Jan 26, 2012 - 2:21 PM
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Kind of off-topic but stay with me here.
I'm researching the alcohol level of gasoline in every state. In Illinois, its E10 (well... UP to 10% ethanol) or E85. For Toyota, majority of the cars from 1987 will operate on E10 but Minnesota is pushing the E15 mandate which E15 is not recommended to cars prior to 2001 ---> 6th gen Celica. I want to ask the local guys in every state, what is your gas fuel regulations or laws? I know Florida, Minnesota, Hawaii, Missouri, Iowa, Montana, Kansas, Oregon, Louisiana, Washington, and Maryland MUST have 10% ethanol in their gas. Other states are up to 10% but never over (besides E85). If your state (MN people especially) has E15 and up gas or blender pumps, do you see any symptoms with the celica using the high alcohol content fuel? I got lot of information off the internet but no definite data of each state and their fuel regulations for 2011. (Found 2007 but that data is too old to use now) What about you 6gc'ers in Brazil? I believe the gas over there is like E20~E25. What kind of gas do you put in your 6gc? Sorry, its for work but it got me curious on how it will affect the celica. I'm not expecting much of you to answer this for me but I thought it won't hurt to ask. Thanks in advance, Shigs This post has been edited by Shigexile: Jan 26, 2012 - 2:27 PM -------------------- PROJECT 6TH GEN
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Jan 28, 2012 - 3:46 AM
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thanks for the input guys.
I just hope the E15 doesn't become the new standard instead of E10 and what's even worse is that I found out Minnesota is actually trying to pass the E20 mandate. And i don't think using gasoline thats rated above E15 is a good idea. Anything above E10 is too corrosive for our cars. Reading up on SI engines prior to MY2001's E15, E20 test results, for the 6gen to be compatible with the E15 and E20 blends, we need to upgrade our fuel delivery systems to prevent engine damage. Even if that is to be upgraded, the AF mixture leaning, and vapor lock is likely to happen. Phase separation of the alcohol, water, and gasoline will also happen if the celica is not driven on a daily basis. So what else does the celica have to do in order to prevent these symptoms ? A lot actually. Ethanol eats away rubber, plastic and even some metals to a significant amount. Any MN guys out there? Do gas stations there usually sell E15, E20, E30, E50 even, through blender pumps? My customer is selling most of their products in MN so I need to make sure our product can handle the high alcohol content fuels. Smaay, is there anything else the supra guys upgrade on their car to handle the E85? This post has been edited by Shigexile: Jan 28, 2012 - 3:47 AM -------------------- PROJECT 6TH GEN
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Shigexile Gasahol for your Celica Jan 26, 2012 - 2:21 PM
rave2n QUOTE (Shigexile @ Jan 26, 2012 - 2... Jan 26, 2012 - 3:44 PM
Johnnyny e10 almost everywhere now here in pa hard to find ... Jan 26, 2012 - 6:02 PM
Neon90424 I thought youd get more gas mileage having a lean... Jan 26, 2012 - 9:52 PM
richee3 Nah, ethanol burns quicker than regular gasoline s... Jan 26, 2012 - 10:22 PM
Neon90424 thats why I said e15 haha, my car gets awful gas m... Jan 26, 2012 - 10:28 PM
stephen_lee texas is up to 10% Jan 26, 2012 - 11:02 PM
ricochet1490 it's been 10% for YEARS. I ran 40+% ethanol i... Jan 27, 2012 - 2:43 AM
Smaay Yes E85 needs more fuel. basically you have to dou... Jan 27, 2012 - 9:36 AM
ricochet1490 you really think that E20 will eat your fuel inter... Jan 28, 2012 - 12:09 PM
richee3 QUOTE (ricochet1490 @ Jan 28, 2012 - 11... Jan 28, 2012 - 12:38 PM
Shigexile Yes, I have lab results conducted by Minnesota uni... Jan 28, 2012 - 2:55 PM
ricochet1490 I'm glad you're open to a couple points of... Jan 28, 2012 - 4:03 PM
richee3 I think BonzaiCelica is running a mixture of E85 a... Jan 28, 2012 - 4:10 PM
ricochet1490 QUOTE (richee3 @ Jan 28, 2012 - 4:10... Jan 28, 2012 - 4:28 PM![]() ![]() |
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