 Looking for a GT-4 Rear Axle, Looking for a GT-4 Rear Axle |
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 Aug 24, 2004 - 9:43 PM
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Enthusiast  Joined Nov 4, '02 From Davenport Iowa Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
you forgot cutting away the front half of the spare tire well  and you can still use the stock gas tank.. it just has to be moved back like it is on the alltracs and the GT4's - fuel cell is the better route though.pimpstarr690 - I want you to listen to me.... U R NOT READY FOR THIS..... no offense there.. but your not ready. I attempted this project about 3 years ago.. and while I got it to work it had problems... major ones and I ended up takin it off. that was on a liftback, your going to try and attempt this on a convert = DANGEROUS - the major prob I had with this setup was almost uncontrollable pull to the side at high speeds. I STRONGLY recommend that you just stop this project before it even gets started. Not because it can't be done.. cuz it can. But because it's not worth it. with that said I want you to know that this is not an attempt to flame you, it is an attempt to discourage you from something that could potentionally cause a major problem/accident/etc. but if you decided to go ahead with it... I got a transmission for you  edit: shameless selling tactics rock
This post has been edited by NEVERSTOP: Aug 24, 2004 - 9:44 PM --------------------  99 project version 3.0.. hello SEMA 2010 =) |
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Aug 25, 2004 - 6:40 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 4, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
never you accauly completed that awd conversion? i never heard you did that i understand you had problems but damn i never new you did that. i just thought you thought it cost a ridiculous amount of money and time and you scratched the idea.
anyway thats tight --------------------  hows it taste motha f*cka |
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Aug 25, 2004 - 6:41 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 4, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i do have a question though, if you have a gt4 and took out the fron drive axels to make it RWD would it push all the power to those wheels or would it only get like half the power??
-------------------- hows it taste motha f*cka |
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Aug 25, 2004 - 6:54 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
half the power. im not trying to flame, but i dont believe neverstop did it. -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Aug 26, 2004 - 6:25 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 21, '04 From united kingdom Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
what about the torsen diff? -------------------- GT4 ST205 79 modifications and rising!!
spec list: http://sox-japoc.co.uk/forum/garage.php?mo..._vehicle&CID=10 |
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Aug 27, 2004 - 6:29 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jul 19, '04 From Strongsville, Ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Hey, Im sorry that I didn't respond lately but like my computer crashed and I tryed to make an earlier reply today but I guess that it didn't like to work. lagos, If you were tryn' to E-Mail me earlier and it didnt go through it was because my aunt deleted my account. But I understand the AWD conversion. It would be pretty sweet to do it but it would be pretty damn hard to do. Currently I'm doing the bodywork to the Celi. I got rid of those teeth that are in the center grill. I tryed to use Bondo but I realized that didn't work due to the fact that I used the wrong stuff. But the fuel Cell, Would you have to cut a hole in the rear trunk to place it in correctly like RWD cars? But 3S-GTE swap will also hopefully be done this winter. My friend still wants to do that AWD conversion. So if anyone has any pictures on the specific modifications are can I please get them so I can take a gander to see what I'm getting myself into?
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Aug 27, 2004 - 7:04 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 4, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
you damn well better make your friend pay you for all the **** your going to be doing for an AWD conversion.
-------------------- hows it taste motha f*cka |
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Aug 29, 2004 - 5:02 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 19, '04 From Strongsville, Ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Well me and my friend are gonna do it together. We have no idea on when were gonna start this but it will definatly be by winter...i hope. =/ He's helping me with my Rotary in exchange for helping him with his car....
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Aug 29, 2004 - 9:46 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 22, '04 From Rhode Island Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
well if i sound like an ass saying this, o well ... you obvoiusly dont know any thing about celicas. awd is proberly the toughest thing you can do on the celica. not only does it have to be placed PERFECTLY, there are so many changes that will have to be made to the car. if you had any kind of mechanical knowledge you would relize just from looking at the underside of your friends car that seroius work would have to be done such as cutting part of the spare tire well, or moving the gas tank. i hope you understand that if you place a part a MM off that it could mean total destruction to the car. would u really want your friend or anyone you know to be driving this car at 100 mph then the rear axle falling off cuasing the car to crash and everyone to burn to death. there are so many people on this site that are so smart when it comes to cars. if it was a thing that could be done, it would of have been done many times over. you need to think of the consequences of converting to awd. i wouldnet let a mechanic do it for free to my car. just simply you cant trust it. Our cars arent made for awd. i am by far no good at cars. i havent even changed my oil, yet i know that this would be pretty much impossible. you would need so many tools, and so much money invested into a shop to do it the right way. and lastly lets say you get started with this project but eventually cant finish it, your friend is going to be left with a car that wont work. thats money down the drain... (and one less celica  )please, PLEAse do everyone a favor and do not attempt this. you cant do this right. if you had the know how you would not need to ask where parts are or if u could move certain things somewhere. heh everyone must think im an ass now but what i said is the truth, you want to take chances with your lives. go right ahead.
