Dec 11, 2011 - 7:40 PM
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been thinking about swapping a 3vz into my celica
I know the carry an is300 both came with them but was three anything else options on other swaps will be considered too I mainly want something that makes more power than the 5s but I can still order parts for at autozone only other thing is I don't want to spent 5000 on just the swap alone before install just want extra power but have to stay simi cheap (for the price of the swap itself) an be able to dd this for a year or so lol thanks for your help -------------------- 95 gt coupe, v6 swap weekend toy
99 gt hatch beams swapped wife's 94 st hatch my daily driver http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=82235 n |
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Dec 13, 2011 - 9:20 PM
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I just got my 5S back in the car tonight. The passenger side motor mount had sheared off at the block. Had to pull the motor to fix it along with a bunch of other stuff that broke as a result. Long story short, I'm not itching to pull the motor again and do a swap but I know the motors days are numbered and I should start getting things together.
Here's what I have gathered thus far: From Wikipedia: The Toyota MZ engine family is a V6 piston engine series. The MZ series has an aluminum engine block and aluminum alloy DOHC cylinder heads. The cylinders are lined with cast iron, and are of a closed deck design (no open space between the bores). The engine is a 60 degree V6 design. It uses multiport fuel injection (MFI), four valves per cylinder, a one-piece cast camshaft and a cast aluminum intake manifold. The MZ family is a lightweight V6 engine of an all-aluminum design, using lighter weight parts than the heavier duty VZ block engines in an effort to lower production costs, decrease engine weight, and decrease reciprocating weight without sacrificing reliability. Toyota sought to enhance the drivability pattern of the engine (over the 3VZ) at exactly 3000 rpm, since that was the typical engine speed for motors cruising on the highway. The result was less cylinder distortion coupled with the decreased weight of rotating assemblies, smoother operation at that engine speed, and increased engine efficiency. They feature cast aluminum pistons with an anti-friction resin coating (moly) and valve depressions that decrease the chance of valve-to-piston interference in case of timing belt failure on motors without VVT-i. They also use steel rings, smaller-diameter shot-peened rods, and a forged steel crankshaft. This engine has been phased out in most markets, replaced by variants of the new GR series. 1MZ-FE The 1MZ-FE is a 3.0 L (2994 cc) engine. Bore is 87.5 mm and stroke is 83 mm. Output is 168–190 hp @ 5200–5400 rpm with 183–193 lb·ft of torque at 4400 rpm. Horsepower ratings dropped after the Society of Automotive Engineers implemented a new power measurement system for vehicle engines, Toyota engines rated on 87 octane dropped the most, compared to the same engines used by Lexus rated on 91 octane. It has bucket tappets and was designed for good fuel economy without an overall performance trade-off. The 1MZ-FE was on Ward's 10 Best Engines list for 1996. Applications: · 1994–2003 Toyota Camry (V6) · 1994–2003 Lexus ES 300 & Toyota Windom (Japanese domestic market) · 1995–2004 Toyota Avalon & 2000 Toyota Pronard (Avalon for Japanese domestic market) · 1997–2003 Lexus RX 300 · Toyota Harrier (non-US markets) · 1998–2000 Toyota Sienna · 1999–2003 Toyota Solara (V6) · 2000– Toyota Estima (Japanese domestic market) Toyota Racing Development offered a bolt-on TRD supercharger kit for the 1997–2000 Camry, 1998–2000 Sienna and 1999–2000 Solara. Power output was bumped to 242 hp and 242 ft·lbf