 ct26 turbine wheels, JDM ceramic versus USDM steel, differences? Are they noticeable or negligible? |
 May 3, 2011 - 12:14 AM
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Soooooooo, I have had to send my 26 out to be rebuilt and in the process have found that the turbine wheels need to be changed. The shop that has the turbo says that they can't get the JDM ceramic wheels so they will have to use steel ones.
1) how will this affect my spool time/ Lag? (new to forced induction, understand the basics but am still a little fuzzy on the intricacies) 2) anyone know where to get the ceramic wheels? 3) any one have a JDM importers # or a 26 or 20b they can spare? Thanks for your input and assistance all. |
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May 3, 2011 - 9:01 PM
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QUOTE (Darkchylde @ May 3, 2011 - 12:14 AM)  Soooooooo, I have had to send my 26 out to be rebuilt and in the process have found that the turbine wheels need to be changed. The shop that has the turbo says that they can't get the JDM ceramic wheels so they will have to use steel ones. 1) how will this affect my spool time/ Lag? (new to forced induction, understand the basics but am still a little fuzzy on the intricacies) 2) anyone know where to get the ceramic wheels? 3) any one have a JDM importers # or a 26 or 20b they can spare? Thanks for your input and assistance all. Stay away from the ceramic wheel, IMHO that's one of the worst things about the CT26. When they get hot they can shatter. If you're running low octane you have to retard timing at higher boost levels to prevent det and the wheel gets hotter while pushing harder. Go with the steel wheel rebuild if it's heaps cheaper than buying a new turbo, be aware that a 2nd hand turbo could be due for a rebuild too (would be more worth it with a '20b'. ST215 Caldina GTT turbo (C15?) will bolt up to a gen3 engine and isn't a bad option either. |
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May 3, 2011 - 10:16 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 11, '07 From carmel, new york Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
QUOTE (korban @ May 3, 2011 - 10:01 PM) Stay away from the ceramic wheel, IMHO that's one of the worst things about the CT26. When they get hot they can shatter. If you're running low octane you have to retard timing at higher boost levels to prevent det and the wheel gets hotter while pushing harder. Go with the steel wheel rebuild if it's heaps cheaper than buying a new turbo, be aware that a 2nd hand turbo could be due for a rebuild too (would be more worth it with a '20b'. ST215 Caldina GTT turbo (C15?) will bolt up to a gen3 engine and isn't a bad option either. I was under the impression that the ceramics allowed for faster spooling and reduced load. Am I incorrect in this assumption. This post has been edited by Darkchylde: May 3, 2011 - 10:17 PM |
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Darkchylde ct26 turbine wheels, JDM ceramic versus USDM steel May 3, 2011 - 12:14 AM
brenton1919 QUOTE (Darkchylde @ May 3, 2011 - 12... May 3, 2011 - 12:22 AM Darkchylde If I recall correctly the ct27 is a 26 housing wit... May 3, 2011 - 1:11 AM
brenton1919 QUOTE (Darkchylde @ May 3, 2011 - 2... May 3, 2011 - 1:21 AM Darkchylde does any one have the specs for the ct 27? May 3, 2011 - 1:55 AM delusionz ct26 is crap nomatter what they do with it.
for s... May 3, 2011 - 5:44 AM brenton1919 QUOTE (delusionz @ May 3, 2011 - 6:4... May 3, 2011 - 1:52 PM Darkchylde Okay from what I can tell Delusionz, you ARE defin... May 3, 2011 - 7:43 AM Culpable04 the cost of a CT27 is not worthy. your best bet is... May 3, 2011 - 7:59 AM lagos QUOTE (Darkchylde @ May 3, 2011 - 8... May 3, 2011 - 8:54 AM delusionz Yeah I'm the one that's blown a ct20b and ... May 3, 2011 - 10:54 AM delusionz I don't know, Someone will try and correct me ... May 3, 2011 - 5:02 PM brenton1919 QUOTE (delusionz @ May 3, 2011 - 5:0... May 3, 2011 - 5:30 PM delusionz QUOTE (brenton1919 @ May 4, 2011 - 10... May 4, 2011 - 6:12 AM brenton1919 QUOTE (delusionz @ May 4, 2011 - 7:1... May 4, 2011 - 3:24 PM delusionz QUOTE (brenton1919 @ May 5, 2011 - 8... May 4, 2011 - 5:02 PM brenton1919 i have unhooked my turbo off of my engine and kept... May 4, 2011 - 10:35 PM Darkchylde Some background, I have a 2nd gen 3sgte, e153 tran... May 3, 2011 - 10:10 PM korban You seem pretty well setup there, what ECU are you... May 3, 2011 - 10:25 PM Darkchylde Not, keen on the ceramic per se, just trying to ge... May 3, 2011 - 11:17 PM easternpiro1 glad i stumbled onto this thread. I so happen to h... May 3, 2011 - 11:50 PM Darkchylde Sure you don't want to part with that 20b brot... May 4, 2011 - 12:14 AM brenton1919 QUOTE (Darkchylde @ May 4, 2011 - 1... May 4, 2011 - 1:39 AM easternpiro1 lol let me get her up and runnin, and rolling for ... May 4, 2011 - 1:54 AM Culpable04 ceramic wheel makes for a faster spool, but is wea... May 4, 2011 - 8:51 AM delusionz berk pipe and injectors 700hp are you kidding?
