 Pros and cons of a cut and weld type AWD conversion, might need to move to OT, but it does relate to the celica.... |
 Aug 25, 2011 - 6:22 PM
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Now THIS link started what i believed was a VERY good, and also very informative topic on a "cut and weld" type AWD conversion. Although it was a little heated, I think we need to continue this topic as it is very important to someone who is looking to do a cut and weld type conversion, skilled or not.
Now, I do believe cost and ease of mass production was a big factor in Toyota's mind when they sold the production GT4. Also weight is a consideration. So in many areas of the car, Toyota engineers may have designed a weaker than perfect setup to save cost, man/robot hours of production, and weight. Any GOOD fabricator/welder can build a system that will take a SH!T load of abuse without breaking, but an engineers JOB is to make a device thats capable of the same job, but using the least amount of materials, time to build, and over all cost/weight. -------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
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Aug 25, 2011 - 7:34 PM
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Take my info with a grain of salt, i am not an expert but im tearing down a RA24 and also did it on a RA29.
For those who have never seen this, our cars, and most cars in the market are spotwelded mostly and couple of areas that are braced. This allows the chassis to flex to a certain degree. The problem with fabrication, is for the experience person to know to weld right and not excessive. Why is excessive too much? because with time the metal will fatigue and have stress fractures. I know and i saw the cut and paste with two celica chassis done. I believe it was a very good conversion, but not a very good candidate for stress or rallies, why because it will fatigue the metal very quick. Grab a piece of metal and try to bend it several times, 10 at the most, youll suddenly see fatigue.... The best conversion will be to build a subframe that can be adapted to the rear end of the car, as this will probably be the most difficult way, but it will probably last the longest... I never understood this until i saw my strutbar crack.. I was riding my car too hard.... -------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
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stephen_lee Pros and cons of a cut and weld type AWD conversion Aug 25, 2011 - 6:22 PM
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