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Aug 29, 2004 - 10:18 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 28, '04 From FLA USA Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
It can be done.
I has been done. Is it worth it? For show, may be For performance, NO. You will have unstable car. Otherwise, the guy in S. Florida wouldn't put it on eBay. I guess he was just trying to cut his loss. But that's just my guess. -------------------- _Gary
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Aug 29, 2004 - 10:22 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 18, '02 From Texas Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
btw, did that car ever ended selling and if so how much did it go for? |
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Aug 30, 2004 - 2:43 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 22, '04 From Rhode Island Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
gary it has been done but even neverstop took his off. i wouldent trust that car on ebay, so many things could go wrong out of nowhere.
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Aug 30, 2004 - 10:36 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
IMO it can be done and safely.....but only to ruffly 100 mph
so ideally i'd only do this for the intentions of drift competition but drag would probably be another story..... if you take the time measure everything 100% perfect and 100% level then you will have a safe piece of equipment provided the welds, connections...ect. are good |
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Aug 30, 2004 - 10:45 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 20, '03 From Annapolis, Md Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
wow, lets put it this way, if you want an awd car, just go buy one thats awd.. then mod it.. simple as that.. an if your to in love with the looks of the celi, witch most everyone here is ... just deal with not having it..
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Aug 30, 2004 - 7:11 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 19, '04 From Strongsville, Ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
DamDirtyApes, your sitting here bustin my chops and you dont know anything about cars? I do have a shop were I can do this at also (if need be). I have multiple friends that has done AWD conversions...Just not to a Celi. So if we do end up doing this, it will be done. It just wont be a 2 person project. So my knowlede of cars is pretty good...So if we do go through with this. We can make it possible and it is for the purpose of drift...
_____ 88T2 95 Talon ESi Project Car ___ 96 Celica Convertable 82 Porsche 911 -------------------- My Twins! |
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Aug 30, 2004 - 7:33 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
"there are so many people on this site that are so smart when it comes to cars. if it was a thing that could be done, it would of have been done many times over"
lol...honestly....and i dont mean to flame anyone or doubt their abilities.....but the celica comunity is not very mechanicaly inclined. part of the reason is that we own such realiable cars, that they give us very little reason to pop the hood. take a look at some DSM sites one day. those cars have their fair share of issues, and end up turing everyone into great mechanics. there are even guys there who swap 4g63s into Colts and make them awd and other crazy projects. -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Aug 31, 2004 - 1:14 PM
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
sweet your doing my idea
 DRIIIIIIIIFFFFFFT awesome i love it.....i always wanted to see a 6gc on the drift circuit.... too bad its you and not me
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Aug 31, 2004 - 6:04 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 4, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
after your little swap it would be easier to just buy a full clip of a gt4 and weld teh back end on to your friends celi. i mean the cars not going to be that safe anyway so why not just do an easier job.
-------------------- hows it taste motha f*cka |
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Aug 31, 2004 - 10:42 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '03 From Nor Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Talk about beating a dead horse...
and player158: drifting puts more strain on the rear suspension and drivetrain than going fast... just so you know. Umm... hmm... where to start. Maybe I'll cut it short today. Can be done and can be done safely and correctly, but for a price tag most people wouldn't pay. All depends on your wallet (or pocket-book as some foreigners call it). It's the sort of project you DON'T want to take any short-cuts on and DEFINATELY DO NOT do anything cheap. I personally have spent long hours examining the rear of the Celica... and do think it can be done with the proper parts, fabrication, and reinforcment... however, only those who are 100% sure they must finish should even start... and you better know your stuff when it comes to balancing driveshafts, setting up correct points for suspension parts, etc... good luck... -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
1995 AT200 Celica ST: stocked out daily driver... 1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5: silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies... 1991 SW2x MR2 n/a: bare bones hardtop model soon to be... |
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Sep 1, 2004 - 2:19 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 19, '04 From Strongsville, Ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I think first were diong the Engine swap but im not 100% on that. I gotta talk to my buddy. But I understand the things dealing with the AWD conversion. I know people that have done AWD conversions before. So she and a few of my other buddy's would help me if I run into a perdiciment.
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