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post May 1, 2011 - 10:22 PM
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post May 11, 2011 - 7:31 AM
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National Institute of Science and Technology is a government backed organization. Naturally if government was involved in 9/11 in part or in whole they would be very inclined to

provide a study that omits any questional evidence that may exist and come out with a conclusion that was published in 9/11 commission report. Naturally 9/11 comission report

itself would be heavily biased by selection of people who were appointed to be on that comission, by people that were included in the comission report and by all the people and

evidence that were not included in the report.

To say that government alone had orchestrated what has happened would be an understatement and false. What is important to keep in mind that unbelievable amount of people and

organizations profitted from what has happened. That is confirmed through stock and put options, awarded multibillion dollar contracts among many other things.

Things like MOST government players involved in that chess game having been previous CEOS or bosses of oil companies like Haliburton, Chevron etc. That could be just a

coincidence but so are thousands of other "coincidences" that happened that horrible day.

Things like World Trade Center requiring major construction retrofit to keep it up to code and such retrofit would bankrupt WTC complex. Short time before 9/11 a huge insurance

policy was taken out on the complex with significant emphasis of protecting against terrorist attacks.

Things like WTC building 7 being a repository to ongoing lawsuits against companies like ENRON, various creditors and other sensitive information. Out of entire WTC complex

which apparently stood up to both twin towers collapsing and still STOOD STANDING with all the damages, debris and everything piled on top of them... that building came down

with minimal structural damage under very questionable circumstances.

Things like post soviet era where military equipment was rusting and written off in time of peace. Keeping those seats "warm" requires substantial financial commitments that

were scaled down during 10 years running up to 2001 so equipment was being either written off or about to be written off.

Things like substantial put options were placed on 2 airlines that were involved. While put options are common, timing and amounts were very questionable.

What I am trying to say is that while there was a financial benefit to the government, there was a greater benefit to private parties and businesses.

Like I said it would be a falasy to assume that government alone was involved. Every single piece of the puzzle is rigged with amazing coincidences. Every single piece of the

puzzle. The players, the responses, the reports.. I mean everything. What is remarkable is that evidence is in plain site. Not like they tried to hide it either but by shifting

public opinion from elephant in the room they have successfully been able to weather out the past 10 years. Any questions to the official story rigged with more holes than a

swiss cheese are often labeled as conspiracy theories and unpatriotic and many people just do not want to think about it.

Having said all of that... I know that it is virtually impossible to make a nonbeliever into a skeptic. I know that because I myself was convinced at once point in time that all

of the so called conspiracy theories were not justified. It took me about 10 years to fully understand which questions that were raised had any validity in them, which ones did

not and all through first 3 years of that experience I kept telling myself that "maybe it is just a coincidence" and in time I started saying "maybe there are too many

coincidences" and finally years later I became a sceptic. I do not expect you sprint or anyone else to just turn 180 and start thinking exact opposite but I do want you to keep

in mind that it is important to study history because like hemoroids it is one of those things that tends to come out every so often and repeat itself. Different times,

different faces but same issues.


