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post May 3, 2011 - 12:14 AM
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Darkchylde



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Soooooooo, I have had to send my 26 out to be rebuilt and in the process have found that the turbine wheels need to be changed. The shop that has the turbo says that they can't get the JDM ceramic wheels so they will have to use steel ones.

1) how will this affect my spool time/ Lag? (new to forced induction, understand the basics but am still a little fuzzy on the intricacies)

2) anyone know where to get the ceramic wheels?

3) any one have a JDM importers # or a 26 or 20b they can spare?

Thanks for your input and assistance all.
 
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post May 11, 2011 - 12:16 AM
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From the look of your profile pick Delusionz you have the GT-4 setup, I don't I have a FMIC instead of the top mount that you have, so I have to "clock" or rotate my compressor housing. When you do that you have to remove the waste gate actuator from the housing because it can either no longer operate at that angle or because of clearance issues with the hood and or coolant lines I believe. When you do this you have to make a bracket plate that is connected to the trans bolts, the spacing compared to that of the original mount point on the housing is shorter in distance than the original placement. Thusly you have to bend the actuator rod to a shorter overall length. That length being 7 + 3/4". Either my actuator rod is too long or the plate isn't rigid enough to withstand the movement. ( Again as before no sarcasm or condescension, IF you already knew this I was just trying to give an in depth explanation)

Brenton1919: I have checked the down pipe and measured the tolerances as well as removed my O2 sensor and visually inspected the movement of my waste gate. I peened the inside of the down pipe to insure that I had an extra 1/8" of room. 1" in from the edge of the flange is where the waste gate sits and it rises about 1 + 1/8" above the flange edge, so I have made extra sure that there are no clearance issue, thank you for the reminder though.(Same as above, no sarcasm, just information)

On a side note, I need to start using other forms of letting people know that I am just explaining, these side notes make me sound all sheepish. So raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwrrr, piss off and stuff! biggrin.gif laugh.gif biggrin.gif laugh.gif

