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post Sep 25, 2011 - 1:17 PM
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I was doing a reserch and apparently 4runner brakes with 4 pistons (non sport) version fits on a gt front rotors, And the sport version fits gt4 rotors. I think the brakes have to come off from a 95-02 3rd gen 4runners and will bolt on perfectly with no modifications.
Now my question is if they fit proportional valve needs to be modified? Becsuse it will be pusshing 4 pistons instead of 1.
If anyone has more info about this please post it here.

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post Sep 25, 2011 - 2:57 PM
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How do you know that you have exhausted your current brake set up and need to go bigger?




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post Sep 25, 2011 - 3:38 PM
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QUOTE (qatar11 @ Sep 25, 2011 - 3:57 PM) *
How do you know that you have exhausted your current brake set up and need to go bigger?

7afe and 5sfe= 1piston brake. 3sgte= 4 piston brake from factory. Im installing a 3s and i dont want a weak 1 piston brake system


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post Sep 26, 2011 - 10:31 PM
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QUOTE (diegohiga @ Sep 25, 2011 - 4:38 PM) *
QUOTE (qatar11 @ Sep 25, 2011 - 3:57 PM) *
How do you know that you have exhausted your current brake set up and need to go bigger?

7afe and 5sfe= 1piston brake. 3sgte= 4 piston brake from factory. Im installing a 3s and i dont want a weak 1 piston brake system


This is so full of wrong, I don't know where to start....

lets see...

a GT4 has 4 pot aluminum calipers... a car that weighs 1000 lbs more with drastically different rear brakes, weight balance, vehicle dynamic, et all... 10:1 those calipers are either part of the homogilation rules of rally at the time or a very shiny touch to a very expensive car...

This makes perfect sense to swap into your econo box with extra HP

What happens the first time you you slam on your brakes in a turn in the rain and you go ass first into a guard rail because your rear lifted and you lost traction? Or what happens when you try to stop because some jack ass stopped in front of you, and the nose of your car dives under his bumper? What about that master cylinder? Is it the same? What about your rear discs and calipers? Are they going to corrode and seize because they hardly actuate?

No one on this forum wants to have a serious discussion about brakes, no one talks about upgrading to SS brake lines, bleeding the system correctly, pad and rotor combination, intelligent bias adjustment discussion - et all. Now if you want to have the discussion that the single pot calipers are twisting under load and creating uneven pad wear, something I am starting to deal with, then we can have a caliper upgrade discussion. But I'd be willing to bet that the GT calipers would perform better than you expect with the extra HP after some minor massaging and high quality pads and rotors... after all late model ST165s and ST185s also were sold with single pot calipers.

You want to be a baller and drop 4 pots on the front of your car and stop fast in straight line, be my guest. But don't call it a brake upgrade.

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post Sep 27, 2011 - 1:11 AM
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QUOTE (qatar11 @ Sep 26, 2011 - 11:31 PM) *
QUOTE (diegohiga @ Sep 25, 2011 - 4:38 PM) *
QUOTE (qatar11 @ Sep 25, 2011 - 3:57 PM) *
How do you know that you have exhausted your current brake set up and need to go bigger?

7afe and 5sfe= 1piston brake. 3sgte= 4 piston brake from factory. Im installing a 3s and i dont want a weak 1 piston brake system


This is so full of wrong, I don't know where to start....

lets see...

a GT4 has 4 pot aluminum calipers... a car that weighs 1000 lbs more with drastically different rear brakes, weight balance, vehicle dynamic, et all... 10:1 those calipers are either part of the homogilation rules of rally at the time or a very shiny touch to a very expensive car...

This makes perfect sense to swap into your econo box with extra HP

What happens the first time you you slam on your brakes in a turn in the rain and you go ass first into a guard rail because your rear lifted and you lost traction? Or what happens when you try to stop because some jack ass stopped in front of you, and the nose of your car dives under his bumper? What about that master cylinder? Is it the same? What about your rear discs and calipers? Are they going to corrode and seize because they hardly actuate?

