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post May 29, 2012 - 9:45 AM
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Whats peoples opinions on slammed cars? and on "cars set up for proformance", i think its all opinion if you like cars low to the ground then do it. if you want to turn you car in to a race car... then stop think about it, and then buy a car that is actually a race car. cause a toyota celica isnt really a race car smile.gif
 
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post May 29, 2012 - 11:43 AM
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Your car only handles better with the coils than when you did the springs because you weren't running the correct struts. Get real struts to match those lower and stiffer springs and then talk about the difference. My Koni's can and do handle just as good, if not better than most of the coilovers under $1,200 on the market. Yeah, I'm not as low, but I am as low as my car will go without destroying camber with this setup. You can only fit a half finger between my tire and the wheel well which is low enough for this car for me.

That being said, I do like slammed cars. I drool over Euro sparklers (Euro cars slammed so low they shoot up sparks) and would love to slam an old Corona that my customer is trying to get rid of. However, bags do nothing for performance (Please learn to spell that word because when you say things like "proformance," it makes you look ignorant) and the only proper way to slam a car and maintain the correct cornering ability is to use coils.

I know guys that will cut sway bars out just so they can slam their car as low as it can go. They have fun creeping down streets... but that's not what the Celica was intended for. It's not a creeper, it's designed to take corners at high rates of speed.

If you care about the pony's out of the engine and you think that is the only way to run a race, you need to stop watching "Fast and Furious" and actually sit in a properly tuned, neutral powered car as it tackles a technical course.

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post May 29, 2012 - 12:21 PM
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Your car only handles better with the coils than when you did the springs because you weren't running the correct struts. Get real struts to match those lower and stiffer springs and then talk about the difference. My Koni's can and do handle just as good, if not better than most of the coilovers under $1,200 on the market. Yeah, I'm not as low, but I am as low as my car will go without destroying camber with this setup. You can only fit a half finger between my tire and the wheel well which is low enough for this car for me.

I know guys that will cut sway bars out just so they can slam their car as low as it can go. They have fun creeping down streets... but that's not what the Celica was intended for. It's not a creeper, it's designed to take corners at high rates of speed.

If you care about the pony's out of the engine and you think that is the only way to run a race, you need to stop watching "Fast and Furious" and actually sit in a properly tuned, neutral powered car as it tackles a technical course.


Lol, you don't need to tell me about correct, real sh!t bro. I know all about that. That is why i said people with crappy spring/strut setup.

And actually, the USDM Celica was intended to get good gas mileage and get people from point A to point B for hundreds upon thousands of miles. Sh!t like getting groceries and driving to work with a little bit of style.

It has nothing to do with max hp or fast and the furious as to why I want to wait to performance tune my suspension for more hp. Simply put, I actually have driven on a track and I think it is boring as fuk to have a low power car even through corners... Especially with FWD... Yeah you can rip through corners, but you're still going slow, lol. 130hp to the crank is not neutral power too me..that is low power..

And for your "you need to stop watching F&F, this and that I'm so big and bad and know so many things" comment.. While you have busy reading other people's opinions on forums, i have actually had hours of track seat time (yes track time, not the little twistys on your way home from work) in my dad's 2006 BMW 330i 6sp with a Dinan stage 1 kit and Koni springs/struts rebuilt by Dinan (is this not a properly tuned neutral power car?!). So it makes YOU look kind of ignorant talking on behalf of sh!t you know absoleutly nothing about based on my DD. When my dad sells me this car, of course I'm going to keep its performance suspension setup because to me, this car justifies a performance setup.

Its all personal pref. I think slammed cars look cool and if its not effecting what you use the car for do what you will with it.

And as for rear camber. Im working on some custom RUCA's that I can hopefully make available to everyone since at the moment there is none for our celicas. smile.gif

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Posts in this topic
- TannerEsser   Proformance mods vs. styling mods(excessive camber, slammedness ect.)   May 29, 2012 - 9:45 AM
- - kurt95gt   Depends what you consider a race car Slammed cars...   May 29, 2012 - 10:06 AM
|- - TannerEsser   QUOTE (kurt95gt @ May 29, 2012 - 11...   May 29, 2012 - 10:26 AM
|- - kurt95gt   QUOTE (TannerEsser @ May 29, 2012 - 10...   May 29, 2012 - 12:10 PM
- - Tigawoods   QUOTE (TannerEsser @ May 29, 2012 - 10...   May 29, 2012 - 10:35 AM
- - enderswift   looks like a racecar to me   May 29, 2012 - 10:56 AM
|- - TannerEsser   QUOTE (enderswift @ May 29, 2012 - 11...   May 29, 2012 - 8:21 PM
|- - richee3   QUOTE (enderswift @ May 29, 2012 - 11...   May 29, 2012 - 8:39 PM
- - mak5603   Ive told you my stance (lol no pun intended) in pe...   May 29, 2012 - 11:05 AM
- - 3WayStunna   Im all "proformance" minded with my celi...   May 29, 2012 - 11:34 AM
- - Tigawoods   auto-x is really one of the only racing types (to ...   May 29, 2012 - 11:41 AM
- - RabidTRD   Your car only handles better with the coils than w...   May 29, 2012 - 11:43 AM
|- - mak5603   QUOTE (RabidTRD @ May 29, 2012 - 9:4...   May 29, 2012 - 12:21 PM
||- - RabidTRD   You know what, never mind. I wasn't targeting ...   May 29, 2012 - 12:37 PM
|- - TannerEsser   QUOTE (RabidTRD @ May 29, 2012 - 12...   May 29, 2012 - 8:43 PM
|- - SwissFerdi   QUOTE (TannerEsser @ May 29, 2012 - 9...   May 29, 2012 - 10:01 PM
|- - TannerEsser   QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ May 29, 2012 - 11...   May 30, 2012 - 12:05 AM
- - RabidTRD   I will also say that I plan on getting coils somet...   May 29, 2012 - 11:51 AM
- - jordisonjr   This went off topic quick lol   May 29, 2012 - 12:54 PM
- - mak5603   Word, I'm not mad at all man, and not trying t...   May 29, 2012 - 12:56 PM
|- - RabidTRD   QUOTE (mak5603 @ May 29, 2012 - 1:56...   May 29, 2012 - 1:02 PM
- - RabidTRD   http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F...zRacX...   May 29, 2012 - 1:06 PM
- - czwalga   Low looks nice, slammed looks stupid. There are s...   May 29, 2012 - 1:49 PM
|- - jordisonjr   QUOTE (czwalga @ May 29, 2012 - 2:49...   May 29, 2012 - 1:51 PM
|- - czwalga   QUOTE (jordisonjr @ May 29, 2012 - 2...   May 29, 2012 - 1:55 PM
|- - RabidTRD   QUOTE (czwalga @ May 29, 2012 - 2:55...   May 29, 2012 - 4:05 PM
|- - Syaoran   QUOTE (RabidTRD @ May 29, 2012 - 5:0...   May 29, 2012 - 6:03 PM
- - RabidTRD   I see this as more for looks:   May 29, 2012 - 4:11 PM
- - S8S8   I'm definitely not a fan of slammed. My car s...   May 29, 2012 - 8:45 PM
- - kurt95gt   Dude you do you ask for other people opinions an t...   May 29, 2012 - 9:41 PM
|- - mak5603   QUOTE (kurt95gt @ May 29, 2012 - 7:4...   May 30, 2012 - 1:43 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   that celica is just perfect. You can see the top o...   May 30, 2012 - 12:16 AM
- - Rusty   This got out of hand pretty quickly.   May 30, 2012 - 3:02 AM


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