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- 95CelicaST   Bin Laden dead   May 1, 2011 - 10:22 PM
- - Defgeph   Its about F'ing time.   May 1, 2011 - 10:36 PM
- - njccmd2002   Hes not dead until Donald Trump sees the death cer...   May 1, 2011 - 10:43 PM
|- - HectortheRican   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ May 1, 2011 - 9...   May 1, 2011 - 11:03 PM
- - mak5603   Cool. Now maybe we can stop being team America w...   May 1, 2011 - 10:47 PM
- - Zake   i was wondering how fast this was going to show up...   May 1, 2011 - 10:51 PM
- - 95CelicaST   I'm on the ball.   May 1, 2011 - 10:56 PM
- - cheela   heard it first from 6gc! hahahha   May 1, 2011 - 11:00 PM
- - 808celica   This must be the BEST Hide-and-Seek game ever   May 1, 2011 - 11:16 PM
- - eboz74   i think he faked his death....   May 1, 2011 - 11:21 PM
- - 95CelicaST   I heard it on tv and yelled pics or it never happe...   May 1, 2011 - 11:25 PM
- - azn87   now can our gas prices go down!!!...   May 1, 2011 - 11:44 PM
|- - Zake   QUOTE (azn87 @ May 1, 2011 - 11:44 P...   May 1, 2011 - 11:51 PM
- - SwissFerdi   How about a big who gives a ****? Sure, 9/11 was ...   May 2, 2011 - 10:34 AM
- - jordisonjr   Not to mention US still has his body so his people...   May 2, 2011 - 11:03 AM
|- - KAOS   QUOTE (jordisonjr @ May 2, 2011 - 10...   May 2, 2011 - 11:36 AM
|- - SwissFerdi   QUOTE (jordisonjr @ May 2, 2011 - 12...   May 2, 2011 - 12:05 PM
- - jordisonjr   Yea I just saw that on the news now, Last night ob...   May 2, 2011 - 12:17 PM
- - SupraKid   And? Does everyone seriously think his death is go...   May 2, 2011 - 1:32 PM
- - manphibian   It's amazing what the CoD players can achieve ...   May 2, 2011 - 4:14 PM
|- - TheChildOfTheSea   QUOTE (manphibian @ May 2, 2011 - 5...   May 2, 2011 - 4:25 PM
- - easternpiro1   im sorry... if this happened 9.5 years ago i would...   May 2, 2011 - 6:58 PM
- - Supersprynt   What was the real reason? The war and the economy...   May 2, 2011 - 7:32 PM
|- - mak5603   QUOTE (Supersprynt @ May 2, 2011 - 5...   May 2, 2011 - 7:44 PM
- - Supersprynt   Granted the government can be shady as all hell wi...   May 2, 2011 - 7:48 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (easternpiro1 @ May 2, 2011 - 7...   May 2, 2011 - 9:47 PM
- - trebilihp   Members should'nt talk about politics and/or r...   May 2, 2011 - 10:20 PM
|- - mak5603   QUOTE (trebilihp @ May 2, 2011 - 8:2...   May 3, 2011 - 2:30 AM
- - mkernz22   it's in off topic & we have freedom of spe...   May 2, 2011 - 10:24 PM
- - njccmd2002   its all a lie, Noriega, Hussein and Bin Laden are...   May 2, 2011 - 10:32 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   we shall celebrate at the falll of gas prices. So ...   May 2, 2011 - 11:21 PM
- - Supersprynt   Your getting your information about the world on Y...   May 2, 2011 - 11:26 PM
- - Promasta   proof *SNIP* jk think its a photoshop   May 2, 2011 - 11:39 PM
- - lagos   Its a fake, and a little to graphic for this site...   May 3, 2011 - 12:45 AM
- - johnnehh   Looks legit to me.   May 3, 2011 - 1:30 AM
|- - SupraKid   QUOTE (johnnehh @ May 2, 2011 - 11:3...   May 3, 2011 - 1:51 AM
- - easternpiro1   QUOTE (Supersprynt @ May 2, 2011 - 7...   May 3, 2011 - 1:46 AM
|- - Sh0gunkid8721   QUOTE (easternpiro1 @ May 2, 2011 - 11...   May 5, 2011 - 3:09 AM
- - malpaso   Are you really that optimistic? You really believe...   May 3, 2011 - 2:03 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   QUOTE (Supersprynt @ May 2, 2011 - 11...   May 3, 2011 - 2:27 AM
- - manphibian   For what it's worth i suspect that they have j...   May 3, 2011 - 2:27 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   sorrry but I just had to haha http://www.youtube....   May 3, 2011 - 2:59 AM
