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post Jul 22, 2011 - 3:47 PM
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so ive finally figured out what im gonna do, ive been listening to everyone and since my celica is my dd I'm going to do light modifications to it along with cams. Only thing is i know nothing about which cams to get. i know the 246 from webcams doesnt require any valve spring mods but anything below that it does, im not sure what i should use, any suggestions?


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post Jul 25, 2011 - 6:54 PM
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No, but that's just my opinion, and you know what they say about opinions.
If my only option was to build an n/a 5sfe, I'd want to get that motor breathing better up top, the 294 grind is a very mild setup, iirc mrturrari over on mr2oc has tried the 101 grind, and at least one other.
I'd definelty look at getting better springs and retainers, and whatever other mods so I could raise the red line to at least 7500rpm, and do whatever intake and exhaust mods were required to get the motor to make power up to there. (oversized valves, custom intake manifold, custom header...blah blah..and end up with a setup that would behave something like a beams motor, but without the vvti.
But that's just me, after running the boosted 5sfe for so long, and now with the 3rd gen, and driving steff and d's beams, I'm biased.
The money it would take to build a 5sfe that would be worth it for me is not the same as you, or the next guy.
That said, cams definitely are one of the best 5sfe mods out there imo, unless your planning on swapping down the road. (to me that's just money that you can put toward a swap.)
Hell, if you break it down, and do the install properly, your probably almost 1/2 way or more to a beams swap.
Think about it like this.
Say you get cams from webcams.
Your gonna spend 500+ on the cams, but then you gotta get the right sized shims. At 7$ each, you may get luck and only need a few, but be prepared to buy as many as 10 or more.
Then, you gotta pull the timing belt to do the cams, might as well replace that while you hand it apart..water pump, cam seal, oil pump seal all fall into the same category.
Sure, you can do it without doing any of that stuff, but always best to at least inspect and replace as needed.
Ya also have the valve cover off as well, so that's a good time to replace it as well, and bell, distributor comes out as well, so at least check the oring on it..
It can get close to or over 1k$..and that's assuming you can do it all yourself and have all the tools to get it done..
Just food for thought.


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Posts in this topic
- freddy121389   finally figured out what im gonna do   Jul 22, 2011 - 3:47 PM
- - freddy121389   has anyone done cams in their 5sfe on a n/a build,...   Jul 23, 2011 - 1:06 AM
- - Malhar95   Same question...in my case, I have stock cams...ne...   Jul 23, 2011 - 1:28 AM
- - njccmd2002   for 500 bucks you gain maybe 10 to 15 hp... i thi...   Jul 23, 2011 - 7:48 AM
- - PolliS_5S-FE   Do you know how significant the hp increase would ...   Jul 24, 2011 - 1:55 AM
- - 6G96GT   I think you get more then that for HP. I've se...   Jul 24, 2011 - 9:00 AM
- - presure2   freddy, if you had used the search function, you...   Jul 24, 2011 - 2:22 PM
- - freddy121389   awesome thanks manny, im pretty sure this is the r...   Jul 25, 2011 - 1:11 AM
- - presure2   No, but that's just my opinion, and you know w...   Jul 25, 2011 - 6:54 PM
- - freddy121389   That is true and I've definitely considered th...   Jul 25, 2011 - 10:08 PM
- - njccmd2002   ha i was almost in the nail. i remembered someone ...   Jul 25, 2011 - 10:22 PM
- - freddy121389   i appreciate the help guys i really do but im pret...   Jul 26, 2011 - 1:54 AM
|- - ST205WRC   QUOTE (freddy121389 @ Jul 26, 2011 - 2...   Jul 28, 2011 - 7:19 AM
- - PolliS_5S-FE   sounds pricey . u wanna keep it auto? why not cha...   Jul 28, 2011 - 6:19 AM
|- - freddy121389   QUOTE (PolliS_5S-FE @ Jul 28, 2011 ...   Jul 28, 2011 - 11:14 AM
- - presure2   your gonna be dissapointed with the cams in an aut...   Jul 30, 2011 - 7:46 AM
|- - freddy121389   QUOTE (presure2 @ Jul 30, 2011 - 7:4...   Jul 30, 2011 - 11:57 AM
- - PolliS_5S-FE   145whp? i think thats generous :\   Jul 30, 2011 - 4:32 PM
|- - freddy121389   QUOTE (PolliS_5S-FE @ Jul 30, 2011 ...   Jul 31, 2011 - 12:13 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (freddy121389 @ Jul 31, 2011 - 1...   Jul 31, 2011 - 7:41 AM
- - PolliS_5S-FE   niiiiiiiiiiiice   Jul 31, 2011 - 4:41 AM
- - freddy121389   I hate when you guys are right, lol I wanted to ma...   Jul 31, 2011 - 12:20 PM
- - PolliS_5S-FE   It is a sad fact theres not alot you can do with t...   Jul 31, 2011 - 3:17 PM
- - 6G96GT   The only prob with a header and exhaust is you...   Aug 1, 2011 - 12:04 AM
- - PolliS_5S-FE   x2 for an auto   Aug 1, 2011 - 4:03 AM


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