Mar 30, 2012 - 12:00 AM
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Hey all, I'm trying to decide what to do with my 7AFE (have to take it apart due to a rod knock anyway). I've kicked around a few ideas (or maybe a lot
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1994 Celica ST 5-speed "King Cobra II" -- 2011-???? |
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Apr 5, 2012 - 12:37 PM
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My local import machine shop charges $35 to deck a 4cylinder head and $45 to deck a 4 cylinder block. A chemical dip is included in the price for the heads, Im not sure about the block.
This would be the route I would go, you can also get a thinner head gasket for some extra $s. Im not sure how many thousandths of an inch you can remove but with an inline 4 the only major issues you have to worry about are the valves and sparkplug hitting the piston and taking to much material off where the waterjackets are located. Do some research and find out how many CCs to remove from the combution chamber. I think you could run 10 to 1 CR without needing high octane(unless you try to advance it) and once you get to 11 to 1 CR you will most likely need to go 93 octane. I think 13 to 1 and up requires racing fuel and that gets real expensive. |
Apr 5, 2012 - 10:17 PM
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My local import machine shop charges $35 to deck a 4cylinder head and $45 to deck a 4 cylinder block. A chemical dip is included in the price for the heads, Im not sure about the block. This would be the route I would go, you can also get a thinner head gasket for some extra $s. Im not sure how many thousandths of an inch you can remove but with an inline 4 the only major issues you have to worry about are the valves and sparkplug hitting the piston and taking to much material off where the waterjackets are located. Do some research and find out how many CCs to remove from the combution chamber. I think you could run 10 to 1 CR without needing high octane(unless you try to advance it) and once you get to 11 to 1 CR you will most likely need to go 93 octane. I think 13 to 1 and up requires racing fuel and that gets real expensive. WOW!!! $45 to deck the block!!! awesome.. my shop here charged $135 to deck the block.. but he also told me that it was because the block is cast iron.. and not aluminum.. is that $45 for iron block aswell? and to the OP... IMO do a clean rebuild, and then go turbo.. thats what im doing.. and all of my research shows it the best option, if not doing a swap. -------------------- |
PaukST 7A-FE Compression Ratio Mar 30, 2012 - 12:00 AM
Bitter 9.5:1
Will need cams too
Tune
Higher octane Mar 30, 2012 - 7:31 AM
PaukST My initial thoughts were to replace the 7AFE pisto... Apr 2, 2012 - 2:07 AM
Smaay dont bother trying to drop in 4A parts. its not wo... Apr 2, 2012 - 11:51 AM
PaukST Hm, I guess it may just be the wrong route to go f... Apr 2, 2012 - 1:58 PM
stephen_lee import performance parts . net sell "HP KITS... Apr 3, 2012 - 2:27 PM
Smaay the problem is you have a 7A-FE, that was the econ... Apr 4, 2012 - 8:58 AM
PaukST QUOTE (Smaay @ Apr 4, 2012 - 9:58 AM... Apr 4, 2012 - 11:33 PM
Smaay did you see the thread i made in the stickys? its ... Apr 5, 2012 - 9:24 AM
Special_Edy QUOTE (mandrek @ Apr 5, 2012 - 10:17... Apr 6, 2012 - 11:47 AM
PaukST As far as I can tell, it would only take 3cc less ... Apr 5, 2012 - 5:38 PM
Special_Edy Just have it decked. Do the stock rebuild.
