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> I am just going to run low boost. . . yea right!, A warning for anyone who wants to boost a 5sfe
post Apr 6, 2016 - 12:21 AM
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HardHead93

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This is a cautionary tale to anyone who thinks they are going to slap a turbo on a high mileage engine and run low boost. DON’T DO IT! In December of 2014 despite all the posts that say, don’t boost your engine unless it is low mileage or rebuilt, I went for it. Is the 5sfe a great engine to boost, yes, but do it right. This post will tell the LONG, expensive, frustrating story to creating my 5sfte. The below write up is what happened.

Background
It has been a long road for this 5sfte build. Here is the engine I started with:


I saw what Supershannon77 did with an Ebay T3/4 turbo for her 6th gen Celica 5sfte and I tried to duplicate it (with a few upgrades). I bought an Ebay kit with the idea that I would need to modify or replace some of the parts that came in it but the bottom line was it would give me a turbo, intercooler, exhaust manifold, downpipe, and some miscellaneous needed parts.

As I started the build I found the kit seriously lacking. The big one was the downpipe was for a CT26 turbo not a T3/4 so I had to order one. There was no oil return line and there was not enough intercooler piping. It took 3 months to resolve all the issues with the advertised “bolt-on” kit (there is no such thing as bolt on from Ebay), I ended up with the following build:


8 psi boost
T3/T04E Turbo
Turbosmart Wastegate
2.5 inch full exhaust
Magnaflow Muffler and Catalytic Converter
AEM FIC Piggyback
SSQV Blow Off Valve
460cc RX-7 Injectors
FMIC
Walpro 255 Fuel Pump
3sgte 3 Bar MAP Sensor
Custom downpipe from Demon Motorsports
Ebay tubular exhaust manifold

I started noticing when I would pop the hood after a drive that there was an extreme amount of heat coming out of the engine bay. I also saw that the under hood insulation was burning away. After doing some digging, I found that the tubular manifold I was using was giving off too much heat instead of shooting it down to the exhaust. I needed a 3sgte manifold. I went to the Toyota dealership and they told me that all their warehouses are out of stock and that the best bet was to find a used one. That led to one option, Ebay. After about a week of missing out on bids I finally scored a 3sgte manifold. It arrived and I was so excited, I ceramic coated it and put it on and the car was back!


Then another problem reared its head, the clutch started slipping. I bought a SPEC stage 2 clutch, got it installed and the car ran like a champ. In the process of tuning the car, I sprung a fuel leak that lead to an engine fire. I think it the Walpro fuel pump put too much pressure on the original lines coming from the fuel filter and something popped.




Now here I am, where I should have started. In hindsight I should have rebuilt the engine before going down the turbo route. My plan was to fix the fire damage and rebuild the engine to a 14-15 psi boost-able monster. My goal is 280-300 horsepower. Based on what I saw in Pressure2’s build, I can use stock pistons and rods but I will need a metal head gasket. I planned to swap the California cylinder head with a Federal head so the fuel injectors fit perfectly.

