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Hey guys, I'm kinda new here and not sure if this is the right place to post this.
I did a search but couldn't find the specific answers I wanted so I thought i'd ask. I live in Sydney Aust and the fuels available to us are: E10(10% ethanol) 91 octane, and regular 95 and 98 unleaded. I recently bought a ST204 ZR which is the equivalent to the American GT. It runs the 5S-FE. The guy I bought it from told me to steer clear of the E10 as it will ruin the engine. As my wallet isn't that deep I decided to give the cheaper E10 a go. After about a month and a half of running the E10(i'm assuming the previous owner used 95) i'm beginning to hear a noise almost like tapping when I rev the engine above 3k rpm and just let it decrease naturally. As it never made this noise before, could I be right in assuming that the E10 is doing something and possibly ruining the engine? The owners manual states that 91 octane is as low as you can go but it doesn't say anything about Ethanol. Thanks in advance, Reece |
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E10 burns a little quicker than regular fuel but otherwise it's harmless. The 5S isn't a performance engine, so just use whatever fuel is cheapest and disregard what the previous owner told you. The noise probably isn't anything big, it could be a noise you never noticed before and now that you've heard it, it's easily distinguishable. Or, as Manny said, it could be something very simple.
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E10 burns a little quicker than regular fuel but otherwise it's harmless. The 5S isn't a performance engine, so just use whatever fuel is cheapest and disregard what the previous owner told you. The noise probably isn't anything big, it could be a noise you never noticed before and now that you've heard it, it's easily distinguishable. Or, as Manny said, it could be something very simple. I would never run "the cheapest gas" in my car, but I guess that's personal preference. I have noticed a difference in performance when it comes to octane. My car likes mid-grade and nothing less. Hess sells "E10" in an 89, which is what I run. Running ****ty fuel and ****ty plugs results in bad cats and premature death of oxygen sensors. Also, it may not be a performance engine, but it is performing higher than it would in a Camry, therefore it should be taken care of better. Your same 5S-FE in a Camry never reaches the RPM's ours does in the Celica because the transmission, unless you smash on the gas, doesn't do it. There is a reason the Camry takes 5W30 oil weight from the factory and the Celica takes 10W30. It has to be protected against thermal breakdown. Yes, our cars are tuned and tweaked by Japan to run at the **** octane we have here, but it doesn't mean that we should accept **** in our cars. E10 or 10% ethanol will corrode your pump and eat away at the inside of your injectors. It takes time, but it does happen. The best way to avoid damage in the states is to run an ethanol treatment every so often. It protects against the buildup of corrosion and cleans out any possible corrosion that there may be. Just wait until the government raises the ethanol to 15%. /TLDR Do not use the ethanol based gas if you can help it. It will ultimately damage your car and the fuel system. This post has been edited by RabidTRD: Oct 19, 2011 - 4:55 PM -------------------- 1994 Toyota Celica GT-S 5S-FE 190k Miles. Project car 1992 Toyota Celica GT 5S-FE 170k Miles. Daily driver/beater 1999 Toyota Camry LE 5S-FE 216K Miles. RIP You will be missed. ![]() *ASE Certified General Manager |
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E10 burns a little quicker than regular fuel but otherwise it's harmless. The 5S isn't a performance engine, so just use whatever fuel is cheapest and disregard what the previous owner told you. The noise probably isn't anything big, it could be a noise you never noticed before and now that you've heard it, it's easily distinguishable. Or, as Manny said, it could be something very simple. I would never run "the cheapest gas" in my car, but I guess that's personal preference. I have noticed a difference in performance when it comes to octane. My car likes mid-grade and nothing less. Hess sells "E10" in an 89, which is what I run. Running ****ty fuel and ****ty plugs results in bad cats and premature death of oxygen sensors. Also, it may not be a performance engine, but it is performing higher than it would in a Camry, therefore it should be taken care of better. Your same 5S-FE in a Camry never reaches the RPM's ours does in the Celica because the transmission, unless you smash on the gas, doesn't do it. There is a reason the Camry takes 5W30 oil weight from the factory and the Celica takes 10W30. It has to be protected against thermal breakdown. Yes, our cars are tuned and tweaked by Japan to run at the **** octane we have here, but it doesn't mean that we should accept **** in our cars. E10 or 10% ethanol will corrode your pump and eat away at the inside of your injectors. It takes time, but it does happen. The best way to avoid damage in the states is to run an ethanol treatment every so often. It protects against the buildup of corrosion and cleans out any possible corrosion that there may be. Just wait until the government raises the ethanol to 15%. /TLDR Do not use the ethanol based gas if you can help it. It will ultimately damage your car and the fuel system. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OMG.. what a load of crap.. i dont know what kind of propoganda you have been reading.. but your all wrong about the E10, and i would assume that your views extend to E85 aswell.. wow.. come on, this guy is asking for help, REAL help. not hokus pokus mumbo jumbo BS.. HANDS DOWN the E is BETTER for your car, and envirornment.... but i guess all of the Evo's and STI's and other high performance cars out there pushing 400+++++ whp on E85, and doing so for YEARS.. are all wrong about ethanol.. the ONLY issue from running any E mix comes from the sedaments and deposits in your system that gets cleaned out when switching over to an E-mix.. as Galcobar pointed out... that and the "rubber gunk" that some will find on the end of there injectors afte using E, comes from poor quality control measures on the part of the station u are purchasing ur fuel from, ( most notibly those whoe do not install new tanks for use of the new fuel type, why you should ALWAYS try to find the newest station around to fill up from) and from poor grounding/insulation of the fuel system.... other than that Galcobar has covered the rest verry well... -------------------- |
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