You are... Apr 5, 2012 - 7:43 PM
richee3 QUOTE (Special_Edy @ Apr 5, 2012 - 7... Apr 5, 2012 - 8:00 PM
Bitter timing advance is similar to a compression increas... Apr 5, 2012 - 9:41 PM
PaukST Given what Smaay mentioned about the one he tore d... Apr 5, 2012 - 10:36 PM
PaukST It looks like reducing the chamber height by ~ .5m... Apr 6, 2012 - 11:35 PM
Special_Edy QUOTE (PaukST @ Apr 6, 2012 - 11:35 ... Apr 7, 2012 - 12:50 AM
celica74 Let us know what you decide to do, the progress an... Apr 20, 2012 - 11:01 AM
Special_Edy QUOTE (celica74 @ Apr 20, 2012 - 11... Apr 20, 2012 - 11:23 AM
celica74 QUOTE (Special_Edy @ Apr 20, 2012 - 12... Apr 20, 2012 - 2:41 PM
Bitter with 15 degrees total base advance (+5 from stock)... Apr 21, 2012 - 1:45 PM
celica74 QUOTE (Bitter @ Apr 21, 2012 - 1:45 ... Apr 22, 2012 - 9:10 PM
Special_Edy Well and besides the price of higher octane, lower... Apr 21, 2012 - 2:13 PM
Bitter I think it'll turn all the way to 25 but the g... Apr 22, 2012 - 9:29 PM
Special_Edy QUOTE (Bitter @ Apr 22, 2012 - 9:29 ... Apr 23, 2012 - 1:35 AM
celica74 QUOTE (Special_Edy @ Apr 23, 2012 - 2... Apr 23, 2012 - 7:16 AM
celica74 QUOTE (Special_Edy @ Apr 23, 2012 - 2... Apr 23, 2012 - 7:16 AM
Bitter I found 15 deg gave me more low end actually, ther... Apr 23, 2012 - 7:34 AM
celica74 QUOTE (Bitter @ Apr 23, 2012 - 7:34 ... Apr 23, 2012 - 8:45 PM
Bitter What year is yours? I never heard knock, I monitor... Apr 23, 2012 - 8:58 PM
celica74 QUOTE (Bitter @ Apr 23, 2012 - 8:58 ... Apr 23, 2012 - 9:48 PM
celica74 QUOTE (Bitter @ Apr 23, 2012 - 9:58 ... Apr 25, 2012 - 7:31 AM
Bitter http://www.contactmagazine.com/Issue54/EngineBasic... Apr 23, 2012 - 9:09 PM
Bitter Did you set the base timing correctly and check wi... Apr 23, 2012 - 10:44 PM
mandrek umm IIRC correctly its TE1 and E1, in the dieg por... Apr 24, 2012 - 12:19 PM
Special_Edy Another thing to add- make sure your idle is 650-7... Apr 24, 2012 - 1:21 PM
mandrek indeed, and assuming that the tension on the throt... Apr 24, 2012 - 1:38 PM
celica74 Ha more things to do then i thought. Ive been driv... Apr 24, 2012 - 1:54 PM
Bitter But did you have the pins jumped on a hot engine w... Apr 24, 2012 - 9:39 PM
celica74 QUOTE (Bitter @ Apr 24, 2012 - 10:39... Apr 24, 2012 - 9:46 PM
Bitter Fine, but were the pins jumped? Apr 24, 2012 - 10:59 PM
celica74 QUOTE (Bitter @ Apr 24, 2012 - 10:59... Apr 25, 2012 - 12:01 AM
Bitter QUOTE (celica74 @ Apr 25, 2012 - 12... Apr 25, 2012 - 7:17 AM
PaukST Got my engine fully apart, I'll put up pics or... May 1, 2012 - 12:18 AM
celica74 QUOTE (PaukST @ May 1, 2012 - 1:18 A... May 1, 2012 - 2:13 PM
Special_Edy I think he meant having the block or heads milled.... May 1, 2012 - 2:28 PM
PaukST QUOTE (Special_Edy @ May 1, 2012 - 3... May 1, 2012 - 10:10 PM
mandrek there are no ARP bolts/studs that fit the 7afe sto... May 1, 2012 - 10:42 PM
celica74 QUOTE (mandrek @ May 1, 2012 - 10:42... May 1, 2012 - 11:58 PM
PaukST QUOTE (mandrek @ May 1, 2012 - 11:42... May 3, 2012 - 5:37 PM
Special_Edy QUOTE (PaukST @ May 3, 2012 - 5:37 P... May 4, 2012 - 12:47 PM
mandrek CAN you? yes. its is worth it? NO... sure you c... May 4, 2012 - 12:35 PM
richee3 ^^ I love inline engines May 4, 2012 - 1:16 PM
Special_Edy QUOTE (richee3 @ May 4, 2012 - 1:16 ... May 4, 2012 - 2:02 PM
PaukST QUOTE (mandrek @ May 4, 2012 - 1:35 ... May 4, 2012 - 4:59 PM
Special_Edy Id replace the oil pump while you have it apart. S... May 4, 2012 - 6:53 PM![]() ![]() |
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