 3SGTE Swap,what is the easiest GEN to swap? |
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 Aug 6, 2004 - 9:26 AM
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What is the easiest gen to install?? I am looking to purchase a 3sgte and have my uncle swap it within a week,He says he can do it and is a certified Toyota Mechanic...So,I am gonna let him tackle it. He often says to me..Why didn't you just buy a Supra..until I mentioned I could do a swap and he's like..find a motor! I will do it!
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Aug 6, 2004 - 9:45 AM
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i would say the 2nd gen (90-93) just because of availability of parts..the first gen is getting old..and the 3rd gen is tougher to get parts for because they were never in the USA
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Aug 6, 2004 - 10:50 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 20, '03 From Annapolis, Md Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
2nd is going to be your best bet .. There for sale everywhere .. witch means the price will be a hella lot cheaper..
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Aug 6, 2004 - 12:05 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 27, '04 From phoenix az Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
yeh 2nd gen would be best but make sure you get one with a lsd u dont want to spend all your time and money on the motor and not being able to tranfer it to the ground.
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Aug 6, 2004 - 12:47 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 27, '02 From Derry,NH USA Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
Why would I want a tab of Acid for my engine?...
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Aug 6, 2004 - 12:51 PM
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Do you know what a limited slip differential is, and what it does? That's what he's talking about.
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Aug 6, 2004 - 8:57 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 27, '02 From Derry,NH USA Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
Actually,not really. I was trying to make a joke outta the LSD abbrev. til someone said what it was! Thanks Coomer!
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Aug 6, 2004 - 10:32 PM
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 or so he says
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Aug 7, 2004 - 11:50 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 25, '02 From Pittsburgh/Clairton, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
in sure your uncle THINKS he can...id talk to Qatar though and possibly work out getting the new harness...after that, im sure you uncle CAN do the rest though
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Aug 8, 2004 - 6:10 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 27, '02 From Derry,NH USA Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
I dunno man...He's very talented..I've seen him build some sick cars.
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Aug 8, 2004 - 12:32 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 25, '02 From Pittsburgh/Clairton, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
ok, just a suggestion...it's supposed to be the hardest part?
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Aug 9, 2004 - 7:16 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 27, '02 From Derry,NH USA Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
It's never good to doubt a man that can build a car. I trust him.
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Aug 10, 2004 - 9:19 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
get a 2nd gen USDM MR2 clip, then you can have the axles and tranny to boot. if you are lucky, find a 94 or 95 with OEM LSD
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Aug 10, 2004 - 9:24 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
i know why everyone says 2nd gen is the way to go....but id like to know what would make the 3rd gen a harder swap? i mean, 99% of the wiring would just plug in...same fuse box...same interrior plugs, etc...
the only thing i can see harder, is finind regular plats like distributor cap, timing belt, etc...because that motor was never sold here. This post has been edited by lagos: Aug 10, 2004 - 9:25 PM -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Aug 10, 2004 - 10:16 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 27, '02 From Derry,NH USA Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
I have $2,300 towards the swap. Would that do it?
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Aug 10, 2004 - 10:42 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
keep saving and doing research ...have at least 4,000 before you start. its better to have more money then to take your car apart and realize u ran out of cash to finish the project.
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Aug 11, 2004 - 5:51 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 27, '02 From Derry,NH USA Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
Eh. I am itching for the SPEED though!!
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Aug 12, 2004 - 12:43 AM
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The 3rd gen's wiring is just as hard. Sure the interior plugs are basically the same but you must remember that the 3rd gen was originally in a RHD vehicle while we drive LHD. The harness has to be extended or shortened in certain areas to make everything fit. Plus Japanese vehicles have less emission standards. I know when my dad and I did a KL-ZE swap into our 96 Mazda 626, some of sensors were different and the wriring for them was different. All of the 3SGTE swaps are difficult but out of the 3 (actually 4 if you consider the 3sgte from the new Curren as it has more power than the 3rd gen although I don't think anyone's tried it as of yet) the 2nd gen is the easiest since the availability of parts is greater.
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Aug 12, 2004 - 6:04 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 27, '02 From Derry,NH USA Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
Ah well..Maybe I will do that over the winter.
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Aug 12, 2004 - 7:24 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
having to extend the harness it a myth. i just cut a new hole in the firewall for my swap and it worked out great.
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