways. i dont know if u can use the 6 speed gearbox in ur celica that high spec blacktop cars had, but atleast get the 5 speed that they also came with. EDIT: oh and the other thing is 20v's rely on the lightweightness of the car. in a 20v powered car the only way they can punch as hard as a celica from 3000rpm is by having 200kgs less weight. This post has been edited by delusionz: Jan 24, 2011 - 11:44 AM -------------------- Mike W
1996 Toyota Celica ST205 GT-FOUR GT2860RS turbine, TiAL mvr44, JE 86.5φ piston, Clutchmasters FX400, APEX P-FC 269awhp / 273ft-lbs |
96stgreendemon Swap harness question Jan 20, 2011 - 2:05 PM
richee3 The wiring harness doesn't necessarily have to... Jan 20, 2011 - 2:25 PM
96stgreendemon Ok let me get this, so does the ecu just connect t... Jan 20, 2011 - 2:52 PM
PhoenixTech QUOTE (96stgreendemon @ Jan 20, 2011 - 3... Jan 21, 2011 - 11:48 AM
96stgreendemon Yeah its going to be a 20v swap, you have mail Jan 21, 2011 - 3:42 PM
95CelicaST As I stated in another thread, mr220v on mr2oc and... Jan 21, 2011 - 4:12 PM
PhoenixTech QUOTE (96stgreendemon @ Jan 21, 2011 - 3... Jan 21, 2011 - 5:55 PM
richee3 Definitely swapping a 20V in, Kyle? Jan 22, 2011 - 1:31 PM
96stgreendemon Its looking that way, still looking between a silv... Jan 22, 2011 - 1:53 PM
richee3 Awesome! I've been trying to convince peop... Jan 22, 2011 - 2:08 PM
96stgreendemon Yeah, and it just seems like there are not enough ... Jan 22, 2011 - 2:30 PM
SupraKid Youll be the first DOCUMENTED swap, if you do do i... Jan 22, 2011 - 3:57 PM
96stgreendemon Eh i was looking at a rebuild on the 7a, but by th... Jan 22, 2011 - 5:05 PM
95CelicaST 160ish from a Blacktop?
Try 135whp. For real. Jan 22, 2011 - 8:26 PM
richee3 ^^ Which is what the 5S gets to the crank. Not a b... Jan 23, 2011 - 10:42 AM
lagos QUOTE (richee3 @ Jan 23, 2011 - 10:4... Jan 23, 2011 - 11:46 AM
richee3 QUOTE (lagos @ Jan 23, 2011 - 12:46 ... Jan 23, 2011 - 6:10 PM
95CelicaST The 20v is a cool swap for a show car, but in real... Jan 23, 2011 - 1:08 PM
96stgreendemon Yes i know that its not a big improvement, but im ... Jan 23, 2011 - 4:49 PM
95CelicaST Figure about 40whp, but the torque curve isn't... Jan 23, 2011 - 6:25 PM
96stgreendemon Wait, it feels slower? Jan 24, 2011 - 10:05 AM
96stgreendemon Im planning to use the 5 speed LSD transmission th... Jan 24, 2011 - 11:40 AM
95CelicaST the 5sp is still a c52 transmission, so unless the... Jan 24, 2011 - 1:41 PM
96stgreendemon Bump, anyone with a 20v have any imput? i know the... Jan 24, 2011 - 2:10 PM
SupraKid Netrata in the 808 has a silvertop Jan 24, 2011 - 2:18 PM
95CelicaST When I had the Yelli Celi dynoed it put down 130wh... Jan 24, 2011 - 2:24 PM
96stgreendemon Hmm..... Well depending on the price difference i ... Jan 24, 2011 - 2:32 PM
delusionz silvertop vs blacktop?? the torque is the same. ho... Jan 24, 2011 - 5:50 PM
95CelicaST Wrong.
Peak power is made in the 6k rpm range...... Jan 24, 2011 - 6:00 PM
delusionz QUOTE (95CelicaST @ Jan 25, 2011 - 11... Jan 24, 2011 - 11:34 PM
presure2 swap a 4a, be prepared for disappointment.
you won... Jan 24, 2011 - 6:25 PM
96stgreendemon So basically the 4age is just a waste of money? Jan 24, 2011 - 7:23 PM
SupraKid Not if you HAVE to rebuild your 7afe...I mean yes ... Jan 24, 2011 - 8:42 PM
95st-celica if your looking for an N/A motor to build and keep... Jan 24, 2011 - 8:53 PM
96stgreendemon Im in need of a rebuild, but i also need to look a... Jan 24, 2011 - 9:24 PM
95CelicaST Webcams isn't going to get you cams for a 20V.... Jan 24, 2011 - 11:24 PM
SupraKid Kyle do you plan to swap the tranny as well?Or kee... Jan 24, 2011 - 11:24 PM
97lestyousay The 4a is a good motor I would take a 16V 4AGE ove... Jan 25, 2011 - 12:32 AM
richee3 It wouldn't be that much more difficult to swa... Jan 25, 2011 - 1:22 AM
njccmd2002 4A Swaps sound cool and all, but really, what are ... Jan 25, 2011 - 2:31 AM
SupraKid You guys are looking at this like he wants to swap... Jan 25, 2011 - 4:47 AM
njccmd2002 two things..
Whatever rocks your Boat!
Do it... Jan 25, 2011 - 5:03 AM
96stgreendemon Here is the thing, yes like i have said and suprak... Jan 25, 2011 - 11:48 AM
Keiri If those are your reasons then I'd say you... Jan 25, 2011 - 1:14 PM
HectortheRican I used to be so set on swapping in a 20V, but afte... Jan 25, 2011 - 3:03 PM
96stgreendemon I still plan to go with the 20 valve now, i actual... Jan 26, 2011 - 5:39 PM
96stgreendemon Bump.... back on topic, does anyone know which wir... Feb 1, 2011 - 9:06 AM![]() ![]() |
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