of torque. The 1MZ-FE with VVT-i is used in the Avalon, Highlander, Sienna and Camry. Output is 210 hp (156 kW) at 5800 rpm with 222 ft·lbf (328 N·m) of torque at 4400 rpm. Early versions of the VVT-i 1MZ used a dual throttle body, cast aluminum intake manifold, and EGR block off plates on the exhaust manifolds. Later versions used an ABS plastic intake manifold to further weight reduction and decrease cost. These versions may also have drive-by-wire/electronic throttle control. Applications: · 1999–2003 Lexus RX 300 (US market) · 1999–2003 Lexus ES 300 · 2000–2004 Toyota Avalon · 2001–2003 Toyota Highlander/Kluger · 2001–2003 Toyota Sienna · 2002– Toyota Alphard (Japanese domestic market) · 2003–2006 Toyota Camry (V6) Back to Rocket: All that really made me want to go with the 1MZ but the oil gelling issues have given me reason to be concerned. It's been hard to wade through all the info on the matter because there is so much of it and it's hard to tell who is telling the truth. There are guys on the camry and sienna forums that swear up and down that they changed the oil more frequently than Toyota specifies and they still got sludge. Here is a list of the V6 vehicles recalled for the oil gelling issue: · Toyota Camry V6 1997-2002 · Toyota Solara V6 1999-2002 · Toyota Sienna V6 1998-2002 · Toyota Avalon V6 1997-2002 · Toyota Highlander V6 2001-2002 · Lexus ES300 1997-2002 · Lexus RX300 1999-2002 What's interesting is that the 5S-FE was recalled to. I deleted those from the list just because I was only keeping information about the V6 engines but the 98-99 celica was part of the recall. |
kurt95gt what all cars came with a 3vzfe Dec 11, 2011 - 7:40 PM
richee3 IS 300 is a 2JZ. I think you meant ES 300. If I... Dec 11, 2011 - 8:02 PM
kurt95gt thanks richee3 I was hoping for more than those 2 ... Dec 11, 2011 - 8:25 PM
richee3 The 1MZ seems like a good option as well, slightly... Dec 11, 2011 - 9:35 PM
kurt95gt QUOTE (richee3 @ Dec 11, 2011 - 10:3... Dec 11, 2011 - 9:46 PM
stephen_lee ECU dont give a dam wether or not the auto is atta... Dec 11, 2011 - 11:21 PM
kurt95gt 95celicast has his 1mz back by a s54 so I figure f... Dec 11, 2011 - 11:37 PM
Smaay the S54 will take the power no problem.
the toyo... Dec 12, 2011 - 12:13 PM
kurt95gt im Goin with3vz due to how easy I seemto be able t... Dec 12, 2011 - 12:38 PM
RocketScott I've been doing a little research on the topic... Dec 12, 2011 - 12:56 PM
kurt95gt im Goin 3vz I've found 4-6 local all for under... Dec 12, 2011 - 1:04 PM
stephen_lee The manual 3vz came with an e53 trans. the s54 sho... Dec 12, 2011 - 2:34 PM
richee3 The S54 can handle around 300 hp but as it has bee... Dec 12, 2011 - 3:29 PM
kurt95gt thanks for the info
trace done the math an said my... Dec 12, 2011 - 4:09 PM
kurt95gt oh an I got approved for my loan for 1000 that won... Dec 12, 2011 - 4:15 PM
kurt95gt I will be swapping the trans at a much later date ... Dec 12, 2011 - 4:28 PM
95CelicaST I have never seen a 1MZ that was anywhere near 160... Dec 12, 2011 - 6:05 PM
RocketScott QUOTE (95CelicaST @ Dec 12, 2011 - 3... Dec 13, 2011 - 12:06 PM
stephen_lee QUOTE (RocketScott @ Dec 13, 2011 - 11... Dec 13, 2011 - 5:48 PM
95CelicaST QUOTE (RocketScott @ Dec 13, 2011 - 9... Dec 13, 2011 - 7:48 PM
kurt95gt the motor is stage 1 so to speak
turbo planned aft... Dec 12, 2011 - 7:52 PM
stephen_lee im trying to tackle the harness myself. its kinda ... Dec 12, 2011 - 8:11 PM
kurt95gt lmk how urs turns out an if you feel confident to ... Dec 12, 2011 - 8:46 PM
kurt95gt I just missed out on a 3vz for 600
but it all wor... Dec 13, 2011 - 1:01 PM
RocketScott It's better to know someone with an engine hoi... Dec 13, 2011 - 2:38 PM
kurt95gt id rather have my own cuz this is one if 3 getting... Dec 13, 2011 - 3:47 PM
kurt95gt ok is there any difference between a 4runner 3vz a... Dec 13, 2011 - 5:47 PM
