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post Apr 28, 2011 - 4:40 PM
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hey, not sure if this is the right place to post this and sorry if its not, but here goes.

I live in RI and am trying to do an engine swap and cant decide between the Beams, GT4 or a 4age silver or black top.
i know theres a couple of people in this forum that live in RI and have awesome cars but i havent been able to get their attention or help so lets see if you guys can.
i have a 97 ST limited and so far ive gather that i need new mounts, tranny, possibly exhaust, trans axles, and complete engine for a beams or GT4 swap
and ill need an engine if i plan to go with the 4age or am i missing something else also.

as far as the wiring goes for the beams engine is it a plug n play if i get a celica st202 front clip? or am i better off getting parts seperately

as my project progresses i will continue to post updates, hopefully batman and hurley will help me out.

ill also post pics later

thanks for help in advance




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post May 22, 2011 - 9:51 AM
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QUOTE (Batman722 @ May 17, 2011 - 11:38 AM) *
ok, some info.
I would suggest you get a GT (s54) tranny and you need all the GT mounts. The mounts in your clip are for a different series tranny, just put them aside for now. You'll also need the GT axles.

You need a clutch, each tranny uses a different set up.



QUOTE (LimitedGT4 @ May 22, 2011 - 12:44 AM) *
so for the gt tranny whats the custom piece i need? And where/how can i get it



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post May 22, 2011 - 12:25 PM
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QUOTE (Batman722 @ May 22, 2011 - 9:51 AM) *
QUOTE (Batman722 @ May 17, 2011 - 11:38 AM) *
ok, some info.
I would suggest you get a GT (s54) tranny and you need all the GT mounts. The mounts in your clip are for a different series tranny, just put them aside for now. You'll also need the GT axles.

You need a clutch, each tranny uses a different set up.



QUOTE (LimitedGT4 @ May 22, 2011 - 12:44 AM) *
so for the gt tranny whats the custom piece i need? And where/how can i get it




thanks, my question was more related to this

"5sfe disk (or a custom made 3sgte disk, with the splines for the 5sfe tranny)"


ive read some places say you need a custom part related to the transmition fabricated
and others dont say that you need anything fabricated is this really necessary?
or is it just a good clutch and all parts can be found within the 2 trannys

i know about the mounts, cables, axles, clutch, and tranny

E-153 mr2 turbo tranny = GT shifter cables
3sgte disk
3sgte pressure plate
3sgte flywheel
Alltrac outer half shafts, m2 inner shafts.

GT tranny or 3SGE = GT shifter cables
5sfe/3sge disk (or a custom made 3sgte disk, with the splines for the 5sfe tranny) ??????? IS THIS REALLY NECESSARY???????
5sfe/3sge throwout bearing
5sfe/3sge alignment tool
3sgte pressure plate
3sgte flywheel
5sfe Axels

1mzfe Solara Tranny = ST205 Cables (GT4)
V6 Camry tranny
1mzfe disk
1mzfe throwout bearing
1mzfe alignment tool
3sgte pressure plate
3sgte flywheel
Not sure about the axels needed to run this tranny ?????? ANYONE ANY IDEA ???????[color="#FF0000"][/color]

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post May 22, 2011 - 9:28 PM
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thanks, my question was more related to this

"5sfe disk (or a custom made 3sgte disk, with the splines for the 5sfe tranny)"


ive read some places say you need a custom part related to the transmition fabricated
and others dont say that you need anything fabricated is this really necessary?
yes and no, an axle spacer because the pass side axle is too short for some people
or is it just a good clutch and all parts can be found within the 2 trannys
you need to buy a new clutch. If you use the GT tranny (s54) then you need or a custom made 3sgte disk, with the splines for the 5sfe tranny
i know about the mounts, cables, axles, clutch, and tranny

E-153 mr2 turbo tranny = st205 cables and fyi V6 Camry/Solara tranny = e153 also.
3sgte disk
3sgte tob
3sgte alignment tool
3sgte pressure plate
3sgte flywheel
just buy an MR2 turbo clutch
Alltrac outer half shafts, m2 inner shafts.

