Jul 21, 2011 - 9:05 PM
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performance in all categories has decreased.
What have you guys done to remedy this problem? I can definitely tell I need lowered now more than ever because of the hightened center of gravity. My tires currently are 215/50/17....hopefully some 215/45s will give me a bit more of my power back. blah. |
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Jul 25, 2011 - 11:30 PM
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1lbs of rotation mass(wheels) = 10 pounds dead weight so if u go fron 15lbs rims to 20 lbs rims its like adding 200lbs of sand bags to your car.. or the average weight of one adult That's not 100% true. It depends on where the weight is added from the center axis. You can take wheel A and put a 2lb weight near the center axis and wheel B with 1lb on the outside edge and wheel A will still accelerate faster than wheel B even though it has more weight. Yeah both will accelerate slower than a wheel with no added weight but it won't be like adding 10lbs to every 1lb. At most maybe 2-3lb to 1 |
Jul 29, 2011 - 1:38 AM
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1lbs of rotation mass(wheels) = 10 pounds dead weight so if u go fron 15lbs rims to 20 lbs rims its like adding 200lbs of sand bags to your car.. or the average weight of one adult That's not 100% true. It depends on where the weight is added from the center axis. You can take wheel A and put a 2lb weight near the center axis and wheel B with 1lb on the outside edge and wheel A will still accelerate faster than wheel B even though it has more weight. Yeah both will accelerate slower than a wheel with no added weight but it won't be like adding 10lbs to every 1lb. At most maybe 2-3lb to 1 However, for our purposes the additional mass is almost always at the outer edge. The wheel will have longer spokes, but the majority of the additional metal will be in the barrel, to which the tire mounts. The wider and stiffer tire (more rubber and a denser formulation) comes with a higher weight as well, and this is even further out towards the edge of the rotational mass than the wheel's added weight. Plus-sizing isn't just a matter of putting on heavier wheel/tire combinations. It's also about moving the weight farther out from the centre of the rotating mass. It's a double-whammy: higher weight, higher leverage. It's the inverse of the same principles which make longer wrenches capable of multiplying the same force. Foot-pounds -- plus sizing increases both sides of that equation. This post has been edited by Galcobar: Jul 29, 2011 - 1:41 AM |
Mycurse180 Depressed after putting 17s on Jul 21, 2011 - 9:05 PM
Mycurse180 Also like to add that it made my steering feel a l... Jul 21, 2011 - 9:16 PM
SwissFerdi I went from 14" steelies to 17" wheels, ... Jul 21, 2011 - 9:22 PM
RabidTRD I'd say a smaller tread patch... If you think ... Jul 21, 2011 - 11:12 PM
azian_advanced changing to a 45 won't make much of a differen... Jul 22, 2011 - 12:31 AM
BonzaiCelica hmm why did you get 215/50R17 in the first place? ... Jul 22, 2011 - 3:21 AM
whatthe Go back to stock rims, and wrap street semis and r... Jul 22, 2011 - 3:26 AM
PhoenixTech When I put 17s on my Celica I didn't notice a ... Jul 22, 2011 - 8:23 AM
str8thugginit4ya QUOTE (PhoenixTech @ Jul 22, 2011 - 8... Jul 22, 2011 - 5:01 PM
bmj67 From what I've read the 17" matrix wheels... Jul 22, 2011 - 6:56 PM
str8thugginit4ya QUOTE (bmj67 @ Jul 22, 2011 - 6:56 P... Jul 22, 2011 - 7:10 PM
Mycurse180 QUOTE (bmj67 @ Jul 22, 2011 - 6:56 P... Jul 23, 2011 - 10:55 AM
stephen_lee 17 lbs? really? the stock 15" GT alloys? Jul 24, 2011 - 2:49 PM
bmj67 the gt wheels are 15" Jul 25, 2011 - 12:15 AM
stephen_lee oops. youre right. but they feel lighter to me...
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cjh4l22 yea, how heavy are the 17's you put on it? min... Jul 25, 2011 - 12:49 PM
Rob_A Splash out on some volks
My 18" Ce28N weigh... Jul 25, 2011 - 2:30 PM
Needles QUOTE (Rob_A @ Jul 25, 2011 - 3:30 P... Aug 29, 2011 - 9:09 AM
Neon90424 regular OZ wheels are about 8 kgs and cast wheels ... Jul 25, 2011 - 2:36 PM
Mycurse180 Well I'm moving tire size down to 215/45/17 Jul 25, 2011 - 5:52 PM
Keiri Be prepared to continue being disappointed because... Jul 25, 2011 - 6:41 PM
bmj67 I have the 17" tC wheels and 225/45r17 genera... Jul 25, 2011 - 8:06 PM
Keiri QUOTE (bmj67 @ Jul 25, 2011 - 9:06 P... Jul 25, 2011 - 8:13 PM
bmj67 I haven't driven in the wet yet just got them ... Jul 25, 2011 - 8:23 PM
stephen_lee 1lbs of rotation mass(wheels) = 10 pounds dead wei... Jul 25, 2011 - 9:12 PM
Mycurse180 QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Jul 25, 2011 - 10... Jul 27, 2011 - 3:45 PM
Keiri QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Jul 25, 2011 - 10... Jul 25, 2011 - 9:37 PM
stephen_lee true it does take more energy to spin weight furth... Jul 26, 2011 - 4:21 PM
delusionz ive had 14" steelies (not on the gt4 obviousl... Jul 29, 2011 - 10:10 PM
ricochet1490 I'm also rolling 215-40-17's on mine. I d... Aug 28, 2011 - 9:14 PM![]() ![]() |
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