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post Dec 14, 2011 - 5:38 PM
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Hey guys,
I thinking about doing the V6 camry engine conversion on a 1990 SX. Just wondering dose anyone know if the ST185 gearbox will fit to any camry engine. i was hoping convert her to AWD.
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post Jan 10, 2012 - 5:15 PM
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The percentage lost through The drivetrain would be the same
So let's day the 3s has a 12% power difference from crank to wheels
The 2gr would suffer from the same 12% Loss of power
BTW 12% is just a random number used for the point at hand


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post Jan 12, 2012 - 5:35 PM
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QUOTE (kurt95gt @ Jan 10, 2012 - 5:15 PM) *
The percentage lost through The drivetrain would be the same
So let's day the 3s has a 12% power difference from crank to wheels
The 2gr would suffer from the same 12% Loss of power
BTW 12% is just a random number used for the point at hand



you know this? or believe this?


example..a stock car puts down 100HP and losses about (lets just say 12%)
now put a 1000HP motor on the same car (assuming that the drive train has been suitably upgraded, and still weighs the same or less. so for the sake of this argument, the drive train is the same [apples to apples])

so you want me to believe that the smaller HP motor is only going to lose say 12HP to the drive train, wile the 1000hp motor is going to lose 120hp? pushing the same amount of mass?
simple physics.. not a chance... the percentage drive train loss is relative, not constant.

and the higher the HP on the motor (more the torque since that is the proper measurement of what is needed to move X mass.) the smaller the % of loss from the drive train.




and since the 2grfe has more torque, it will have a smaller amount of loss, especially when pushing the mass of a heaver AWD drive train. when compared to the 3sgte.


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- watty01   V6 Conversion   Dec 14, 2011 - 5:38 PM
- - kurt95gt   the stock s54 trans from a gt will bolt to the 3zv...   Dec 14, 2011 - 5:49 PM
- - Smaay   not again   Dec 14, 2011 - 6:51 PM
- - Neon90424   newbies should be unable to create a thread withou...   Dec 14, 2011 - 8:04 PM
|- - BonzaiCelica   QUOTE (Neon90424 @ Dec 14, 2011 - 8...   Dec 14, 2011 - 9:59 PM
|- - kurt95gt   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Dec 14, 2011 - 9...   Dec 14, 2011 - 10:48 PM
|- - watty01   QUOTE (kurt95gt @ Dec 14, 2011 - 11...   Dec 15, 2011 - 5:21 AM
- - kurt95gt   Im working on doing a v6 swap too there is info on...   Dec 14, 2011 - 9:14 PM
|- - watty01   QUOTE (kurt95gt @ Dec 14, 2011 - 10...   Dec 14, 2011 - 10:14 PM
- - quick_5hifter   I am wondering why in the world would you need a V...   Dec 15, 2011 - 4:16 PM
- - richee3   Power delivery is way better with a V6 than the 3S...   Dec 15, 2011 - 4:26 PM
- - kurt95gt   I don't see how a 3s is cheaper my v6 swap is ...   Dec 15, 2011 - 5:55 PM
- - richee3   ^^ I agree with most of that, apart from the total...   Dec 15, 2011 - 11:01 PM
- - kurt95gt   The reason mine is staying on such a low budget is...   Dec 16, 2011 - 12:51 AM
- - watty01   In some cases money isnt that much of an issue, be...   Dec 16, 2011 - 2:01 AM
- - giraffe   and to reiterate: having a 3rd gen 3s-ge in the st...   Dec 16, 2011 - 8:42 AM
- - njccmd2002   Just because it has not been frequently done, does...   Dec 16, 2011 - 9:17 AM
- - stephen_lee   turbos are extra parts. more stuff to go wrong.. ...   Dec 16, 2011 - 12:00 PM
- - stephen_lee   also about the awd trans... It will bolt up to the...   Dec 16, 2011 - 12:04 PM
|- - mandrek   QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Dec 16, 2011 - 12...   Dec 19, 2011 - 1:43 AM
|- - stephen_lee   QUOTE (mandrek @ Dec 19, 2011 - 12:4...   Dec 19, 2011 - 7:41 AM
|- - mandrek   QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Dec 19, 2011 - 7...   Dec 19, 2011 - 3:29 PM
- - Redmann813   What about a vr4 3000gt although those arent very ...   Jan 10, 2012 - 12:08 PM
|- - mandrek   QUOTE (Redmann813 @ Jan 10, 2012 - 12...   Jan 10, 2012 - 1:33 PM
- - kurt95gt   Got a buddy that had one They handle like crap M...   Jan 10, 2012 - 1:50 PM
- - mandrek   yup that is why i was pointing out that it would t...   Jan 10, 2012 - 4:31 PM
- - kurt95gt   The percentage lost through The drivetrain would b...   Jan 10, 2012 - 5:15 PM
|- - mandrek   QUOTE (kurt95gt @ Jan 10, 2012 - 5:1...   Jan 12, 2012 - 5:35 PM
- - kurt95gt   im basing that off of what I was told by my friend...   Jan 12, 2012 - 7:14 PM
- - mandrek   hmm your argument does draw a good point that i d...   Jan 13, 2012 - 12:08 AM
- - kurt95gt   yep we both are right an I plan on leaving my s54 ...   Jan 13, 2012 - 12:27 AM
- - fibrewizard   my gt4 AWD 3vzfe turbo conversion is in progress ...   Jan 13, 2012 - 3:54 AM
- - fibrewizard   as for the 2grfe engine research has lead me to be...   Jan 13, 2012 - 4:01 AM
- - ST204R   Kurt, Having driven my v6 celica for a couple of ...   Jan 30, 2012 - 6:30 AM
- - kurt95gt   I do plan on swapping to a e153 trans later on but...   Jan 30, 2012 - 10:55 AM


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