No one on this forum wants to have a serious discussion about brakes, no one talks about upgrading to SS brake lines, bleeding the system correctly, pad and rotor combination, intelligent bias adjustment discussion - et all. Now if you want to have the discussion that the single pot calipers are twisting under load and creating uneven pad wear, something I am starting to deal with, then we can have a caliper upgrade discussion. But I'd be willing to bet that the GT calipers would perform better than you expect with the extra HP after some minor massaging and high quality pads and rotors... after all late model ST165s and ST185s also were sold with single pot calipers.

You want to be a baller and drop 4 pots on the front of your car and stop fast in straight line, be my guest. But don't call it a brake upgrade.



Are you serious? why do you think its considered a brake upgrade when cars like STI's, EVO's, Porsche's, Ferrari's, etc... have multi-pot caliper brakes? as far as braking faster, its still to your advantage. its always been considered an advantage to stop sooner, as far as ending up under someones backend... Who cares? better than smashing into it evenly, and if you're in a lowered car its likely you're gonna end up under it anyway! furthermore, front brakes do the majority of your braking anyway, so as far as going ass first into a guard-rail; you've got much bigger problems if the backend of your FWD, Front Engine car, with a ~60/40 front/rear weight ratio... is sliding ass first into a guard rail. your information about seizing brake calipers and master cylinders has no logical reasoning. why wouldn't your current rear brakes have that problem? they don't do the majority of the stopping in a fwd car, or any car, for that matter. most master cylinders have more than enough ability to crush any set of current day rotors and are the same ones used in gt4's and in some (much heavier) toyota camrys, so why wouldn't it work? oh, and late model ST165's and ST185's single pot brakes... did you not notice what they got replaced by? multi-piston brakes. yea, I'd say the manufacturers had a pretty good reason for that IF they've been doing it with everyone of their sports car since 1993. (ie. - supra, gt4, 3000gt, stealth tt, evo, eclipse, corvette, mustang... need i continue?) So yes sir, it IS most definitely a flipping upgrade!!

So, in short... If you prefer taking more time and distance to stop when its necessary... and feel like smashing into someone, then by allllll means sir. enjoy. we will send you a card while you and you're passenger are in the hospital. good day.


