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post Aug 22, 2011 - 9:50 AM
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This is just out of curiosity and is thing that has been lingering in the back of my mind for a while. I know its possible but how and what needs to be done?? I've read so many forums on other sites about doing this but they all can't seem to give a down to earth answer on what actually is done to the car. In other words they seem to give completely different explanations or basic instructions from one another. Here in Australia GT4s are on the pricey side and a rare find.. So thought in the coming years a AWD conversion might an cheaper and beta (not necessary Easier) solution.

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post Aug 24, 2011 - 6:59 PM
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Of course we all know the 205 wasnt cheap, they actually lost 20k or something on each car sold, but you knew this already.

Yes im sure they built (mass produced) a car that they designed initially to win the WRC using rear end metalwork made from aluminium foil and other assorted soft metal.



Its ok delusions, they just jelly because their car will always be a poverty pack with some backyard mechanics.

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post Aug 24, 2011 - 7:35 PM
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QUOTE (Cuts_the_Pilot @ Aug 24, 2011 - 7:59 PM) *
Of course we all know the 205 wasnt cheap, they actually lost 20k or something on each car sold, but you knew this already.

Yes im sure they built (mass produced) a car that they designed initially to win the WRC using rear end metalwork made from aluminium foil and other assorted soft metal.



Its ok delusions, they just jelly because their car will always be a poverty pack with some backyard mechanics.



Why would I be jealous? I have a car that puts out double the HP yours does and weighs less. Also have a "Rallye" car that I actually rally race, not just post the sticker on the interweb to act cool.

Turning into a pissing match, but really it's the people that have never done anything with cars that keep spouting off BS about stuff they really have no clue about.


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post Aug 24, 2011 - 9:03 PM
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QUOTE (czwalga @ Aug 24, 2011 - 8:35 PM) *
QUOTE (Cuts_the_Pilot @ Aug 24, 2011 - 7:59 PM) *
Of course we all know the 205 wasnt cheap, they actually lost 20k or something on each car sold, but you knew this already.

Yes im sure they built (mass produced) a car that they designed initially to win the WRC using rear end metalwork made from aluminium foil and other assorted soft metal.



Its ok delusions, they just jelly because their car will always be a poverty pack with some backyard mechanics.



Why would I be jealous? I have a car that puts out double the HP yours does and weighs less. Also have a "Rallye" car that I actually rally race, not just post the sticker on the interweb to act cool.

Turning into a pissing match, but really it's the people that have never done anything with cars that keep spouting off BS about stuff they really have no clue about.


I would suggest not talking sh!t about cuts car because he has done a lot to it and it's a true group A gt4, unlike your car it will always be a wannabe and I'm not jacking on you, what you did not many try to and I commend you on that but before you go ripping on someone take the time to see what they have accomplished.

Cuts: you should also lay off of czwalga because it is posible to make a better awd then what originally came on the gt4's, I guaranty that your gt4 couldn't handle the abuse of the true gt4 they used for rally because they put massive amounts of supports and all new equipment so that it could handle off road abuse. Dont forget you still have super struts and they converted them to Mcpherson for racing!

So can we all just chill the F**K out, you're killing my buzzz thumbsup.gif

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post Aug 25, 2011 - 6:22 AM
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QUOTE (hatchy_gt-s @ Aug 24, 2011 - 9:03 PM) *
QUOTE (czwalga @ Aug 24, 2011 - 8:35 PM) *
QUOTE (Cuts_the_Pilot @ Aug 24, 2011 - 7:59 PM) *
Of course we all know the 205 wasnt cheap, they actually lost 20k or something on each car sold, but you knew this already.

Yes im sure they built (mass produced) a car that they designed initially to win the WRC using rear end metalwork made from aluminium foil and other assorted soft metal.



Its ok delusions, they just jelly because their car will always be a poverty pack with some backyard mechanics.



Why would I be jealous? I have a car that puts out double the HP yours does and weighs less. Also have a "Rallye" car that I actually rally race, not just post the sticker on the interweb to act cool.

Turning into a pissing match, but really it's the people that have never done anything with cars that keep spouting off BS about stuff they really have no clue about.


I would suggest not talking sh!t about cuts car because he has done a lot to it and it's a true group A gt4, unlike your car it will always be a wannabe and I'm not jacking on you, what you did not many try to and I commend you on that but before you go ripping on someone take the time to see what they have accomplished.

Cuts: you should also lay off of czwalga because it is posible to make a better awd then what originally came on the gt4's, I guaranty that your gt4 couldn't handle the abuse of the true gt4 they used for rally because they put massive amounts of supports and all new equipment so that it could handle off road abuse. Dont forget you still have super struts and they converted them to Mcpherson for racing!