Posts in this topic
- HardHead93   I am just going to run low boost. . . yea right!   Apr 6, 2016 - 12:21 AM
- - lagos   1. The ecu is slightly different between the auto...   Sep 26, 2016 - 5:50 PM
- - slavie   Thanks for sharing the experience. Having perform...   Oct 6, 2016 - 10:29 AM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (slavie @ Oct 6, 2016 - 10:29 ...   Oct 6, 2016 - 10:53 PM
- - HardHead93   Does anyone have any tips for cleaning and paintin...   Oct 10, 2016 - 2:40 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (HardHead93 @ Oct 10, 2016 - 3...   Oct 11, 2016 - 6:20 PM
- - HardHead93   I am really excited my 4th gen 3sgte came in today...   Oct 11, 2016 - 6:26 PM
|- - xman92   Wow, you are relentless.. Can't wait for this ...   Oct 22, 2016 - 6:39 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (xman92 @ Oct 22, 2016 - 7:39 ...   Oct 25, 2016 - 8:18 PM
- - slavie   Nice! Some will argue that auto engines are b...   Oct 15, 2016 - 7:34 PM
- - HardHead93   I got the valve cover off and the wiring sent off ...   Oct 16, 2016 - 10:06 AM
- - HardHead93   I have started the process of breaking down the en...   Oct 25, 2016 - 8:34 PM
- - lagos   Keep up the great work!   Oct 26, 2016 - 11:53 AM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (lagos @ Oct 26, 2016 - 12:53 ...   Oct 26, 2016 - 9:48 PM
- - HardHead93   I got some of my goodies in for the swap. There i...   Oct 26, 2016 - 9:56 PM
- - HardHead93   Just got my valve cover back after being powder co...   Oct 27, 2016 - 9:32 PM
- - HardHead93   I got all my wiring back from Wiregap and it look...   Nov 12, 2016 - 12:16 PM
- - HardHead93   I was excited and ready to do this thing! I h...   Nov 12, 2016 - 9:43 PM
- - HardHead93   Got the wiring, intercooler piping and radiator in...   Nov 16, 2016 - 9:39 PM
- - HardHead93   I have everything hooked up and the car will not s...   Nov 17, 2016 - 10:00 PM
- - slavie   If it won't even crank, something is not getti...   Nov 18, 2016 - 5:31 PM
- - richee3   Does everything work inside the car besides the ga...   Nov 18, 2016 - 9:40 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (richee3 @ Nov 18, 2016 - 10:4...   Nov 19, 2016 - 10:12 AM
- - HardHead93   I replaced the ignition switch and starter relay, ...   Nov 19, 2016 - 10:27 PM
- - HardHead93   After testing wires then looking at wiring diagram...   Nov 20, 2016 - 3:19 PM
|- - xman92   Like a soap opera. Can't wait for the next epi...   Nov 20, 2016 - 6:25 PM
- - HardHead93   I have finally gotten the car completely back toge...   Nov 23, 2016 - 2:09 AM
- - HardHead93   I have been driving the car for the last few days ...   Nov 29, 2016 - 11:00 PM
- - HardHead93   Here are some pics of the car with the 4th gen 3sg...   Dec 2, 2016 - 12:06 PM
- - richee3   Looks awesome, glad you get it running right!   Dec 2, 2016 - 12:51 PM
- - HardHead93   Here is a video walk around. ENJOY! https://y...   Dec 2, 2016 - 1:59 PM
- - HardHead93   I just went out for a little bit of spirited drivi...   Dec 3, 2016 - 4:03 PM
|- - richee3   QUOTE (HardHead93 @ Dec 3, 2016 - 3...   Dec 3, 2016 - 4:53 PM
|- - HardHead93   Haha! I just turned the boost up to 12 psi to...   Dec 4, 2016 - 3:56 PM
|- - DarkDeath   QUOTE (HardHead93 @ Dec 4, 2016 - 3...   Dec 13, 2016 - 1:52 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (DarkDeath @ Dec 13, 2016 - 2...   Dec 27, 2016 - 2:02 AM
- - HardHead93   Within the last few days I started getting a whine...   Dec 10, 2016 - 10:09 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (HardHead93 @ Dec 10, 2016 - 11...   Dec 12, 2016 - 10:45 PM
- - HardHead93   And the saga continues. . . . . I was struggli...   Dec 31, 2016 - 8:33 PM
- - enderswift   It's really hard to kill a 3SGTE. They can tak...   Jan 1, 2017 - 3:01 PM
|- - HardHead93   Thanks for the information. I am wondering what w...   Jan 1, 2017 - 5:15 PM
- - jordisonjr   I would definitely contact the company that sold y...   Jan 3, 2017 - 9:54 AM
- - HardHead93   So after a lot of cussing, kicking, and screaming,...   Jan 13, 2017 - 8:29 PM
- - HardHead93   So I am part way through getting the motor ready f...   Jan 15, 2017 - 8:18 PM
- - slavie   I hope you were able to get at least some money/di...   Jan 16, 2017 - 1:25 AM
- - HardHead93   I feel like I have been here before. . . Oh wait,...   Jan 17, 2017 - 11:42 AM
- - Wild202   Good luck to you. Perhaps it was necessary to imme...   Jan 17, 2017 - 12:15 PM
- - HardHead93   I have the engine back in the car, here is a video...   Jan 21, 2017 - 1:49 PM
|- - slavie   QUOTE (HardHead93 @ Jan 21, 2017 - 2...   Jan 21, 2017 - 11:39 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (slavie @ Jan 21, 2017 - 11:39...   Jan 22, 2017 - 10:49 AM
