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post Aug 31, 2006 - 1:02 PM
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ok, now that there are a few more st205 3sgte's going into gt celicas, it seems to be that they are a lot easier swap than the st185, correct me if im wrong, but according to what ive been searching, wiring, the main headache in the swaps, seems to be a breeze, but i havent seen anything involving the st. what i want to know is are there any more of a difference between in swapping that 3s into the gt or st, other than tranny, because i already plan on changing that out? mounts are still usable correct? and mainly wiring, if i plan on keeping ac and all that. if anyone could shed some light on that for me that would be great!
post Aug 31, 2006 - 1:10 PM
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swaping in an st185 or st205 is the same amount of work. the only diffference is that there is a lot less wiring that has to be done with the st205. ive yet to see anyone verify what needs to be rewired, but just from looking at the wiring diagrams, i think all you need to rewire is the COR and fuel pump relay to make it work. with the st185, you can just mail the harness out to a few guys on this site that do wiring, and not really have to worry about it. if u can afford a 205 clip, definetly get that.

read this. it applies to st185 or 205 into an st
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=28825


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post Aug 31, 2006 - 1:10 PM
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also another thing, if i do decide to go this route, anyone wanna do my wiring for me? i live in houston now, but ill ship if need be... ive been flirting with this idea for the past few weeks since ive been running through the site again
post Aug 31, 2006 - 1:23 PM
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well i guess when i say less work, i mean less parts to fetch for, primarily mounts as well as wiring, which was my main concern involving in either swap
post Sep 1, 2006 - 3:37 PM
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What type of transmission are you planning on useing???

Also, i know Dr. Tweak will do the wireing for you (st185) for $350 + shipping. http://www.phoenixtuning.com/

post Sep 1, 2006 - 5:04 PM
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st mounts will not work with a 3sgte, but that doesn't stop a lot of member with st convert to 3s engines.
post Sep 2, 2006 - 3:42 PM
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QUOTE(CheesyLobster @ Sep 1, 2006 - 10:04 PM) [snapback]475277[/snapback]

st mounts will not work with a 3sgte, but that doesn't stop a lot of member with st convert to 3s engines.



Thats right! biggrin.gif
post Sep 2, 2006 - 8:20 PM
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I'd be happy to do the wiring for you either way. Even if you do get an ST205, the wiring needs to me changed around a little to be long enough, some things need to be extended, and the C/OPN relay needs to be rewired. A couple other little things, but I can do that for you for like $150 - $200. The ST185 conversion is $350 plus $30 for shipping as mentioned (thanks for the plug Elevindie).

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post Sep 5, 2006 - 7:22 AM
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QUOTE(eggman40 @ Sep 2, 2006 - 1:42 PM) [snapback]475534[/snapback]

QUOTE(CheesyLobster @ Sep 1, 2006 - 10:04 PM) [snapback]475277[/snapback]

st mounts will not work with a 3sgte, but that doesn't stop a lot of member with st convert to 3s engines.



Thats right! biggrin.gif



i 2nd that.
post Sep 5, 2006 - 9:54 AM
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well i understand that, but the mounts that are in the clip from a st205 will work on my chassis, however the 185 mounts will not, am i right? thats what i was talking about
post Sep 5, 2006 - 10:31 AM
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ST205 has a different subframe the the ST202/4 AT200


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post Sep 5, 2006 - 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(quicknstyle @ Sep 5, 2006 - 2:54 PM) [snapback]476347[/snapback]

well i understand that, but the mounts that are in the clip from a st205 will work on my chassis, however the 185 mounts will not, am i right? thats what i was talking about


The ST205 mounts are what you need if you are going with the E153 tranny, yes. The ST185 mounts are different.

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post Sep 22, 2006 - 5:38 PM
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bringing this topic back up, ok so say if planned, i could use the 5s tranny, use the st205 motor mounts but use the gt tranny mount am i right? also i see that more and more people are trusting the 5s tranny more and more, does anyone really know its approximate breaking point?
post Sep 25, 2006 - 3:55 PM
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I can help you with the st to st205 wrirng. I don't have ac but lagos has a good post on what needs to be done to make it work thanks 6gc. Lance

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