So can we all just chill the F**K out, you're killing my buzzz thumbsup.gif




I personally don't care what he has done to his car because he's wrong. He's done a lot of bolt ons and some engine work... doesn't qualify them to make statements that they did. Thanks for trying to keep the peace though. wink.gif

Also, i'm not sure why he even modified his engine, who's he to think he could do a better job than toyota? biggrin.gif

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post Aug 25, 2011 - 7:34 AM
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So your saying that Toyota built a car that cannot ever be made "true"
QUOTE (czwalga @ Aug 25, 2011 - 5:22 AM) *
Also, i'm not sure why he even modified his engine, who's he to think he could do a better job than toyota? biggrin.gif


zing
However I'm not saying I can do a better job Toyota.

As for the rallying I dont do it for competition I do it for fun, I race it at the drags and around the tracks here for competition.


Back on topic, whats your budget?
I found this one, but its got a fnck load of kms, and therefore a bit overpriced IMO. It is however pretty clean inside and out (true its had a respray)

Carsales, GT-four Group A Rallye

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Posts in this topic
- KaneO   Converting a ZR (ST204) to an AWD?   Aug 22, 2011 - 9:50 AM
- - czwalga   Welding and patience. Unless you do all the work ...   Aug 22, 2011 - 3:21 PM
- - CelicaZR   Welcome General concensus is that its alot of m...   Aug 24, 2011 - 12:10 AM
- - Cuts_the_Pilot   You could spend more then the cost of a 205 and wh...   Aug 24, 2011 - 2:36 AM
|- - czwalga   QUOTE (Cuts_the_Pilot @ Aug 24, 2011 - 2...   Aug 24, 2011 - 7:43 AM
|- - stephen_lee   QUOTE (czwalga @ Aug 24, 2011 - 7:43...   Aug 24, 2011 - 8:11 AM
- - S8S8   First of all, welcome to another Aussie member. ...   Aug 24, 2011 - 6:20 AM
- - jmeyer   ^Winning^   Aug 24, 2011 - 8:08 AM
- - delusionz   good luck having a crash in a cut and welded car, ...   Aug 24, 2011 - 4:07 PM
|- - czwalga   QUOTE (delusionz @ Aug 24, 2011 - 5...   Aug 24, 2011 - 6:53 PM
|- - delusionz   QUOTE (czwalga @ Aug 25, 2011 - 11:5...   Aug 25, 2011 - 9:29 AM
- - Cuts_the_Pilot   Of course we all know the 205 wasnt cheap, they ac...   Aug 24, 2011 - 6:59 PM
|- - czwalga   QUOTE (Cuts_the_Pilot @ Aug 24, 2011 - 7...   Aug 24, 2011 - 7:35 PM
|- - hatchy_gt-s   QUOTE (czwalga @ Aug 24, 2011 - 8:35...   Aug 24, 2011 - 9:03 PM
|- - czwalga   QUOTE (hatchy_gt-s @ Aug 24, 2011 ...   Aug 25, 2011 - 6:22 AM
|- - Cuts_the_Pilot   So your saying that Toyota built a car that cannot...   Aug 25, 2011 - 7:34 AM
- - al94st   Lol, czwalga, I hope you survive a wreck with thos...   Aug 24, 2011 - 8:55 PM
- - Cuts_the_Pilot   No stickers here, they are badges , additionally i...   Aug 24, 2011 - 11:29 PM
|- - czwalga   QUOTE (Cuts_the_Pilot @ Aug 24, 2011 - 1...   Aug 25, 2011 - 6:17 AM
- - KaneO   Thanks for the info and the welcome to the forums ...   Aug 25, 2011 - 12:38 AM
- - jmeyer   First off I would like to congratulate you on owni...   Aug 25, 2011 - 7:45 AM
- - Cuts_the_Pilot   Found this one too, its has number plates so im as...   Aug 25, 2011 - 7:59 AM
- - delusionz   + let me reverse that question on you. have you pe...   Aug 25, 2011 - 9:37 AM
|- - czwalga   QUOTE (delusionz @ Aug 25, 2011 - 10...   Aug 25, 2011 - 12:08 PM
- - Culpable04   when is all this going to stop. some of us need t...   Aug 25, 2011 - 10:13 AM
|- - czwalga   QUOTE (Culpable04 @ Aug 25, 2011 - 11...   Aug 25, 2011 - 11:47 AM
|- - spy00005   QUOTE (Culpable04 @ Aug 25, 2011 - 11...   Aug 25, 2011 - 12:29 PM
- - jmeyer   It was on TV, it must be true!   Aug 25, 2011 - 10:14 AM
- - hatchy_gt-s   So op how are you liking your celica? You should s...   Aug 25, 2011 - 5:02 PM


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