|- - malpaso   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ May 3, 2011 - 9...   May 3, 2011 - 4:04 AM
- - 95CelicaST   Yeah that picture is a fake. That has been proven....   May 3, 2011 - 8:38 AM
- - Supersprynt   QUOTE (easternpiro1 @ May 3, 2011 - 2...   May 3, 2011 - 9:16 AM
|- - SupraKid   QUOTE (Supersprynt @ May 3, 2011 - 7...   May 3, 2011 - 1:05 PM
- - Supersprynt   [redacted]   May 3, 2011 - 11:56 AM
- - easternpiro1   calm down calm down... so youre saying with all th...   May 3, 2011 - 12:13 PM
- - Supersprynt   I'm calm and I don't have a problem with y...   May 3, 2011 - 12:30 PM
- - lagos   I think osama died the way they said he did. I don...   May 3, 2011 - 1:47 PM
- - Supersprynt   QUOTE (SupraKid @ May 3, 2011 - 2:05...   May 3, 2011 - 2:29 PM
- - SupraKid   Because back in 2001 we knew that he had health pr...   May 3, 2011 - 2:39 PM
- - Supersprynt   Just as we "knew" there were WMDs in Ira...   May 3, 2011 - 2:47 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   do you believe in anything the Bible says!? a ...   May 3, 2011 - 8:23 PM
- - easternpiro1   the simple fact that those buildings fell the way ...   May 3, 2011 - 8:49 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   people will believe what they want to and persuadi...   May 3, 2011 - 9:16 PM
- - malpaso   FOLKS! I bet many, many of you here are patrio...   May 4, 2011 - 2:52 AM
- - Supersprynt   The Bible is irrelevant. Not sure why it's bei...   May 4, 2011 - 10:20 AM
- - easternpiro1   QUOTE (Supersprynt @ May 4, 2011 - 10...   May 4, 2011 - 1:22 PM
- - SupraKid   Haha amazing, immediate Burial at sea, no photos, ...   May 4, 2011 - 1:29 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (SupraKid @ May 4, 2011 - 2:29...   May 4, 2011 - 2:00 PM
|- - SupraKid   QUOTE (lagos @ May 4, 2011 - 12:00 P...   May 4, 2011 - 2:16 PM
- - Supersprynt   Great, now we have conspiracy theorists who say ei...   May 4, 2011 - 3:12 PM
- - SupraKid   I don't doubt hes dead, I'm sure he is. I...   May 4, 2011 - 4:04 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   ok so then your answer was c. none of the above. o...   May 4, 2011 - 9:06 PM
- - samir0189   Time for a little poetry: bin Laden is dead; why ...   May 4, 2011 - 10:45 PM
- - freddy121389   bin laden died just like they said, they wont go i...   May 4, 2011 - 11:22 PM
- - Supersprynt   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ May 4, 2011 - 10...   May 6, 2011 - 9:32 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   like i said it all comes back to religion and the ...   May 8, 2011 - 3:37 AM
- - yarik83   Supersprint. Your hypothesis of what did or did no...   May 8, 2011 - 1:59 PM
|- - easternpiro1   QUOTE (yarik83 @ May 8, 2011 - 2:59 ...   May 8, 2011 - 3:07 PM
- - richee3   A conspiracy theory is just that: a theory. It wil...   May 8, 2011 - 4:06 PM
- - yarik83   It matters a lot richee. 14 trillion dollars of ...   May 8, 2011 - 6:40 PM
- - SwissFerdi   He's back, ladies and gentlemen. A round of ap...   May 8, 2011 - 6:58 PM
- - easternpiro1   THANK YOU yarik! i wasnt trying to doubt the ...   May 8, 2011 - 9:38 PM
- - yarik83   Well financially speaking it is hard not to have f...   May 8, 2011 - 10:02 PM
- - easternpiro1   Gold?!? Really?! I knew about the lithium ...   May 9, 2011 - 12:49 AM
- - Supersprynt   QUOTE (easternpiro1 @ May 8, 2011 - 4...   May 9, 2011 - 8:34 AM
- - Supersprynt   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ May 8, 2011 - 4...   May 9, 2011 - 8:37 AM
- - easternpiro1   QUOTE (Supersprynt @ May 9, 2011 - 8...   May 11, 2011 - 2:42 AM
- - yarik83   Good thing I almost always make backups of everyth...   May 11, 2011 - 6:48 AM
- - yarik83   Super, National Institute of Science and Technol...   May 11, 2011 - 7:31 AM


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