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post Jul 24, 2004 - 12:27 PM
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QUOTE (Negative @ Jul 24, 2004 - 5:12 AM)
You know - all of you know-it-alls suck. I personally believe that those times are possible even in an ST. Your skill as a driver can make our "slow" cars much faster than they would be with a driver with no skill.

BTW - if our cars are so slow and there is nothing we can do to change that except swap in a 3S-GTE then everyone on here without a 3S is a complete moron for wasting the kind of money we all do on a car that will always be "slow". Personally - I'm not an idiot but I think some of you are.

I agree with some parts... but everything you've said is in your opinion... and however much you believe it, it doesn't mean everyone will take your word for it. You may feel your car is fast... but that all depends on what your opinion of fast is. Exaggeration is always prominent and NOTHING is certain without real-world testing. It's not hard to just say things... so you gotta be able to back it up somehow, beyond simply asking people to take your word for it. I'll be one to say right now, our cars do what they're designed to do... and those who try and street-race with these cars, when equipped with these motors just don't understand what these cars are. They're designed to look fast... but technically speaking... they're slow (only as fast as trucks and vans at best). Road and Track in 1995 rated the Celica GT in the 1/4 mile at 16.4 under a professional driver. ANYONE that claims to hit better than that, are either mildly modified, or using the butt-meter and a stopwatch... Those who only "claim" are even less believeable... All in all, no matter how good the driver is... there is no way for the driver to make the car out-perform its maximum capability. The car has limits... and a driver cannot push the car beyond that. That's why people don't believe things like, "I can run 16's STOCK!" when EVERYONE else is running 17's and 18's... it's technically not probable... not impossible, but for the most part, highly highly improbable, especially when the "claimee" tends to sound completely unknowledgable about these sorts of things.

Finally... our cars are slow... no matter how you look at it... unless you consider minivans and full-sized trucks fast, which in many cases, are faster than our cars. In closing... you have to choose your words more carefully... EVERYONE that says these cars are slow, DO NOT refer to the car in general. The car itself doesn't go fast... the engine makes the car go... The ENGINE is what makes these cars slow... so your final argument is meaningless... A 3SGTE will make these cars sub 13 second cars on stock boost, assuming you have the skill to launch the car... that'll basically make them almost as fast as Corvettes... which is pretty fast...


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post Jul 24, 2004 - 1:18 PM
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thank you
post Jul 27, 2004 - 6:31 PM
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yeh i dont think you kan do a 16.1 my best time was a 17.6 on 17 inch tires launchin @ 4500 rpms
post Jul 27, 2004 - 9:31 PM
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QUOTE (trdevelopment @ Jul 27, 2004 - 6:31 PM)
yeh i dont think you kan do a 16.1 my best time was a 17.6 on 17 inch tires launchin @ 4500 rpms

If my friggin car was STOCK I'd show the half-wits on how to launch a friggin car...I will be at the new Import Wars if anyone wants to come watch.

BTW,my grandma can run 17.6...in her shoes.


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post Jul 27, 2004 - 9:48 PM
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QUOTE (97Celica @ Jul 28, 2004 - 2:31 AM)
If my friggin car was STOCK I'd show the half-wits on how to launch a friggin car...I will be at the new Import Wars if anyone wants to come watch.

BTW,my grandma can run 17.6...in her shoes.

heheh... says how much you know about some of the folks here...

anyways... all you gotta do is get a slip... how about at the Import Wars? Prove us all wrong.


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post Apr 22, 2008 - 6:49 AM
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QUOTE(97Celica @ Jul 21, 2004 - 4:06 PM) [snapback]161451[/snapback]

As I have offered MANY a TIMES, Anyone who thinks I talk ****,come to NH, I will even pay your gas $ and race me. I love to beat smart asses..esp people named Shid :-)


we might have to go and test this, im 10 minutes from the epping drag what are you doing wednesday nights?
post Apr 22, 2008 - 1:43 PM
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too bad I drive a 00 GT-S 6-speed now buddy tongue.gif

I'd be 1/2 way down the track before you launched.


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