No... May 4, 2011 - 6:18 PM Darkchylde Alright fellas, play nice. I know everyone has th... May 4, 2011 - 9:29 PM brenton1919 QUOTE (Darkchylde @ May 4, 2011 - 9... May 4, 2011 - 10:41 PM easternpiro1 i like this darkchylde guy classy guy.
and delusi... May 4, 2011 - 10:10 PM Darkchylde 'preciate it 'piro. If you come to a deci... May 4, 2011 - 10:37 PM Darkchylde thanks brenton, Turbo found!!!!... May 4, 2011 - 11:31 PM Darkchylde Well, found the turbo, and the injectors both shou... May 6, 2011 - 2:01 PM lagos QUOTE (brenton1919 @ May 4, 2011 - 11... May 6, 2011 - 2:37 PM brenton1919 QUOTE (lagos @ May 6, 2011 - 2:37 PM... May 6, 2011 - 3:11 PM korban They should fit, and would be the same flow as fac... May 6, 2011 - 3:39 PM brenton1919 QUOTE (korban @ May 6, 2011 - 3:39 P... May 6, 2011 - 3:55 PM presure2 brenton, brent both 2nd and 3rd gen have side feed... May 8, 2011 - 7:14 AM easternpiro1 QUOTE (presure2 @ May 8, 2011 - 8:14... May 8, 2011 - 9:30 AM brenton1919 Iiiiii yessss I'm sorry guys its all good in t... May 8, 2011 - 3:11 PM Darkchylde Thanks Manny, just got a 20B shipped over from PR.... May 8, 2011 - 6:38 PM delusionz Sorry guys, It was already gone a bit too far and ... May 8, 2011 - 9:17 PM brenton1919 QUOTE (delusionz @ May 8, 2011 - 10... May 8, 2011 - 10:05 PM delusionz this is what we call an upgraded ct26 or a ct26/t0... May 8, 2011 - 10:23 PM delusionz I found another pic of a T04e upgraded CT26 which ... May 9, 2011 - 4:37 AM delusionz And here is Darkchyld's CT20b showing 5 blades May 9, 2011 - 4:43 AM delusionz CT20b we know is 48mm
CT26 is 42mm
Mine apparently... May 9, 2011 - 4:47 AM brenton1919 QUOTE (delusionz @ May 9, 2011 - 4:4... May 9, 2011 - 5:38 AM delusionz And here you can see ATS racing CT27 turbos with 6... May 9, 2011 - 4:51 AM presure2 the key to the 27 is the exhaust side work.
thats ... May 9, 2011 - 5:50 AM delusionz thanks presure2, the exhaust side on a 26 is sligh... May 9, 2011 - 5:53 AM brenton1919 [quote name='delusionz' date='May 9, 2... May 9, 2011 - 6:51 AM delusionz i wanna know what spoolup is like on CT27.
Car gi... May 9, 2011 - 7:04 AM brenton1919 QUOTE (delusionz @ May 9, 2011 - 7:0... May 9, 2011 - 7:22 AM delusionz http://www.mrcontrols.com/primers/turbo.htm
QUOTE... May 10, 2011 - 8:10 AM delusionz This what ATS do? Clip the USDM steel exhaust whee... May 10, 2011 - 8:22 AM brenton1919 QUOTE (delusionz @ May 10, 2011 - 9... May 10, 2011 - 9:02 AM korban QUOTE (delusionz @ May 9, 2011 - 7:0... May 10, 2011 - 6:57 PM brenton1919 QUOTE (korban @ May 10, 2011 - 6:57 ... May 10, 2011 - 7:41 PM delusionz QUOTE (brenton1919 @ May 11, 2011 - 12... May 10, 2011 - 7:55 PM brenton1919 QUOTE (delusionz @ May 10, 2011 - 8... May 10, 2011 - 8:00 PM brenton1919 [/quote] hey delusionz didn't u say it has he ... May 10, 2011 - 11:51 PM delusionz QUOTE (brenton1919 @ May 11, 2011 - 4... May 11, 2011 - 12:37 AM delusionz You get a kick at 3000 though, i didn't get a ... May 10, 2011 - 7:15 PM delusionz i vividly remember the limited days i had with a c... May 10, 2011 - 7:23 PM delusionz In my opinion to best use a CT26/T04e-46 hybrid tu... May 10, 2011 - 7:35 PM Darkchylde LONG story short it is in but the waste gate is no... May 10, 2011 - 10:21 PM delusionz Congrats dude, I knew the difference would be incr... May 10, 2011 - 11:50 PM Darkchylde From the look of your profile pick Delusionz you h... May 11, 2011 - 12:16 AM delusionz Had to grind the red bit here (on the downpipe not... May 11, 2011 - 12:40 AM Darkchylde Correct Delusionz< if I didn't "clock... May 11, 2011 - 12:49 AM delusionz Well you wouldn't be able to use the heat shie... May 11, 2011 - 12:56 AM Darkchylde With that actuator rod yeah no heat shield. As mu... May 11, 2011 - 1:21 AM Darkchylde On a much better note I have new news on my old CT... May 12, 2011 - 11:02 PM |
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