4runner brakes on gt celicas, big upgrate and not expensive! Options

[diegohiga]

I was doing a reserch and apparently 4runner brakes with 4 pistons (non sport) version fits on a gt front rotors, And the sport version fits gt4 rotors. I think the brakes have to come off from a 95-02 3rd gen 4runners and will bolt on perfectly with no modifications.
Now my question is if they fit proportional valve needs to be modified? Becsuse it will be pusshing 4 pistons instead of 1.
If anyone has more info about this please post it here.

This post has been edited by diegohiga: Sep 25, 2011 - 1:20 PM

[Culpable04]

instead of arguing and pulling each other's rope in opposite direction, we should use everything we know as a group to develop the cars capabilities not to stop development.


the advantage of bigger pads / more piston are plenty

more even and consistent brake force with less brake fade with excessive use like on twisted roads or road racing.

the real disadvantage is only cost.

the rest of the disadvantage that can be mention will all be self inflicted due to poor ) or total lack of ) tuning.

qatar will always have a different point of view than most here, because he focus his approach purely on functionality ( which is a great thing ) but I think instead of criticizing and putting down the humble efforts of an upgrade from fellow members who are not as experience as you in proper car modifications, you should instruct and pass on your acknowledge, that how we'll grow and get better as a community.

I agree with everything you have said, and I have been looking for a safe area where I can tune my brake proportioning valve ( not installed yet ) also to help keep brake bias as intended by Toyota I'm installing GT4 brake disc as well, along with stock gt4 brake proportioning valve ( installed already )

as soon as I find a safe environment where I can safely tune my brake proportioning valve I will tune my brake system to maximize braking force while staying on the safe side of things.

engine power is not really a reason to upgrade brakes ,I decided to upgrade my brake while I still had my 7a, why ? brake fade.

I play softball on the company's team, to get to some of the fields I go through some back roads, freshly paved, with no much traffic at all, of beautiful country side roads, by the end of some of them I had to start braking wayy earlier because my pads / disc will be so hot they wouldnt grip as they do when cold, I first upgrade to 7th gen bigger disc, TRD pads and stainless steel lines and DOT4 brake fluid, while this helped a lot, I was still not happy with the inconsistency of my brakes by the end of those runs.

we can only try to guide others on how to do things properly, there will always be someone who will blow his engine, mess his brakes, create sparks while dragging the frame because he lowered the car too much, break his back due to cheap racing seats etc etc, we should warn members of unsafe WAYS of mod'ing a car, not tell them to completely stop modifying, there are always ways of properly doing things and that's what we should pursuit.

as far as locking up tires, ANY brake system will do that, locking up tires doesnt mean a brake system is capable. it just means you locked up the tires.

when does a stock celica lock up the front tires ? just before the rears ? way ahead of the rears ? this is the whole point of tuning brake system, is not for everyone, but there is a huge benefit when done properly.

for those out there who just plainly want the bling bling factor of " brembo " calipers showing up wihtout bothering with the proper way of doing this, the safest way of achieving that is buying a set of those plastic caliper covers, is just like wanting a turbo sound without doing a proper setup, only safe way is one of those turbo whistle things welded on your tail pipe.

let's all be friends again and correct each other on our mistakes and pull all in the same direction of proper development.