4runner brakes on gt celicas, big upgrate and not expensive! Options

[diegohiga]

I was doing a reserch and apparently 4runner brakes with 4 pistons (non sport) version fits on a gt front rotors, And the sport version fits gt4 rotors. I think the brakes have to come off from a 95-02 3rd gen 4runners and will bolt on perfectly with no modifications.
Now my question is if they fit proportional valve needs to be modified? Becsuse it will be pusshing 4 pistons instead of 1.
If anyone has more info about this please post it here.

This post has been edited by diegohiga: Sep 25, 2011 - 1:20 PM

[qatar11]

How do you know that you have exhausted your current brake set up and need to go bigger?

[diegohiga]

How do you know that you have exhausted your current brake set up and need to go bigger?

7afe and 5sfe= 1piston brake. 3sgte= 4 piston brake from factory. Im installing a 3s and i dont want a weak 1 piston brake system

[qatar11]

How do you know that you have exhausted your current brake set up and need to go bigger?

7afe and 5sfe= 1piston brake. 3sgte= 4 piston brake from factory. Im installing a 3s and i dont want a weak 1 piston brake system

This is so full of wrong, I don't know where to start....

lets see...

a GT4 has 4 pot aluminum calipers... a car that weighs 1000 lbs more with drastically different rear brakes, weight balance, vehicle dynamic, et all... 10:1 those calipers are either part of the homogilation rules of rally at the time or a very shiny touch to a very expensive car...

This makes perfect sense to swap into your econo box with extra HP

What happens the first time you you slam on your brakes in a turn in the rain and you go ass first into a guard rail because your rear lifted and you lost traction? Or what happens when you try to stop because some jack ass stopped in front of you, and the nose of your car dives under his bumper? What about that master cylinder? Is it the same? What about your rear discs and calipers? Are they going to corrode and seize because they hardly actuate?

No one on this forum wants to have a serious discussion about brakes, no one talks about upgrading to SS brake lines, bleeding the system correctly, pad and rotor combination, intelligent bias adjustment discussion - et all. Now if you want to have the discussion that the single pot calipers are twisting under load and creating uneven pad wear, something I am starting to deal with, then we can have a caliper upgrade discussion. But I'd be willing to bet that the GT calipers would perform better than you expect with the extra HP after some minor massaging and high quality pads and rotors... after all late model ST165s and ST185s also were sold with single pot calipers.

You want to be a baller and drop 4 pots on the front of your car and stop fast in straight line, be my guest. But don't call it a brake upgrade.

This post has been edited by qatar11: Sep 26, 2011 - 10:36 PM

[cjh4l22]

How do you know that you have exhausted your current brake set up and need to go bigger?

7afe and 5sfe= 1piston brake. 3sgte= 4 piston brake from factory. Im installing a 3s and i dont want a weak 1 piston brake system

This is so full of wrong, I don't know where to start....

lets see...

a GT4 has 4 pot aluminum calipers... a car that weighs 1000 lbs more with drastically different rear brakes, weight balance, vehicle dynamic, et all... 10:1 those calipers are either part of the homogilation rules of rally at the time or a very shiny touch to a very expensive car...

This makes perfect sense to swap into your econo box with extra HP

What happens the first time you you slam on your brakes in a turn in the rain and you go ass first into a guard rail because your rear lifted and you lost traction? Or what happens when you try to stop because some jack ass stopped in front of you, and the nose of your car dives under his bumper? What about that master cylinder? Is it the same? What about your rear discs and calipers? Are they going to corrode and seize because they hardly actuate?

No one on this forum wants to have a serious discussion about brakes, no one talks about upgrading to SS brake lines, bleeding the system correctly, pad and rotor combination, intelligent bias adjustment discussion - et all. Now if you want to have the discussion that the single pot calipers are twisting under load and creating uneven pad wear, something I am starting to deal with, then we can have a caliper upgrade discussion. But I'd be willing to bet that the GT calipers would perform better than you expect with the extra HP after some minor massaging and high quality pads and rotors... after all late model ST165s and ST185s also were sold with single pot calipers.

You want to be a baller and drop 4 pots on the front of your car and stop fast in straight line, be my guest. But don't call it a brake upgrade.

Are you serious? why do you think its considered a brake upgrade when cars like STI's, EVO's, Porsche's, Ferrari's, etc... have multi-pot caliper brakes? as far as braking faster, its still to your advantage. its always been considered an advantage to stop sooner, as far as ending up under someones backend... Who cares? better than smashing into it evenly, and if you're in a lowered car its likely you're gonna end up under it anyway! furthermore, front brakes do the majority of your braking anyway, so as far as going ass first into a guard-rail; you've got much bigger problems if the backend of your FWD, Front Engine car, with a ~60/40 front/rear weight ratio... is sliding ass first into a guard rail. your information about seizing brake calipers and master cylinders has no logical reasoning. why wouldn't your current rear brakes have that problem? they don't do the majority of the stopping in a fwd car, or any car, for that matter. most master cylinders have more than enough ability to crush any set of current day rotors and are the same ones used in gt4's and in some (much heavier) toyota camrys, so why wouldn't it work? oh, and late model ST165's and ST185's single pot brakes... did you not notice what they got replaced by? multi-piston brakes. yea, I'd say the manufacturers had a pretty good reason for that IF they've been doing it with everyone of their sports car since 1993. (ie. - supra, gt4, 3000gt, stealth tt, evo, eclipse, corvette, mustang... need i continue?) So yes sir, it IS most definitely a flipping upgrade!!

So, in short... If you prefer taking more time and distance to stop when its necessary... and feel like smashing into someone, then by allllll means sir. enjoy. we will send you a card while you and you're passenger are in the hospital. good day.