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- Darkchylde   ct26 turbine wheels, JDM ceramic versus USDM steel   May 3, 2011 - 12:14 AM
- - brenton1919   QUOTE (Darkchylde @ May 3, 2011 - 12...   May 3, 2011 - 12:22 AM
- - Darkchylde   If I recall correctly the ct27 is a 26 housing wit...   May 3, 2011 - 1:11 AM
|- - brenton1919   QUOTE (Darkchylde @ May 3, 2011 - 2...   May 3, 2011 - 1:21 AM
- - Darkchylde   does any one have the specs for the ct 27?   May 3, 2011 - 1:55 AM
- - delusionz   ct26 is crap nomatter what they do with it. for s...   May 3, 2011 - 5:44 AM
|- - brenton1919   QUOTE (delusionz @ May 3, 2011 - 6:4...   May 3, 2011 - 1:52 PM
- - Darkchylde   Okay from what I can tell Delusionz, you ARE defin...   May 3, 2011 - 7:43 AM
- - Culpable04   the cost of a CT27 is not worthy. your best bet is...   May 3, 2011 - 7:59 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE (Darkchylde @ May 3, 2011 - 8...   May 3, 2011 - 8:54 AM
- - delusionz   Yeah I'm the one that's blown a ct20b and ...   May 3, 2011 - 10:54 AM
- - delusionz   I don't know, Someone will try and correct me ...   May 3, 2011 - 5:02 PM
|- - brenton1919   QUOTE (delusionz @ May 3, 2011 - 5:0...   May 3, 2011 - 5:30 PM
|- - delusionz   QUOTE (brenton1919 @ May 4, 2011 - 10...   May 4, 2011 - 6:12 AM
|- - brenton1919   QUOTE (delusionz @ May 4, 2011 - 7:1...   May 4, 2011 - 3:24 PM
|- - delusionz   QUOTE (brenton1919 @ May 5, 2011 - 8...   May 4, 2011 - 5:02 PM
|- - brenton1919   i have unhooked my turbo off of my engine and kept...   May 4, 2011 - 10:35 PM
- - korban   QUOTE (Darkchylde @ May 3, 2011 - 12...   May 3, 2011 - 9:01 PM
|- - Darkchylde   QUOTE (korban @ May 3, 2011 - 10:01 ...   May 3, 2011 - 10:16 PM
- - Darkchylde   Some background, I have a 2nd gen 3sgte, e153 tran...   May 3, 2011 - 10:10 PM
- - korban   You seem pretty well setup there, what ECU are you...   May 3, 2011 - 10:25 PM
- - Darkchylde   Not, keen on the ceramic per se, just trying to ge...   May 3, 2011 - 11:17 PM
- - easternpiro1   glad i stumbled onto this thread. I so happen to h...   May 3, 2011 - 11:50 PM
- - Darkchylde   Sure you don't want to part with that 20b brot...   May 4, 2011 - 12:14 AM
|- - brenton1919   QUOTE (Darkchylde @ May 4, 2011 - 1...   May 4, 2011 - 1:39 AM
- - easternpiro1   lol let me get her up and runnin, and rolling for ...   May 4, 2011 - 1:54 AM
- - Culpable04   ceramic wheel makes for a faster spool, but is wea...   May 4, 2011 - 8:51 AM
- - delusionz   berk pipe and injectors 700hp are you kidding? No...   May 4, 2011 - 6:18 PM
- - Darkchylde   Alright fellas, play nice. I know everyone has th...   May 4, 2011 - 9:29 PM
|- - brenton1919   QUOTE (Darkchylde @ May 4, 2011 - 9...   May 4, 2011 - 10:41 PM
- - easternpiro1   i like this darkchylde guy classy guy. and delusi...   May 4, 2011 - 10:10 PM
- - Darkchylde   'preciate it 'piro. If you come to a deci...   May 4, 2011 - 10:37 PM
- - Darkchylde   thanks brenton, Turbo found!!!!...   May 4, 2011 - 11:31 PM
- - Darkchylde   Well, found the turbo, and the injectors both shou...   May 6, 2011 - 2:01 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (brenton1919 @ May 4, 2011 - 11...   May 6, 2011 - 2:37 PM
|- - brenton1919   QUOTE (lagos @ May 6, 2011 - 2:37 PM...   May 6, 2011 - 3:11 PM
- - korban   They should fit, and would be the same flow as fac...   May 6, 2011 - 3:39 PM
|- - brenton1919   QUOTE (korban @ May 6, 2011 - 3:39 P...   May 6, 2011 - 3:55 PM
- - presure2   brenton, brent both 2nd and 3rd gen have side feed...   May 8, 2011 - 7:14 AM
|- - easternpiro1   QUOTE (presure2 @ May 8, 2011 - 8:14...   May 8, 2011 - 9:30 AM
|- - brenton1919   Iiiiii yessss I'm sorry guys its all good in t...   May 8, 2011 - 3:11 PM
- - Darkchylde   Thanks Manny, just got a 20B shipped over from PR....   May 8, 2011 - 6:38 PM
- - delusionz   Sorry guys, It was already gone a bit too far and ...   May 8, 2011 - 9:17 PM
|- - brenton1919   QUOTE (delusionz @ May 8, 2011 - 10...   May 8, 2011 - 10:05 PM
- - delusionz   this is what we call an upgraded ct26 or a ct26/t0...   May 8, 2011 - 10:23 PM
- - delusionz   I found another pic of a T04e upgraded CT26 which ...   May 9, 2011 - 4:37 AM
- - delusionz   And here is Darkchyld's CT20b showing 5 blades   May 9, 2011 - 4:43 AM
- - delusionz   CT20b we know is 48mm CT26 is 42mm Mine apparently...   May 9, 2011 - 4:47 AM
|- - brenton1919   QUOTE (delusionz @ May 9, 2011 - 4:4...   May 9, 2011 - 5:38 AM
- - delusionz   And here you can see ATS racing CT27 turbos with 6...   May 9, 2011 - 4:51 AM
- - presure2   the key to the 27 is the exhaust side work. thats ...   May 9, 2011 - 5:50 AM
- - delusionz   thanks presure2, the exhaust side on a 26 is sligh...   May 9, 2011 - 5:53 AM
|- - brenton1919   [quote name='delusionz' date='May 9, 2...   May 9, 2011 - 6:51 AM
- - delusionz   i wanna know what spoolup is like on CT27. Car gi...   May 9, 2011 - 7:04 AM
|- - brenton1919   QUOTE (delusionz @ May 9, 2011 - 7:0...   May 9, 2011 - 7:22 AM
- - delusionz   http://www.mrcontrols.com/primers/turbo.htm QUOTE...   May 10, 2011 - 8:10 AM
- - delusionz   This what ATS do? Clip the USDM steel exhaust whee...   May 10, 2011 - 8:22 AM
|- - brenton1919   QUOTE (delusionz @ May 10, 2011 - 9...   May 10, 2011 - 9:02 AM
- - korban   QUOTE (delusionz @ May 9, 2011 - 7:0...   May 10, 2011 - 6:57 PM
|- - brenton1919   QUOTE (korban @ May 10, 2011 - 6:57 ...   May 10, 2011 - 7:41 PM
|- - delusionz   QUOTE (brenton1919 @ May 11, 2011 - 12...   May 10, 2011 - 7:55 PM
|- - brenton1919   QUOTE (delusionz @ May 10, 2011 - 8...   May 10, 2011 - 8:00 PM
|- - brenton1919   [/quote] hey delusionz didn't u say it has he ...   May 10, 2011 - 11:51 PM
|- - delusionz   QUOTE (brenton1919 @ May 11, 2011 - 4...   May 11, 2011 - 12:37 AM
- - delusionz   You get a kick at 3000 though, i didn't get a ...   May 10, 2011 - 7:15 PM
- - delusionz   i vividly remember the limited days i had with a c...   May 10, 2011 - 7:23 PM
- - delusionz   In my opinion to best use a CT26/T04e-46 hybrid tu...   May 10, 2011 - 7:35 PM
- - Darkchylde   LONG story short it is in but the waste gate is no...   May 10, 2011 - 10:21 PM
- - delusionz   Congrats dude, I knew the difference would be incr...   May 10, 2011 - 11:50 PM
- - Darkchylde   From the look of your profile pick Delusionz you h...   May 11, 2011 - 12:16 AM
- - delusionz   Had to grind the red bit here (on the downpipe not...   May 11, 2011 - 12:40 AM
- - Darkchylde   Correct Delusionz< if I didn't "clock...   May 11, 2011 - 12:49 AM
- - delusionz   Well you wouldn't be able to use the heat shie...   May 11, 2011 - 12:56 AM
- - Darkchylde   With that actuator rod yeah no heat shield. As mu...   May 11, 2011 - 1:21 AM
- - Darkchylde   On a much better note I have new news on my old CT...   May 12, 2011 - 11:02 PM


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