- - Wild202   Do not you have disassembled the engine before put...   Jan 22, 2017 - 12:24 PM
- - HardHead93   I dropped the upper and lower oil pan. Then I che...   Jan 23, 2017 - 11:25 PM
- - Wild202   Why sealant black? At Toyota it is usually red.   Jan 24, 2017 - 1:17 AM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (Wild202 @ Jan 24, 2017 - 2:17...   Jan 24, 2017 - 4:40 PM
- - slavie   That engine looks squeaky clean. All you gotta do...   Jan 24, 2017 - 8:58 PM
- - HardHead93   The car is now back together and running. I just ...   Jan 25, 2017 - 11:21 PM
- - HardHead93   So I have engine #2 in the car and running. Here ...   Jan 27, 2017 - 10:11 AM
|- - HardHead93   So I found this old thread on oil catch cans. htt...   Jan 31, 2017 - 8:42 AM
- - slavie   I'm not sure if I have this topic completely u...   Jan 31, 2017 - 1:55 PM
|- - HardHead93   Sealed catch can it is. Thanks for the help!   Jan 31, 2017 - 4:42 PM
- - HardHead93   QUOTE (HardHead93 @ Jan 22, 2017 - 11...   Feb 1, 2017 - 10:29 PM
- - 95celgt   had fun reading this thread, sad to hear you are n...   Feb 4, 2017 - 5:56 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (95celgt @ Feb 4, 2017 - 5:56 ...   Feb 4, 2017 - 8:05 PM
- - HardHead93   I decided not to sell my Celica because I drove it...   Feb 14, 2017 - 9:31 PM
- - Box   With as much time and work you've put into the...   Feb 15, 2017 - 12:00 AM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (Box @ Feb 15, 2017 - 1:00 AM)...   Feb 15, 2017 - 8:34 AM
- - Box   Well best case scenario keeping the spare motor al...   Feb 15, 2017 - 3:01 PM
|- - HardHead93   Everyone, thanks for all the encouragement. This ...   Feb 15, 2017 - 3:39 PM
- - cheela   glad you're keeping it. I've been reading ...   Feb 15, 2017 - 3:26 PM
- - Box   The VG30DE is a good motor, and so is the VG30DETT...   Feb 15, 2017 - 5:22 PM
- - HardHead93   I got my Innovate SCG-1 Boost Controller in last W...   Feb 19, 2017 - 5:37 PM
- - HardHead93   So I have been playing around with my electronic b...   Feb 26, 2017 - 12:29 AM
- - Box   I currently have 275/40-17 BF Goodrich Sport COMP-...   Feb 26, 2017 - 9:38 PM
|- - richee3   QUOTE (Box @ Feb 26, 2017 - 8:38 PM)...   Mar 1, 2017 - 9:33 PM
- - slavie   The function you want is boost by gear, but it doe...   Feb 27, 2017 - 9:57 AM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (slavie @ Feb 27, 2017 - 10:57...   Feb 27, 2017 - 12:39 PM
- - cheela   well if you're getting new tires/wheels anyway...   Feb 27, 2017 - 2:17 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (cheela @ Feb 27, 2017 - 3:17 ...   Feb 27, 2017 - 11:00 PM
- - Box   I've been really happy with mine and how they...   Mar 1, 2017 - 10:35 PM
- - HardHead93   So I have been enjoying the car with the swapped m...   Mar 7, 2017 - 10:57 PM
- - Box   Check the Sunoco Fuel site for any Sunoco stations...   Mar 8, 2017 - 12:40 AM
- - HardHead93   After spending last weekend on the track losing tr...   Mar 24, 2017 - 9:26 PM
- - Box   With 275/40-17 Sport COMP-2's on 9.5" wid...   Mar 25, 2017 - 2:25 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (Box @ Mar 25, 2017 - 2:25 PM)...   Mar 25, 2017 - 7:02 PM
- - Box   It's a summer performance tire, and really it...   Mar 25, 2017 - 8:00 PM
- - slavie   Don't get all-season tires for track - you...   Mar 28, 2017 - 9:00 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (slavie @ Mar 28, 2017 - 10:00...   Mar 28, 2017 - 9:49 PM
- - HardHead93   UPS just dropped off my wheels. They look sweet...   Mar 28, 2017 - 9:52 PM
- - HardHead93   I got the wheels and tires on the car and they loo...   Mar 31, 2017 - 7:49 PM
- - Box   Wooooo fitting! I bet it handles a lot better...   Apr 1, 2017 - 1:42 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (Box @ Apr 1, 2017 - 1:42 PM) ...   Apr 1, 2017 - 6:11 PM
- - Box   That's good, I noticed a big improvement in ha...   Apr 1, 2017 - 6:30 PM
- - HardHead93   The next upgrade I am looking to do is with the tu...   Apr 4, 2017 - 10:06 PM
|- - HardHead93   After doing some research, I found only one issue ...   Apr 9, 2017 - 9:24 PM
- - Box   Since you have the cat and glasspack you could see...   Apr 9, 2017 - 11:57 PM
- - slavie   There's a lot of ideas going around on 2.5 vs ...   Apr 10, 2017 - 5:25 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (slavie @ Apr 10, 2017 - 6:25 ...   Apr 10, 2017 - 10:16 PM
- - HardHead93   So it has been a little bit since my last update. ...   May 14, 2017 - 9:11 AM
- - Bitter   Oh for ****s sake that sucks. Why you no port an...   May 14, 2017 - 12:35 PM
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