Removing power steering Options

[95ST]

Im getting ready to do alittle work on my car, and I was thinking of removing the power steering. For weight reduction, and free power. Has anyone ran the celicas without power steering? If you have how do you like it? How did you do it, my integra I took the pump out and essentially looped the 2 lines with a T in them with a reservior on it to allow for the preasure to be reduced. Any advice? thx

[playr158]

its not fun for one...no power steering really sucks if its your daily driver and you don't take it to the track....then don't do it..you don't "gain" enough to justify a pain in the arse time driving around w/o it..not to mention our racks arn't designed to go without power

[Defgeph]

If its a daily driver dont remove it. Just not worth the hassle everyday. I dont have PS in my car, but I drive it about 4 hours a week. If I'm lucky.

If you are looking to squeeze a few ponies out. Get a cold air intake, header, and exhaust. If you do that you'll totally forget about removing the power steering.

[Mynzeyes]

removing the power steering from a car that is designed for it is horrible for it, and idiotic. the gears and teeth are not meant to be under the stress, and it will wear out a LOT quicker. and then you get to change that. that'd be fun. .

This post has been edited by Mynzeyes: Jul 24, 2006 - 11:03 AM

[95ST]

Its only driven about 50-60 miles a week, Im looking to make it a little more fun without spending alot of money, I ran my acura like that for a year without problems, and as far as I know it was driven for about a year after that without problems untill it was totalled. But if it is terrible without the power steering I probably wont do it. This is one of those things I wish I could try to see if I liked it without spending money since it is reversable.

removing the power steering from a car that is designed for it is horrible for it, and idiotic. the gears and teeth are not meant to be under the stress, and it will wear out a LOT quicker. and then you get to change that. that'd be fun. .

How is it idiotic?
Has anyone ever switched a manual steering rack from a corolla or other car into a celica?

[Mynzeyes]

Its only driven about 50-60 miles a week, Im looking to make it a little more fun without spending alot of money, I ran my acura like that for a year without problems, and as far as I know it was driven for about a year after that without problems untill it was totalled. But if it is terrible without the power steering I probably wont do it. This is one of those things I wish I could try to see if I liked it without spending money since it is reversable.

removing the power steering from a car that is designed for it is horrible for it, and idiotic. the gears and teeth are not meant to be under the stress, and it will wear out a LOT quicker. and then you get to change that. that'd be fun. .

How is it idiotic?
Has anyone ever switched a manual steering rack from a corolla or other car into a celica?

bc it ruins it. they are designed to be power-assisted. trying to re-engineer something that has been tested over and over, and designed to be a certain way. when you change it with shade-tree mechanictry, it won't last. that is how it's idiotic. besides, you won't save enough weight to notice a difference. it takes 200-300lbs in order to shave 1/10th off of your quarter mile time.

[brianforster]

its only worth it in a VERY light car (was fun in my friends old old 318) otherwise your gonna spend any moment that could have been enjoying your new HP cursing your steering wheel for being so hard to move

[95ST]

Please dont take me as ignorant, I am trying to make a legit question out of this...

Im not looking to shave times off my quater mile. My last car was an integra which I built up for auto cross. I used this kit
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=563116
to remove my power steering. Yes in parking lots it was harder to turn, at speed however the steering felt better in my opinion. This is a very common mod in the honda scene with good reliable results.

I have already lifted the carpeting, and removed the sound deadening. The usual I dont carry a spare tire around town, no subs, no abs, light weight 15" rims, clutch/flywheel, intake and exhaust.

My Air Conditioning is comming out, as it is damaged and would be expensive to repair. So I was thinking at the same time I could remove the power steering, That would be removing 2 pumps, and all the additional parts for each. There is a significant weight savings there.

Is there something different about the toyota steering rack that would make this not a reliable setup?

[soulshadow]

Take it from someone who drove for 1/2 a year without P/S. It is not fun at all. Turning corners was harder then he11. Without the P/S I probbaly saw like 10HP increase, but to have sore arms? Its not worth the pain. Hondas are typically lighter than Toyotas, thus eliminating P/S on them is already like driving with P/S.

[Punch]

to take out your power steering??? why your car is no HONDA plus it weigh about 7lbs if that much....

[SpoonR530]

If your taking out the AC as well it might be worth it. If its personal preference, the only way to see is to find out for yourself. Its to bad no one answered your question at all but i bet if you did your research you could find out how to do it. I say check it out, u can always go back. I have had two cars with out PS and it really isnt as big of a deal as all these guys are saying, but you already know that. Good luck bud....

This post has been edited by SpoonR530: Aug 11, 2006 - 12:06 PM

[Hanyo]

to take out your power steering??? why your car is no HONDA plus it weigh about 7lbs if that much....

the ps pump actually weights quite a bit..

all i can say is.. remove the ps belt and try it out for a few weeks. (just the belt)


if you dont like it... then re-install the belt.

[Supersprynt]

I took mine out, and put it back in 2 days later, its horrible w/o PS.