Gasahol for your Celica, In your state Options

[Shigexile]

Kind of off-topic but stay with me here.

I'm researching the alcohol level of gasoline in every state.
In Illinois, its E10 (well... UP to 10% ethanol) or E85.

For Toyota, majority of the cars from 1987 will operate on E10 but Minnesota is pushing the E15 mandate which E15 is not recommended to cars prior to 2001 ---> 6th gen Celica.

I want to ask the local guys in every state, what is your gas fuel regulations or laws?
I know Florida, Minnesota, Hawaii, Missouri, Iowa, Montana, Kansas, Oregon, Louisiana, Washington, and Maryland MUST have 10% ethanol in their gas.
Other states are up to 10% but never over (besides E85).

If your state (MN people especially) has E15 and up gas or blender pumps, do you see any symptoms with the celica using the high alcohol content fuel?
I got lot of information off the internet but no definite data of each state and their fuel regulations for 2011. (Found 2007 but that data is too old to use now)

What about you 6gc'ers in Brazil? I believe the gas over there is like E20~E25. What kind of gas do you put in your 6gc?

Sorry, its for work but it got me curious on how it will affect the celica.
I'm not expecting much of you to answer this for me but I thought it won't hurt to ask.

Thanks in advance,
Shigs

This post has been edited by Shigexile: Jan 26, 2012 - 2:27 PM

[ricochet1490]

you really think that E20 will eat your fuel internals while E10 used over the course of the life of the car(because lets face it, e10 has been around a while) have diferent effects?!

When they first started adding ethanol to gasoline in the late 80's early 90's they had to change the chemical composition of the fuel delivery system. You are correct, ethanol will eat the rubbers and plastics of a fuel system.... that wasn't designed for it. A simple change of chemical composition, done by the manufacturers at the time of the E10 change over made the fuel system able to handle 100% ethanol if need be. I mean sure, There is more alcohol in E85, but 8.5 tanks of E10 is equivalent in terms of amount of alcohol right?. It doesn't make sense that a smaller percentage of alcohol would be better for anything other than allowing the engine to run the same as it always did.

There is no 'conversion' needed to run ethanol. Infact the only thing that gives a vehicle a "flex fuel" tag is some sensors that detect the presence and percentage of ethanol in the fuel and an ecu map to help adjust the A/F.
My car over the course of time did it naturally because of oxygen sensors.

The supra guys i'm sure have standalone ecu's that are customized for E85 if they are running 2000cc injectors and 3 fuel pumps. There is nothing stock about those cars.

But i would LOVE to see the sources that say E30 will eat your fuel system and E10 will leave it alone.

I would be questioning if it's a forum of guys who is telling you that information.... they're likely the same guys who say 5sfe engines, stock, NEED 93 octane gas, and that think anytime Vin Diesel gets in an old muscle car it's going to be able to pop wheelies... even while traveling across the desert at close to 70mph

This should be all the proof you need. 2000 Tahoe with 100k miles of strictly E85.... They tear down the engine and fuel system and debunk all the myths, even compare the fuel system to a similar one that ran gasoline......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuOs1yap8mU