 Top Fuel Turbo Conversion, Where can I get it?? |
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 Apr 5, 2004 - 2:11 PM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Apr 17, '03 From Cork, Republic of Ireland Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
Looking at the parts database, I see the Top Fuel Turbo Conversion listed for the ST202 3SGE, which is what I have.
I desperately want this kit and have the cash waiting, does anyone have a link to where I can get it? Preferably in Europe but if not just anywhere that stocks it! I've been trying for the last few weeks and nobody has heard of it. Any help would be appreciated!!!  
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Apr 5, 2004 - 5:58 PM
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Apr 6, 2004 - 10:19 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 17, '03 From Cork, Republic of Ireland Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Hey man..Appreciate it thanks!!! Kit ordered......
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Apr 6, 2004 - 10:56 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 17, '03 From Cork, Republic of Ireland Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I notice that theres no intercooler with the kit or boost guages.
Anyone know what I can do with this, the kit comes with everything needed to get the car turbo'd, but I assume that I will be needing to get some control over the boost. Any suggestions? This post has been edited by khye: Apr 6, 2004 - 11:44 AM |
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Apr 6, 2004 - 12:01 PM
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Apr 6, 2004 - 12:14 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 17, '03 From Cork, Republic of Ireland Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Cool...well thats the intercooler sorted.
A few more questions though.... Where does this attach to the turbo kit? What is it actually cooling? And what about controlling the boost? Thanks! |
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Apr 6, 2004 - 3:18 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 21, '04 From united kingdom Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hope ur not planning on fitting this urself lol!! the intercooler has 2 main pipe paths, one comes off the turbo and passes to the intercooler core where it is cooled and then passes into the secont pipe which goes into the throttle body. it cools the air from the turbo which is very hot down to around 30 degrees or less ideally before it goes into the throttle body. this is to protect the engine from detonation This post has been edited by uzthedentist: Apr 6, 2004 - 3:21 PM -------------------- GT4 ST205 79 modifications and rising!!
spec list: http://sox-japoc.co.uk/forum/garage.php?mo..._vehicle&CID=10 |
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Apr 6, 2004 - 5:46 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 17, '03 From Cork, Republic of Ireland Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
LOL....I wouldn't even trust myself to change a sparkplug m8.
I dunno really....I'd imagine that its not as straight forward as they are saying it is. I mean surely the engine internals will have to be uprated and the ECU will have to be remapped? Can't just be a simple bolt on Turbo. Anyone have it fitted????? |
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Apr 6, 2004 - 6:43 PM
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Apr 7, 2004 - 2:10 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 17, '03 From Cork, Republic of Ireland Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I got a reply from those suppliers and they were not very helpful in their answer.
I asked what parts come in the Kit. He said "The parts that come in the kit are in the photo" I got no listing of parts from him so I dont really know what to think. The kit says comes with "ALL" the necesary parts needed. Its doesnt include an intercooler so their statement is not correct at all. No mention of the fact that you will have to uprate most of your internals to cope with the extra stress either. I really want to get this kit but its starting to sound like too much trouble and not a simple "bolt on" kit like they are advertising it as. Has anyone here managed to fit this to their car and if so can you tell me if it is as straight forward as they claim? Any help would be appreciated!!!!!!  |
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Apr 7, 2004 - 4:37 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 21, '04 From united kingdom Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
mate theres no such thing as a 'bolt on' kit.
unless ur a mechanic then its much more advisable to buy a car standard with a turbo. with so many st205;s just over in ngland u could ship one over easily, unless ur insurance is like northern ireland that is !!! -------------------- GT4 ST205 79 modifications and rising!!
spec list: http://sox-japoc.co.uk/forum/garage.php?mo..._vehicle&CID=10 |
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Apr 7, 2004 - 5:02 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 17, '03 From Cork, Republic of Ireland Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
But whats the point of producing a product thats made specifically for the 3SGE if its not going to work with it?
I mean if I wanted a GT4 I'd go out and buy one. Can ye people please drop the same old line.....GT4 GT4 GT4.... They are selling this under the name of a ST202 3SGE Bolt on Turbo Kit. For the 3SGE......!!! I just want to know if someone has it installed on their na ST202 and if so what modifications they needed to do. The sales people I've been talking to there are useless! I know what you are saying though, we have a GT4 at home too but I'm only interested in the GT for the time being m8.
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Apr 7, 2004 - 5:33 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 3, '04 From North Carolina Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
did you not already say "kit ordered...." |
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Apr 7, 2004 - 5:35 PM
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If you are only going to run low boost with this kit (i.e. 5psi) you dont really need an intercooler, it is only HIGHLY recommended. Along the same lines, if you run low boost, you dont need to upgrade internals. What this kit gives you is the ability to put boost into your car. Now how much and if its reliable is a different story.
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Apr 7, 2004 - 5:47 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 15, '02 From Corona & Vallejo, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I wish I could help you more with this, but I do not know of anyone that has purchased this kit. Here's what I suggest: Once you get all the parts, list everything you received here on this site. There have been people who performed turbo upgrades by purchasing parts individually. I'm sure someone will be able to help you out. I know that installation can't be too difficult. But you may need to get additional parts (i.e. piping). This may not be a weekend project, but I'm sure that when it's done, you will have one sweet ride. Don't be discouraged. Just have patience mate. It's a learning curve for most of us. There are other sites where you can go to inquire about this as well: www.alltrac.net www.celica.net (Forced Induction forum) www.mr2oc.com (You should be able to learn a lot about installation and what's needed here) Hope this helps. |
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Apr 7, 2004 - 10:27 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 17, '03 From Cork, Republic of Ireland Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Thanks everyone I appreciate it.
I Dont mean to sound sarcastic in my previous thread, just that I have been on the phone to a guy in japan talking about the kit all day long and he does not seem to know anything about it. (What's worse is that he is the salesman )I have a custom intercooler manufacturer pretty close to my home town so that should not be a problem once the time comes I'm after ordering it anyway...I have a 30 day return term arranged with the guy. Just to be on the safe side though, I'm going to be putting on a metal headgasket and probolts to hold it all together. The boost should be pretty low, but enough to make a nice difference hopefully. I asked him what power gains the Display Celica they have in the shop has been measured at and he said 50-80ps (Whats PS??) So that just confused me even more I was looking for a bhp/hp figure. Anyway thanks, I'll let you know how it works out. The buddie has a 1998 Celica ST202 same as mine and he just fitted a Rotrex Supercharger to it...hes getting 230bhp from it now but he did uprate the internals as well as fitting a piggyback ECU. 
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Apr 8, 2004 - 12:25 AM
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the 3SGE is a very strong engine...you shouldn't ahve problems running 7psi intercooled.
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Apr 8, 2004 - 10:56 AM
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Khye, I know you post on the uk club - it might be worth having a chat with Simon (CelicaUK) - he's pretty much done as much as is possible to blow the engine in his Gen 7 140 - at probably double the quoted Bhp using the supercharger setup he devised !! He knows his onions on what the Toyota engines will take on stock internals. He should be able to give some real advice on safe levels of boost etc.. |
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Apr 8, 2004 - 11:41 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 15, '02 From Corona & Vallejo, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
1 PS is roughly equivalent to 0.99 HP. There's a PS to HP calculator on the following link: http://www.mr2ownersclub.com/converter.htm |
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