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post Jan 15, 2011 - 8:32 PM
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hey everyone,

here's what I 'think' I know. The awd system fitted into the st205 is pretty ancient compared to today's cars, but was decent when it first came out and was organized out like this:

1. There was an open differential in the transversely mounted transmission that had a transfer case coming out of the rear.
2. No center differential but a center bearing instead. So it always had a 50/50 front/rear torque split
3. rear differential came with a torsen limited slip

lets compare this to other awd systems. Past and present. Subaru is really big on the fact that they have a symmetrical awd system. Do you guys think the fact that an st205s unequal front axles hurts the car?

and, could it be possible to fit the limited slip from an mr2 and have torsens front and rear? I think that would be interesting since apparently one of the biggest handling problems with the st205 is that the the inside front wheels spin on really sharp turns.

heres an interesting video comparing modern awd system:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooQRxlChvMw


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post Jan 24, 2011 - 8:02 PM
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Not too true delusionz...try a stiffer rear end, a GT4 making around 280-320 horses, and a bit of clutch kicking with the right tires, and you can get it to do that...oh and might i add some extreme guts...

I dont have video proof so you would have to take my word, But i have initiated a 3rd and 2nd gear drift before...not the safest thing i have done because i was hauling ass at to do it, but still can be done on tarmac/road surfaces. If you want, i had help with a stiffer rear ARB, and my front dampner settings set softer than the rears....

On gravel and grass it meant i had no control of the a$$ end whatsoever...could barely drive the car right lol...
Anywho, there are some videos on youtube of a GT4 drifting with an 180 and an MR2 up on a track here in mainland japan...cant find it though.

EDIT: think this is it.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqKgyRRtVa0...feature=related

Also i hear from the UK guys that a 2 way or 1.5 way center diff would help out dramatically..although i dont think i want to do that to my car.....might go with a 1.5 way if i ever did though...

This post has been edited by 3WayStunna: Jan 24, 2011 - 8:25 PM


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Posts in this topic
- enderswift   Detailed discussion of Toyotas awd system   Jan 15, 2011 - 8:32 PM
- - playr158   You can get CUSCO differentials for the ST205   Jan 15, 2011 - 11:51 PM
- - delusionz   The GT4 should have no problem getting up that ram...   Jan 16, 2011 - 4:35 AM
- - delusionz   QUOTE (enderswift @ Jan 16, 2011 - 1...   Jan 16, 2011 - 4:52 AM
- - 3WayStunna   Firstly i want to know who said GT4's have une...   Jan 16, 2011 - 7:57 AM
- - presure2   yea, the '4's front axles are equal legnth...   Jan 16, 2011 - 8:39 AM
- - klue   Just to add my comments. Yes the gt4s all share eq...   Jan 16, 2011 - 11:48 AM
- - enderswift   awesome this cleared up some misconceptions. I ass...   Jan 16, 2011 - 3:36 PM
|- - Hanyo   QUOTE (enderswift @ Jan 16, 2011 - 12...   Jan 17, 2011 - 6:48 PM
- - bccentaur3   Given the fact that the Sti's and evos have a ...   Jan 16, 2011 - 6:25 PM
- - 3WayStunna   True, when compared to AWD/4WD systems of today, t...   Jan 17, 2011 - 12:22 AM
- - ST205WRC   3WayStunna i think you hit the nail on the head. i...   Jan 17, 2011 - 2:51 AM
- - enderswift   QUOTE On thing to remember is that this car is not...   Jan 17, 2011 - 11:21 AM
- - jeffrosie   Read some where that the last of the 1st Rav4 with...   Jan 17, 2011 - 5:59 PM
- - enderswift   could someone post pictures of the underside of an...   Jan 22, 2011 - 11:25 AM
|- - bccentaur3   QUOTE (enderswift @ Jan 22, 2011 - 10...   Jan 24, 2011 - 1:09 PM
|- - nammer   QUOTE (enderswift @ Jan 22, 2011 - 8...   Jan 26, 2011 - 12:12 AM
- - Neon90424   That first video is a subaru fanboy drooling over ...   Jan 22, 2011 - 1:53 PM
|- - delusionz   QUOTE (Neon90424 @ Jan 23, 2011 - 6...   Jan 24, 2011 - 5:55 PM
- - 3WayStunna   Not too true delusionz...try a stiffer rear end, a...   Jan 24, 2011 - 8:02 PM
- - delusionz   on factory suspension my st205 understeer drifts o...   Jan 24, 2011 - 10:14 PM
- - delusionz   that bolt on exhaust system from japan has a reall...   Jan 26, 2011 - 6:18 AM
- - enderswift   QUOTE What I plan to do with the build is essentia...   Jan 27, 2011 - 11:39 AM
- - 3WayStunna   Why not install the rear diff and support etc. etc...   Jan 28, 2011 - 6:02 PM
- - enderswift   QUOTE (3WayStunna @ Jan 28, 2011 - 6...   Jan 28, 2011 - 6:33 PM


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