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post Jan 31, 2006 - 3:17 PM
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Is it possible to put a 7th gen GTS motor ( 180HP VVTL-i) into a 6th Gen GTS ?
 
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post Jun 22, 2012 - 11:34 AM
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wow, i cant believe i never seen this thread before. there is a TON of mis information that Dr. Tweak put here. first off the 1ZZ 5 speed and 2ZZ 6 speed use "almost" the exact same transmission. the only difference is gear ratios and the 6th gear. they use the exact same clutch and engine mounts.

The 7A-FE transmission does use the same exact clutch and pressure plate as the 1ZZ/2ZZ, however the bell housings are different and it wont bolt up directly. That don't mean it cant be alters to fit. but why? use the 6 speed!

no some things to consider, the 2ZZ is backwards from your 7A. this means the intake is on the front and the exhaust is in the back, guess what your steering rack is right in the way of the header. so you will have to alter that alot! then there is the wiring, NIGHTMARE! much easier to do a 3S-GTE or 1MZ. the 2ZZ does not make good torque. you need to spin the engine up over 6000 into "lift" before it makes any power, and the 6th gen celica is much heavier than the 7th. so its going to be slower.

if you really want to do an engine swap, i suggest looking into a V6. they are cheaper than a 3S-GTE, the wiring is the same between the two, installing would be the same since the V6 can use the same trans as the 3S-GTE.


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2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
1997 Supra TT 6speed
1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap
1990 Celica All-Trac

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- VancouverChik94   7th gen motor in a 6th Gen?   Jan 31, 2006 - 3:17 PM
- - Kwanza26   All those who said the 2ZZ is a bad idea are only ...   Jan 31, 2006 - 8:18 PM
- - macavely   the 3s is the easier thing to do since there is no...   Jan 31, 2006 - 8:52 PM
- - playr158   Tweak brother where you at 96 ST to a 2002 2zzge ...   Jan 31, 2006 - 9:46 PM
- - purplegt4   yea 2zz-ge is even in a lotus elise. some yahama ...   Jan 31, 2006 - 10:09 PM
- - macavely   the lotus version of this engine is simply a work ...   Jan 31, 2006 - 10:17 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   Hmmm, don't know how I missed this one. I usua...   Feb 6, 2006 - 4:38 AM
- - CelicaZR   Very good info there Doc. Question: $2500-350...   Feb 6, 2006 - 6:14 AM
- - Dr_Tweak   Oh yes, that's everything. Actually, if you di...   Feb 6, 2006 - 6:25 AM
- - Dr_Tweak   celicaST, you're totally right about this swap...   Feb 7, 2006 - 1:23 AM
- - defgeph   This is another great option. I would love to see ...   Feb 7, 2006 - 1:24 AM
- - defgeph   This thread is not going anywhere, everyone has a ...   Feb 7, 2006 - 2:41 AM
- - purplegt4   well now that that's settled... _____________...   Feb 7, 2006 - 3:18 AM
- - lagos   good post man... but just wanted to point out some...   Feb 7, 2006 - 3:38 AM
- - purplegt4   QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 7, 2006 - 3:38 AM)...   Feb 7, 2006 - 3:45 AM
- - devilsden97   in a way, the 2zz is like a beams..(powerwise, 180...   Feb 7, 2006 - 9:55 AM
- - playr158   its very worth doing for the pro-n/a moderate powe...   Feb 7, 2006 - 11:45 AM
- - celicaST   thanks for keeping this thread alive degh, some go...   Feb 7, 2006 - 12:07 PM
- - playr158   2ZZ-GE Displacement (cc) 1795 Bore x Stroke(m...   Feb 7, 2006 - 12:28 PM
- - BBoYRuGGeD   i saw that same info dan but i cant seem to find t...   Feb 7, 2006 - 12:39 PM
- - BBoYRuGGeD   yah the 3sgte is cast iron block....tougher but he...   Feb 7, 2006 - 12:50 PM
- - playr158   A RWD 3SGE complete (no clutch or exhaust manifold...   Feb 7, 2006 - 12:52 PM
- - purplegt4   cool look what else i found -> Toyota Corolla ...   Feb 8, 2006 - 12:48 AM
- - purplegt4   "The torque increase from variable valve timi...   Feb 8, 2006 - 2:34 AM
- - presure2   ok guys, i just deleted 5 PAGES of junk. Lets kee...   Feb 8, 2006 - 10:29 AM
- - playr158   thank you manny! i thought i would add in one...   Feb 8, 2006 - 11:08 AM
- - Smaay   wow, i cant believe i never seen this thread befor...   Jun 22, 2012 - 11:34 AM


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