GT tranny = GT shifter cables
a custom made 3sgte disk, with the splines for the 5sfe tranny ??????? IS THIS REALLY NECESSARY???????
?????????? why in the world would you think it wouldn't be nessessary ??????
5sfe throwout bearing
5sfe alignment tool
3sgte pressure plate
3sgte flywheel
5sfe Axels

There is a lot that goes along with swapping, lots of parts to buy, lots of research to do.


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Posts in this topic
- LimitedGT4   Rhode Island Project Celica   Apr 28, 2011 - 4:40 PM
- - Batman722   sorry I haven't responded yet, been a little b...   Apr 28, 2011 - 9:29 PM
- - LimitedGT4   well goals are different, im trying to decide whic...   Apr 29, 2011 - 7:16 PM
- - LimitedGT4   pics are up, aslo got a front clip from a GT4 whi...   May 3, 2011 - 5:19 PM
- - smkr3w   cant wait to see upcoming progress, good luck bt...   May 7, 2011 - 5:26 PM
|- - LimitedGT4   QUOTE (smkr3w @ May 7, 2011 - 5:26 P...   May 7, 2011 - 6:59 PM
- - S8S8   That's awesome that the package came with so m...   May 8, 2011 - 1:55 AM
|- - LimitedGT4   QUOTE (S8S8 @ May 8, 2011 - 1:55 AM)...   May 8, 2011 - 2:30 PM
- - opie_7afe   nice clip your getting there man comming with alot...   May 10, 2011 - 3:00 AM
|- - LimitedGT4   QUOTE (opie_7afe @ May 10, 2011 - 4...   May 10, 2011 - 4:15 PM
- - mkernz22   The AWD isn't that hard if you can weld This ...   May 10, 2011 - 8:29 AM
- - qtfsniper   Hey Dude, get a truck and grab that clip already...   May 12, 2011 - 8:25 PM
- - LimitedGT4   ok guys so i got my front clip, am all excited, no...   May 13, 2011 - 9:41 PM
- - Batman722   got a tranny ?   May 13, 2011 - 10:18 PM
|- - LimitedGT4   QUOTE (Batman722 @ May 13, 2011 - 10...   May 13, 2011 - 10:56 PM
- - LimitedGT4   so i just finished the GT4 front end conversion, n...   May 14, 2011 - 3:41 PM
- - LimitedGT4   Still looking for a celica mechanic in the RI/MA a...   May 16, 2011 - 11:33 AM
- - LimitedGT4   Bump Comon guys dont make me vo to a proshop If...   May 17, 2011 - 9:29 AM
- - Batman722   ok, some info. converting the awd tranny to just f...   May 17, 2011 - 10:38 AM
|- - LimitedGT4   QUOTE (Batman722 @ May 17, 2011 - 10...   May 17, 2011 - 11:27 AM
- - Ted95   get the s54 tranny (GT tranny) because it will be ...   May 17, 2011 - 8:58 PM
|- - LimitedGT4   QUOTE (Ted95 @ May 17, 2011 - 9:58 P...   May 17, 2011 - 10:56 PM
- - LimitedGT4   Anyone in the new england area that has done a 3s...   May 18, 2011 - 11:39 AM
- - Culpable04   1- you need to get your glasses on, and get some r...   May 18, 2011 - 1:32 PM
|- - LimitedGT4   QUOTE (Culpable04 @ May 18, 2011 - 1...   May 18, 2011 - 3:58 PM
- - Ted95   oh well a clip changes alot of things lol. i didnt...   May 19, 2011 - 12:06 AM
- - LimitedGT4   So i like the look of my rims but theyre not pract...   May 19, 2011 - 11:32 PM
- - LimitedGT4   so while am waiting for the right person to perfor...   May 21, 2011 - 5:15 PM
- - mkernz22   that looks awesome man! i sent you a pm as wel...   May 21, 2011 - 5:42 PM
|- - LimitedGT4   QUOTE (mkernz22 @ May 21, 2011 - 5:4...   May 21, 2011 - 5:52 PM
