 Autocrossing and parts. |
 Feb 23, 2004 - 8:54 PM
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Are our cars known for autocrossing? I just found a Tein suspension kit and Suspension Tech sway bar set at Nopi. Is it worth getting to make our cars handle better? I know Rally was popular with the GT-4s. Is there a big difference between the two cars suspension wise? ST vs. GT-4?
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Feb 23, 2004 - 9:59 PM
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Yes, both the ST and the GT have won several national championships in the stock category. EvilSpeedToe and I think they would also be good contenders in the STS category as well, though National level success hasn't happened... yet. 
It really depends on what you are after. If you only want to be competitive at the local level, you really don't need anything at all except a set of good autox tires. The 6gc celica handles pretty darn well out of the box. I suppose it wouldn't hurt to freshen up the bushings and struts and stuff, but if you are just now starting out, I would recommend going to some driving schools. Most local regions have a school at the beginning of the year, so they are probably taking sign-ups about now. You will see the most gain on course by learning. From my experience, autox is about 80% driving, 10% mental, and 10% car. Ymmv, but I think a school will pay more dividends than a suspension package... especially starting out. Now, if you are after a Divisional or National trophy, you are going to need some work. For that you are better off tossing that Tein crap in the trash and getting custom spring rates from Ground Control and custom valved dampeners from Koni. Now, honestly, I am not bashing Tein, here. They make good stuff from what I hear, but if you want that last couple tenths of a second, then you need a custom setup for an autox application. Will you see some gains on-course from a Tein kit... probably, maybe. But look, the car is great for autocrossing right out of the box. It is light, the GT has killer torque down low, and the ST has the gearing advantage for a lot of courses (that I wish I had), transitions are great, braking is great, acceleration is about as good as it gets for a one-wheel drive wonder.
I am under the impression that the GT-4s have the SuperStrut suspension, which was designed to keep the camber static while cornering. It didn't seem to work very well. Not only did the WRC cars switch to double-wishbones mid-season, but it made alignments on the street cars a real nightmare. (This is just my impression from reading about the cars, so take that with a grain of salt) The ST/GT have MacPhearson struts, which is a tried and true way to go about things. Do a search on SuperStrut if you want to learn more about the GT-4 suspension. |
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7A-FEces Autocrossing and parts. Feb 23, 2004 - 8:54 PM
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