kurt95gt I hope so lol im normally easy on my car from a da... Dec 13, 2011 - 5:59 PM
stephen_lee QUOTE (kurt95gt @ Dec 13, 2011 - 4:5... Dec 13, 2011 - 6:17 PM
kurt95gt ok scratch that idea Dec 13, 2011 - 6:37 PM
kurt95gt ok could some list what models some of these other... Dec 13, 2011 - 8:45 PM
kurt95gt thanks ill look into these more as some as I can n... Dec 13, 2011 - 10:26 PM
95CelicaST Your list doesn't have the early model 1MZ on ... Dec 13, 2011 - 11:45 PM
kurt95gt QUOTE (95CelicaST @ Dec 14, 2011 - 12... Dec 14, 2011 - 12:35 AM
95CelicaST Camry and es300. Apparently they are not prone to ... Dec 14, 2011 - 8:35 AM
kurt95gt haha that's the year range the junk yards been... Dec 14, 2011 - 10:10 AM
kurt95gt ok the junk yard has a complete swap (motor no tra... Dec 14, 2011 - 10:16 AM
kurt95gt Ok talked to the junk yard again they have still i... Dec 14, 2011 - 10:31 AM
95CelicaST My harness was done by MR220V on MR2.com and MR2OC... Dec 14, 2011 - 11:14 AM
kurt95gt ok ill keep that in mind thank you
ill try to get ... Dec 14, 2011 - 11:39 AM
kurt95gt wtf is the deal with a flywheel for this motor can... Dec 14, 2011 - 2:29 PM
95CelicaST I didn't bore anything out. I bought a Fidanza... Dec 14, 2011 - 3:21 PM
kurt95gt ok I thought I read someone modded the s54 flywhee... Dec 14, 2011 - 3:42 PM
95CelicaST No, the clutch was $340, and the Flywheel was... Dec 14, 2011 - 5:33 PM
kurt95gt has anyone tryed a s54 flywheel to see how far off... Dec 14, 2011 - 5:46 PM
kurt95gt Im picking up 3vz/e53 Saturday
500 for pair Dec 15, 2011 - 10:00 AM
stephen_lee QUOTE (kurt95gt @ Dec 15, 2011 - 9:0... Dec 15, 2011 - 10:09 AM
kurt95gt yea
only now got some bad news idk if im getting... Dec 15, 2011 - 11:36 AM
kurt95gt found another 3vz for 550 they pull it an I dont ... Dec 15, 2011 - 2:04 PM
kurt95gt ok this is probably a stupid question but do I nee... Dec 15, 2011 - 2:48 PM
stephen_lee im droppin mine in at 270xxx miles w/o a rebuild. ... Dec 15, 2011 - 8:03 PM
richee3 Better safe than sorry. I'd at least replace p... Dec 15, 2011 - 8:10 PM
kurt95gt I plan on basically everything richee3 said but I ... Dec 15, 2011 - 8:34 PM
95CelicaST Tear the motor down and check the bores for damage... Dec 16, 2011 - 9:02 AM
kurt95gt yea im gonna atleast drop the oilman an check unde... Dec 16, 2011 - 10:47 AM
stephen_lee I'm not turboing this motor. Im just getting i... Dec 16, 2011 - 11:46 AM
kurt95gt ahh ok well depending on how it seems to run I may... Dec 16, 2011 - 12:01 PM
kurt95gt so went to look at what I thought was going to be ... Dec 17, 2011 - 6:28 PM
richee3 Win! Dec 17, 2011 - 8:42 PM
kurt95gt I hope your right
now I just have a few things im ... Dec 17, 2011 - 8:53 PM
95CelicaST RE: what all cars came with a 3vzfe Dec 17, 2011 - 9:16 PM
kurt95gt QUOTE (95CelicaST @ Dec 17, 2011 - 9... Dec 17, 2011 - 9:23 PM
RocketScott Looking forward to seeing how it goes! Dec 18, 2011 - 5:12 PM
kurt95gt anyone kno of a link that can show me what all nee... Dec 19, 2011 - 10:35 PM
95CelicaST Your best bet is to hop over onto MR2OC and dig th... Dec 20, 2011 - 11:36 AM
kurt95gt QUOTE (95CelicaST @ Dec 20, 2011 - 11... Dec 20, 2011 - 12:49 PM
95CelicaST yes. www.mr2oc.com Dec 20, 2011 - 1:11 PM
kurt95gt found it an read a couple threads so far
nothing o... Dec 20, 2011 - 1:26 PM
kurt95gt ok so I ended up at mr2oc.co.uk lol but I found th... Dec 20, 2011 - 2:07 PM
95CelicaST If the Celica has the same return-style fuel syste... Dec 20, 2011 - 4:16 PM
kurt95gt QUOTE (95CelicaST @ Dec 20, 2011 - 5... Dec 20, 2011 - 4:44 PM
kurt95gt ok im thinking the awnser is a no
but does the 3vz... Dec 26, 2011 - 7:05 PM
stephen_lee QUOTE (kurt95gt @ Dec 26, 2011 - 6:0... Dec 27, 2011 - 10:01 AM![]() ![]() |
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