- - Batman722   after you swap how are going to get the car inspec...   May 21, 2011 - 9:52 PM
|- - LimitedGT4   QUOTE (Batman722 @ May 21, 2011 - 10...   May 21, 2011 - 11:34 PM
- - Batman722   most people swap with a 94-95. The 96+ are obd2 an...   May 21, 2011 - 11:39 PM
|- - LimitedGT4   QUOTE (Batman722 @ May 21, 2011 - 11...   May 21, 2011 - 11:44 PM
- - Batman722   QUOTE (Batman722 @ May 17, 2011 - 11...   May 22, 2011 - 9:51 AM
|- - Ted95   QUOTE (Batman722 @ May 22, 2011 - 10...   May 22, 2011 - 10:24 AM
|- - LimitedGT4   QUOTE (Batman722 @ May 22, 2011 - 9...   May 22, 2011 - 12:25 PM
|- - Batman722   QUOTE thanks, my question was more related to this...   May 22, 2011 - 9:28 PM
|- - LimitedGT4   is there anyone that makes the "custom made 3...   May 22, 2011 - 9:40 PM
- - LimitedGT4   .   May 22, 2011 - 1:57 PM
- - Batman722   here's some info about the clutch and some inf...   May 23, 2011 - 9:35 AM
|- - LimitedGT4   QUOTE (Batman722 @ May 23, 2011 - 9...   May 23, 2011 - 9:02 PM
- - Ted95   well since you did the research then you already k...   May 23, 2011 - 10:25 AM
|- - LimitedGT4   QUOTE (Ted95 @ May 23, 2011 - 10:25 ...   May 23, 2011 - 10:19 PM
- - Fate   For the most part, any clutch company will make yo...   May 23, 2011 - 10:39 AM
|- - LimitedGT4   QUOTE (Fate @ May 23, 2011 - 10:39 A...   May 23, 2011 - 10:26 PM
- - LimitedGT4   ok guys, last topic on the tranny this is whats go...   May 24, 2011 - 6:09 PM
- - Ted95   ultimately.. the E153 is the way to go if you can ...   May 24, 2011 - 11:11 PM
|- - LimitedGT4   QUOTE (Ted95 @ May 24, 2011 - 11:11 ...   May 24, 2011 - 11:14 PM
|- - Ted95   QUOTE (LimitedGT4 @ May 25, 2011 - 12...   May 24, 2011 - 11:25 PM
|- - LimitedGT4   QUOTE (Ted95 @ May 25, 2011 - 12:25 ...   May 24, 2011 - 11:29 PM
- - Batman722   no you cannot use the st205 axles, they are comple...   May 25, 2011 - 12:08 AM
- - LimitedGT4   yea i figured that everythin is worth givin a try ...   May 25, 2011 - 12:45 AM
- - mkernz22   Nothing can be used out of the AWD tranny if you a...   May 25, 2011 - 9:03 AM
|- - LimitedGT4   QUOTE (mkernz22 @ May 25, 2011 - 9:0...   May 25, 2011 - 9:17 AM
- - Fate   for the e153, you do in fact use the rear mount of...   May 25, 2011 - 11:04 AM
- - LimitedGT4   How good does the stock mr2 turbo xlutch hold? I ...   May 26, 2011 - 11:39 AM
|- - Ted95   QUOTE (LimitedGT4 @ May 26, 2011 - 12...   May 26, 2011 - 3:26 PM
|- - LimitedGT4   QUOTE (Ted95 @ May 26, 2011 - 4:26 P...   May 26, 2011 - 4:31 PM
- - Batman722   I'm out.   May 26, 2011 - 8:59 PM
- - Ted95   good luck.   May 26, 2011 - 10:52 PM
- - mkernz22   same man, and my clutch went. can't help you o...   May 26, 2011 - 11:16 PM
- - Culpable04   QUOTE (LimitedGT4 @ May 26, 2011 - 5...   May 27, 2011 - 1:13 AM
|- - LimitedGT4   thanks man this is all i asked now i know.   May 27, 2011 - 6:34 AM
- - Culpable04   BTW, I sent you a PM with something you are lookin...   May 27, 2011 - 1:17 AM
- - LimitedGT4   woooooo, the MEET at CSP wat GREAT if you missed i...   Jun 11, 2011 - 6:49 PM
