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post Jan 2, 2007 - 12:48 PM
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Hi,

I notice that most members' cars have a cone filter fitted.

I picked up an unbranded burgandy red cone filter for a couple of pounds at my local scrappy. It looks brand new. Considering using it on my Celica, but does it really make a difference over the stock Toyota panel filter? Perhaps I should look at a K&N panel filter to go in the stock air filter box?

Also, being in the UK and as my Celica is my daily drive, the engine bay gets quite damp, salty and grubby. How do cone filters cope with water and dirt build-up? Should I be looking to box the cone filter in a similar way to the stock air filter box?

Finally, where is a good place to fit a mass air flow sensor with the stock setup and with the cone filter fitted?


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post Jun 17, 2011 - 11:17 PM
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Back when my ST205 was stock and I had major boost creep, given the same conditions (ie, back to back run, same gear, same revs, same stretch of road),

first of all during the day

running a K&N drop in panel filter in the stock air box boosted to 1.1bar, K&N pod filter on a 3" aluminum intake made roughly the same, but took a few extra hundred rpm to get there (lag)

now at night, the stock air box with K&N drop in panel filter still saw the same 1.1bar but the K&N pod filter on the 3" aluminum intake saw regular spikes of 1.2bar a couple hundred rpm earlier (more response)

so my rant, factory airbox has a CFM limit below what the 3sgte engine is capable of ingesting, but the performance you get from a pod filter really depends on getting cold air to it

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Posts in this topic
- BloodyStupidDavey   cone filter - does it really make a difference?   Jan 2, 2007 - 12:48 PM
- - tin_foil   Well, yes cone filters make a difference. Simply b...   Jan 2, 2007 - 1:02 PM
|- - hashmaster52   QUOTE(tin_foil @ Jan 2, 2007 - 1:02 ...   Jan 2, 2007 - 9:47 PM
- - brianforster   just do it, it looks good   Jan 2, 2007 - 1:21 PM
- - hitcachi   everybody wants teh blingz in the engine too!   Jan 2, 2007 - 1:43 PM
- - neo_in_aus   Most people use cone filters for the 'bling...   Jan 2, 2007 - 2:17 PM
|- - BloodyStupidDavey   Thanks for all the replies. QUOTE(neo_in_aus ...   Jan 2, 2007 - 5:28 PM
|- - uberschall   QUOTE(BloodyStupidDavey @ Jan 2, 2007 - ...   Jan 2, 2007 - 5:46 PM
|- - manphibian   QUOTE(BloodyStupidDavey @ Jan 2, 2007 - ...   Jan 2, 2007 - 5:47 PM
- - Kwanza26   Open element filters, cone, paper, foam, whatever ...   Jan 2, 2007 - 8:54 PM
|- - manphibian   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Jan 2, 2007 - 8:54 ...   Jan 3, 2007 - 3:10 AM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(manphibian @ Jan 3, 2007 - 8:1...   Jan 5, 2007 - 10:19 AM
|- - tin_foil   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Jan 5, 2007 - 10:19...   Jan 6, 2007 - 3:46 AM
|- - GTS13   QUOTE(tin_foil @ Jan 6, 2007 - 3:46 ...   Jan 12, 2007 - 2:47 PM
- - Jaws4God   yeah i mainly did mine for looks.. but I do like t...   Jan 4, 2007 - 12:55 AM
- - ExSane   THIS LINK WILL GIVE YOU ALL YOUR ANSWERS. http://...   Jan 4, 2007 - 1:11 AM
- - nate95   go with out the filter!! lol. not smart, b...   Jan 12, 2007 - 2:53 PM
- - Rockford   I would prefer.. the K&N OEM replacement...   Jan 12, 2007 - 6:39 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   back from the dead, I just hate creating new threa...   Jun 15, 2011 - 3:51 PM
- - trdproven   TRD is within your budget but it is an oiled versi...   Jun 16, 2011 - 1:44 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   TRD and K&N are Oiled drop in filters. OEM, Ap...   Jun 16, 2011 - 2:58 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   TRD is around $65 and my budget is $45.   Jun 16, 2011 - 3:14 AM
|- - trdproven   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Jun 16, 2011 - 6...   Jun 18, 2011 - 8:43 PM
- - Cuts_the_Pilot   Ignoring the fact that a pod filter (as they are c...   Jun 16, 2011 - 5:29 AM
- - delusionz   Back when my ST205 was stock and I had major boost...   Jun 17, 2011 - 11:17 PM
- - Neon90424   Sard SPORTS EX 99$ for the rest of your life   Jun 18, 2011 - 9:17 PM
|- - BonzaiCelica   QUOTE (Neon90424 @ Jun 18, 2011 - 9...   Jun 19, 2011 - 8:24 AM
|- - Neon90424   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Jun 19, 2011 - 9...   Jun 19, 2011 - 1:49 PM
- - NYp8tBaller07   ever look at trueflow foam air filters?   Jun 19, 2011 - 10:47 AM
- - hatchy_gt-s   AEM makes a dry flow drop in filter for $30~ ...   Jun 19, 2011 - 11:22 AM


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