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Posts in this topic
- diegohiga   4runner brakes on gt celicas   Sep 25, 2011 - 1:17 PM
- - qatar11   First question to you is, why upgrade to those cal...   Sep 25, 2011 - 2:14 PM
|- - diegohiga   QUOTE (qatar11 @ Sep 25, 2011 - 3:14...   Sep 25, 2011 - 2:26 PM
- - qatar11   How do you know that you have exhausted your curre...   Sep 25, 2011 - 2:57 PM
|- - diegohiga   QUOTE (qatar11 @ Sep 25, 2011 - 3:57...   Sep 25, 2011 - 3:38 PM
|- - BonzaiCelica   QUOTE (diegohiga @ Sep 25, 2011 - 3...   Sep 25, 2011 - 4:12 PM
|- - qatar11   QUOTE (diegohiga @ Sep 25, 2011 - 4...   Sep 26, 2011 - 10:31 PM
|- - diegohiga   QUOTE (qatar11 @ Sep 26, 2011 - 11:3...   Sep 26, 2011 - 11:11 PM
|- - cjh4l22   QUOTE (qatar11 @ Sep 26, 2011 - 11:3...   Sep 27, 2011 - 1:11 AM
- - cjh4l22   bonzai, idk what you're talking about? how cou...   Sep 25, 2011 - 7:44 PM
|- - nics   QUOTE (cjh4l22 @ Sep 25, 2011 - 5:44...   Sep 25, 2011 - 8:10 PM
- - Culpable04   brakes will fit, no questions about that my ques...   Sep 25, 2011 - 9:26 PM
- - cjh4l22   I am more than willing to give it a try, just need...   Sep 26, 2011 - 2:16 AM
- - Culpable04   you are missing the most important part of the dis...   Sep 26, 2011 - 10:29 AM
- - njccmd2002   dude dont fall on the negativity some members have...   Sep 26, 2011 - 10:52 AM
|- - qatar11   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Sep 26, 2011 - 11...   Sep 26, 2011 - 10:47 PM
|- - diegohiga   QUOTE (qatar11 @ Sep 26, 2011 - 11:4...   Sep 26, 2011 - 11:20 PM
|- - njccmd2002   QUOTE (qatar11 @ Sep 26, 2011 - 10:4...   Sep 28, 2011 - 11:01 AM
|- - diegohiga   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Sep 28, 2011 - 12...   Sep 28, 2011 - 11:33 AM
|- - qatar11   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Sep 28, 2011 - 12...   Sep 28, 2011 - 12:18 PM
- - playr158   Didn't we resolve some time ago that 7th gen b...   Sep 26, 2011 - 11:29 AM
- - cjh4l22   I think I've found some rotors that are close....   Sep 26, 2011 - 11:34 AM
- - azian_advanced   if you get this all installed, i'm curious to ...   Sep 26, 2011 - 1:01 PM
- - Culpable04   QUOTE (azian_advanced @ Sep 26, 2011 - 2...   Sep 26, 2011 - 1:29 PM
- - azian_advanced   i'd be glad to figure out the proper proportio...   Sep 26, 2011 - 7:31 PM
- - Culpable04   I can get all those specs, but still I would like ...   Sep 26, 2011 - 7:41 PM
- - diegohiga   Sounds good so far. Im trying to get the calipers ...   Sep 26, 2011 - 9:05 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   its about getting the big brake kit set up properl...   Sep 26, 2011 - 11:26 PM
- - qatar11   QUOTE (cjh4l22 @ Sep 27, 2011 - 2:11...   Sep 27, 2011 - 4:04 PM
- - richee3   My only contribution- and I intend to start no arg...   Sep 27, 2011 - 5:17 PM
- - azian_advanced   that's a good point, unless the OP is looking ...   Sep 27, 2011 - 5:35 PM
- - Culpable04   instead of arguing and pulling each other's ro...   Sep 27, 2011 - 7:05 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   QUOTE (Culpable04 @ Sep 27, 2011 - 7...   Sep 28, 2011 - 2:11 AM
- - 99gt3sge   @diegohiga so did you ever get those calipers?   Sep 28, 2011 - 2:14 AM
|- - diegohiga   QUOTE (99gt3sge @ Sep 28, 2011 - 3:1...   Sep 28, 2011 - 7:35 AM
- - Culpable04   brake master cylinder is the same in GT4 / GT/ ST/...   Sep 28, 2011 - 6:42 AM
- - Neon90424   my buddy in his st185 said to me thats what I love...   Sep 28, 2011 - 8:37 AM
- - njccmd2002   Lol nobody is trying to convince you, we dont have...   Sep 28, 2011 - 1:05 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   who said they are the same? according to this web...   Sep 28, 2011 - 4:11 PM
- - njccmd2002   i think they are different part numbers because of...   Sep 28, 2011 - 5:04 PM
- - Culpable04   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Sep 28, 2011 - 5...   Sep 28, 2011 - 6:14 PM
|- - diegohiga   QUOTE (Culpable04 @ Sep 28, 2011 - 7...   Sep 28, 2011 - 6:32 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   ya dude or an adjustable proportioning valve. If y...   Sep 28, 2011 - 6:45 PM
|- - diegohiga   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Sep 28, 2011 - 7...   Sep 28, 2011 - 6:52 PM
- - Culpable04   Bonzai, I see the info you posted and you are corr...   Sep 28, 2011 - 7:43 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   just spoke to a guy who's been in the racing/t...   Oct 1, 2011 - 12:11 AM


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