- - Ted95   it was def a good time bro, and im really likein t...   Jun 11, 2011 - 7:06 PM
- - LimitedGT4   something i did to my lights sorry mike had to do...   Jun 13, 2011 - 7:25 PM
- - mkernz22   Mine look the same! I did all 4 My low beams ...   Jun 13, 2011 - 7:52 PM
- - Ted95   wow thats some nice work man, makes me think a lil   Jun 13, 2011 - 11:30 PM
- - LimitedGT4   sooo today i pulled my ECU and this is what i foun...   Jun 17, 2011 - 8:37 PM
- - mkernz22   aren't you f*cking lucky!!!   Jun 17, 2011 - 8:45 PM
- - LimitedGT4   dude if i ever decide to build another celica ITS ...   Jun 17, 2011 - 8:49 PM
- - Ted95   thats sickk bro good for you man!   Jun 18, 2011 - 12:27 AM
- - NYp8tBaller07   Sweet treasure you found there Arrrrr!   Jun 18, 2011 - 10:40 AM
- - presure2   wow. what a thread. now, i must admit, i havent lo...   Jun 19, 2011 - 9:58 AM
|- - LimitedGT4   QUOTE (presure2 @ Jun 19, 2011 - 10...   Jun 21, 2011 - 11:34 PM
- - RabidTRD   QUOTE (LimitedGT4 @ Jun 13, 2011 - 8...   Jun 20, 2011 - 12:29 AM
|- - LimitedGT4   QUOTE (RabidTRD @ Jun 20, 2011 - 12...   Jun 20, 2011 - 10:02 AM
- - RabidTRD   The sudden heat doesn't crack the lens? That...   Jun 21, 2011 - 3:06 PM
|- - LimitedGT4   QUOTE (RabidTRD @ Jun 21, 2011 - 3:0...   Jun 21, 2011 - 4:10 PM
- - mkernz22   No it won't, mine were completely fine. You ju...   Jun 21, 2011 - 5:01 PM
- - RabidTRD   I'll start off with an extra that I have as we...   Jun 21, 2011 - 9:42 PM
- - qtfsniper   Went and saw the car today. Awesome progress.   Jun 26, 2011 - 7:55 PM
- - LimitedGT4   Small update broke the pass axle need another one ...   Jul 1, 2011 - 9:27 PM
- - mkernz22   What tranny are you using? If it's the s54, ju...   Jul 3, 2011 - 5:56 PM
|- - LimitedGT4   QUOTE (mkernz22 @ Jul 3, 2011 - 6:56...   Jul 3, 2011 - 7:03 PM
- - LimitedGT4   So my axles jus keep poppin out Used a spacer Long...   Jul 9, 2011 - 8:12 PM
|- - Needles   QUOTE (LimitedGT4 @ Jul 9, 2011 - 9...   Jul 10, 2011 - 8:17 AM
- - Batman722   is the snap ring on ? that's the only thing h...   Jul 9, 2011 - 9:58 PM
- - LimitedGT4   Dnt think any of the 2 passanger stubs i have got ...   Jul 9, 2011 - 10:07 PM
- - mkernz22   Wait so you need the carrier bracket for the axle?...   Jul 10, 2011 - 2:30 AM
- - Batman722   you need the axle carrier from the turbo MR2. Th...   Jul 10, 2011 - 9:51 AM
- - LimitedGT4   Lol am tryna get one wth no luck guess ill have to...   Jul 10, 2011 - 9:56 AM
- - Needles   whitout the carrier u can move the axle a little b...   Jul 10, 2011 - 10:25 AM
- - LimitedGT4   Yea i know i had a carrier it jus ended up being t...   Jul 10, 2011 - 10:54 AM
- - LimitedGT4   SO my axle stubs look like this no snapring on the...   Jul 10, 2011 - 12:43 PM
- - qtfsniper   I couldn't remember if I had a carrier or not....   Jul 10, 2011 - 1:16 PM
- - LimitedGT4   dont remember the driver side but passanger side i...   Jul 10, 2011 - 1:23 PM
- - qtfsniper   just waiting for a reply from Dan. He's in wor...   Jul 10, 2011 - 1:28 PM
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