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> anyone else see the pacers vs pistons fans brawl??
post Nov 20, 2004 - 1:21 AM
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that was freaking mind boggling ive never seen anything like that before!!


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post Nov 20, 2004 - 1:35 AM
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I agree! That was crazy! The best part is when that Pacer player drops that fan on the court with that punch...so awesome! tongue.gif


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post Nov 20, 2004 - 1:40 AM
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i didn't see anything..butta i just turned on sportscenter. but, WTF???

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post Nov 20, 2004 - 1:43 AM
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I was at Hooters all night, and every time they showed that clip we had our whole party of 15 yelling and the whole rest of the restaurant was getting pumped too. They musta repeated it like 5 times while we were there. Wow it was quite a fight.
post Nov 20, 2004 - 1:54 AM
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happened literally 5 minutes from my house, i live right down the street from the palace haha some crazy crazy stuff... i loved the breakdown sportscenter did with all the arrows and pausing it and pointing out who gets clocked and when lol it was hilarious... it sux theyre probably going to have to get rid of courtside seating and put some sort of barrier between the court and the field after this season. i cant wait till christmas day, detroit plays indy in indy smile.gif


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post Nov 20, 2004 - 2:09 AM
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god that was the most amazing thing i've seen in quite some time...i LOVE seen people flip and jackin other peeps...awesome...


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post Nov 20, 2004 - 2:27 AM
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ha that player is so gonna get thrown out of the league thats like the number one rule is not to hit a fan!! hit another player and get fined i bet but hit a fan and get thrown out

id be saying i was injured pretty bad if i was those fans



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post Nov 20, 2004 - 3:07 AM
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This was the sickest thing I have ever seen in my life. I've been a long time die hard NBA fan and I've never seen anything like it. It is disgusting and right now I am stunned. To see people cheering for the brawl to continue and for fans to keep instigating stuff with the fans really disgusts me.
post Nov 20, 2004 - 3:10 AM
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mob mentality... one guy started the whole thing. i personally feel artest is a professional and shouldnt have reacted as he did. but then again, he was assulted and legally had the right to defend himself... those fans were HELLA surprised when they saw him jump off the table lol


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post Nov 20, 2004 - 3:17 AM
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boosted_K2,

I feel the same way man. Artest is a professional but the beer being thrown at him was uncalled for. I put a lot of the blame on the security at the arena. The fan that threw the beer at Artest should be charged with instigating a riot and banned from all NBA games. Knowing Artest's rep as being the bad boy of the league, I'm going to have to side with him on this one. I think that Stephen Jackson should be suspended for the rest of the season. He and Jermaine O'Neal are going to be having big lawsuits coming their way. I can understand that they were sticking up for their teammate but they need to realize that even in the heat of the moment, they are professionals.
post Nov 20, 2004 - 3:22 AM
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no ammount of police and security can control an arena of 40,000 + people. they did the best they could at controling it but if that many people want to get into it, nothing short of the armed national guard could prevent it.


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post Nov 20, 2004 - 3:26 AM
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not to mention how completely unnecessary it was for artest to just lay down on the scorers table.


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post Nov 20, 2004 - 3:27 AM
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But the thing is, it started in one particular section in the arena. When punches were being thrown in that section by Artest and Jackson, I did not see one law enforcement officer in sight. The usage of mase would have been ugly, but it would have prevented this entire debacle. The fans of Detriot are classless and this is a very sad day in the NBA world. The NBA now needs to look at reevaluating the way fan seats and benches are set up as well as having additional security on hand to prevent this from ever happening again.
post Nov 20, 2004 - 3:38 AM
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lol it just goes to show alcohol at sporting events is a bad idea. and you can say the same thing about fans in numerous other cities where things like this have happened, this isnt the first and wont be the last time fans and players have gotten into fights. The palace of auburn hills has the best atmosphere of any sporting arena ive ever been to, and ive been to alot. the same thing could have happened at any city where theres a very emotional drawn out rivalry.


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post Nov 20, 2004 - 3:41 AM
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for anyone interested the game is being replayed on ESPN 2 (its in the 2nd quarter right now) and also on Fox sports (just about to start the 4th quarter). the fight is with 49 seconds to go in the game


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post Nov 20, 2004 - 3:46 AM
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QUOTE(boosted_K2 @ Nov 20, 2004 - 8:38 AM)
lol it just goes to show alcohol at sporting events is a bad idea. and you can say the same thing about fans in numerous other cities where things like this have happened, this isnt the first and wont be the last time fans and players have gotten into fights. The palace of auburn hills has the best atmosphere of any sporting arena ive ever been to, and ive been to alot. the same thing could have happened at any city where theres a very emotional drawn out rivalry.
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Can't disagree with you there. In the heat of the moment, anything can happen. Add alcohol to the mix and that just makes it worse. Just because fans buy tickets which pays for the player's salaries, that gives them no right to abuse a fellow human being. The NBA should take steps in making different fanzone sections. It has worked here at the University of Hawaii where brawls between opposing teams and fans are not unusual. They put fans that choose to drink in a separate section so that mom and dad and the family dont have to hear the profane things shouted. Also, beer sales are stopped at half time. These things will always happen but there are always measures that can be put in place to prevent such an ugly thing like this. What ever happen to the decency of human beings?
post Nov 20, 2004 - 3:51 AM
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that is a very interesting and intelligent way to deal with alcohol at sporting events.

im not saying that they can or should assult players. ive always felt that just because they are atheletes in sporting events it shouldnt suspend regular laws. ive always felt that some of the stuff that goes on at sporting events between opponents and other people is not punished severly enough, just because they are at a game doesnt mean they have the right to assult eachother outside the rules of the game. i think there should have been arrests at the event tonight and definatly more than one person should be spending the night in jail.


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post Nov 20, 2004 - 4:08 AM
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QUOTE(boosted_K2 @ Nov 20, 2004 - 8:51 AM)
that is a very interesting and intelligent way to deal with alcohol at sporting events.

im not saying that they can or should assult players. ive always felt that just because they are atheletes in sporting events it shouldnt suspend regular laws. ive always felt that some of the stuff that goes on at sporting events between opponents and other people is not punished severly enough, just because they are at a game doesnt mean they have the right to assult eachother outside the rules of the game. i think there should have been arrests at the event tonight and definatly more than one person should be spending the night in jail.
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I totally agree with you 100%.

Heres my little vent, gotta get it out.

Regardless if they're a fan or a player, arrests should have been made. I don't understand why sporting events have different rules. If any of this chaos would have happened in an office or in a local bar, people would be arrested. Same with the heckling and jeers. I hear a lot of sick things being yelled at players ie. racism, comments about their family, threats. Yet people say it's a part of the atmosphere. Paying $30 for a measly ticket apparently makes it ok to get piss drunk and yell obsenities at players who are just doing their jobs.
post Nov 20, 2004 - 4:11 AM
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agreed.

side note: 3 minutes to go, fox sports. about 2:10 left till the game actually ends.


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post Nov 20, 2004 - 4:53 AM
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Heres a link to the vid for any that missed it....

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