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Enthusiast ![]() Joined Oct 3, '02 From HOUSTON Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
ok, now that there are a few more st205 3sgte's going into gt celicas, it seems to be that they are a lot easier swap than the st185, correct me if im wrong, but according to what ive been searching, wiring, the main headache in the swaps, seems to be a breeze, but i havent seen anything involving the st. what i want to know is are there any more of a difference between in swapping that 3s into the gt or st, other than tranny, because i already plan on changing that out? mounts are still usable correct? and mainly wiring, if i plan on keeping ac and all that. if anyone could shed some light on that for me that would be great!
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swaping in an st185 or st205 is the same amount of work. the only diffference is that there is a lot less wiring that has to be done with the st205. ive yet to see anyone verify what needs to be rewired, but just from looking at the wiring diagrams, i think all you need to rewire is the COR and fuel pump relay to make it work. with the st185, you can just mail the harness out to a few guys on this site that do wiring, and not really have to worry about it. if u can afford a 205 clip, definetly get that.
read this. it applies to st185 or 205 into an st http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=28825 -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Enthusiast ![]() Joined Oct 3, '02 From HOUSTON Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
also another thing, if i do decide to go this route, anyone wanna do my wiring for me? i live in houston now, but ill ship if need be... ive been flirting with this idea for the past few weeks since ive been running through the site again
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Enthusiast ![]() Joined Oct 3, '02 From HOUSTON Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
well i guess when i say less work, i mean less parts to fetch for, primarily mounts as well as wiring, which was my main concern involving in either swap
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What type of transmission are you planning on useing???
Also, i know Dr. Tweak will do the wireing for you (st185) for $350 + shipping. http://www.phoenixtuning.com/ |
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st mounts will not work with a 3sgte, but that doesn't stop a lot of member with st convert to 3s engines.
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QUOTE(CheesyLobster @ Sep 1, 2006 - 10:04 PM) [snapback]475277[/snapback] st mounts will not work with a 3sgte, but that doesn't stop a lot of member with st convert to 3s engines. Thats right! ![]() |
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I'd be happy to do the wiring for you either way. Even if you do get an ST205, the wiring needs to me changed around a little to be long enough, some things need to be extended, and the C/OPN relay needs to be rewired. A couple other little things, but I can do that for you for like $150 - $200. The ST185 conversion is $350 plus $30 for shipping as mentioned (thanks for the plug Elevindie).
-Doc -------------------- -Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaire Click here to see my swaps drtweak@phoenixtuning.com |
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QUOTE(eggman40 @ Sep 2, 2006 - 1:42 PM) [snapback]475534[/snapback] QUOTE(CheesyLobster @ Sep 1, 2006 - 10:04 PM) [snapback]475277[/snapback] st mounts will not work with a 3sgte, but that doesn't stop a lot of member with st convert to 3s engines. Thats right! ![]() i 2nd that. |
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Enthusiast ![]() Joined Oct 3, '02 From HOUSTON Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
well i understand that, but the mounts that are in the clip from a st205 will work on my chassis, however the 185 mounts will not, am i right? thats what i was talking about
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ST205 has a different subframe the the ST202/4 AT200
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QUOTE(quicknstyle @ Sep 5, 2006 - 2:54 PM) [snapback]476347[/snapback] well i understand that, but the mounts that are in the clip from a st205 will work on my chassis, however the 185 mounts will not, am i right? thats what i was talking about The ST205 mounts are what you need if you are going with the E153 tranny, yes. The ST185 mounts are different. -Doc -------------------- -Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaire Click here to see my swaps drtweak@phoenixtuning.com |
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Enthusiast ![]() Joined Oct 3, '02 From HOUSTON Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
bringing this topic back up, ok so say if planned, i could use the 5s tranny, use the st205 motor mounts but use the gt tranny mount am i right? also i see that more and more people are trusting the 5s tranny more and more, does anyone really know its approximate breaking point?
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Jun 27, '04 From ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) ![]() |
I can help you with the st to st205 wrirng. I don't have ac but lagos has a good post on what needs to be done to make it work thanks 6gc. Lance
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