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 Oct 21, 2004 - 8:16 AM
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It would all depend on the compression ratios of the compressors in the different trubos. But if they are two same exact turbos set sequeintial and both set to compress up to 5psi, then you are right, the end result would only be 5 psi. In this case, the only thing that matters is the mass air flow through the turbos. st_celcia_killer: the short answer is NO. It will not work. the longer shorter answer is yes, it can be done if you REALLY want to. All it takes is TONS of money. Probably more money than it would take to put an actual 2jz engine in your st (please dont try that either). Dont waste your money to build up and put a TT setup on a 7a, give it to charity instead. -------------------- Its Orville's Celica, i just drive it... |
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Oct 21, 2004 - 8:40 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 25, '04 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
4 types of engine:
V-Formation (V) Inline (I) W-Formation (W) Flat (H) oh and Rotory Please know that not all engines are V's. -Ti This post has been edited by turboinduction: Oct 21, 2004 - 3:01 PM |
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Oct 21, 2004 - 8:47 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 22, '02 From Toronto Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Like someone else said, the Supra has a inline 6. The twin turbos on the Supra aren't that effecient either, even though one is used to spool the other, you still get a nasty bottleneck affect because of one intake manifold and one exhaust manifold, most know the best setup for a Supra is a single turbo. Thats why so many people are doing conversions. --------------------  |
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Oct 21, 2004 - 9:21 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 25, '04 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
After reading a little bit about the Twins, I found something out. The small turbo does NOT spool the big turbo. The exhaust manifold is restricted to flow only to the small turbo until 4000 or so rpms. After that, the small turbo is maxed and the manifold opens to the large turbo providing instant spool and higher boost levels. The first turbo doesn't have a function except spool quickly and provide low boost levels til 4000. Some people go ahead and do the TTC (true twin conversion) meaning they fool the EGCV actuator into pressure by doing some bypass work with the VSV. And then some people go ahead add do a single turbo setup in which the manifold is wide open and all 6 blasters can power the turbo into a fast spool. Now, after thats been said, lets go back to the Celica. The Celica is a INLINE-4. Has some decent torque at low rpms, but not alot of punch. As stated eariler in this topic, the 'small' turbo on the Supra TT is a CT26. If one were to single turbo there car, they'd use the CT26. The only way that a TT setup on the Celica would work would be to find a smaller turbo than the CT26 (and no, the T25 Mitsu wont work either - its too big). Good luck there as the CT26 and T25 are two of the smallest turbos from the manu's themselves. Then, after having the 'small' turbo, you'd need something thats uber-powerful but slow spool. Like a Frankenstein 20G thats good upto well past 30psi. After the setup was complete, you'd need a block that could handle the 30+psi. After that you'd still have a slow car? Why you ask? Simple. As stated when I begun, you have a INLINE-4. Meaning the exhaust pressure isn't enough to spool a big turbo. The largest turbo I think the 5SFE could spool is the t3/t4 hybrid. AND THATS STILL SMALL. So to answer your question, the answer is NO, you cant TT a Celica. However, feel more then welcome to T3 the 5S and have a killer block (shhh- i'm letting my secrets out  ).-Ti [\Topic] This post has been edited by turboinduction: Oct 21, 2004 - 9:23 AM |
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Oct 21, 2004 - 11:47 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 25, '02 From Pittsburgh/Clairton, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
does it really have to open to the big turbo, or is it always open at once there's enough flow then if just starts moving the compressor?
btw, wouldn't a Boxter/flat 4 be like an V4...just at 180degrees? --------------------  |
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Oct 21, 2004 - 12:39 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 21, '03 From Lynnwood, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I think Supra is inline 6, is not V6.
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Oct 21, 2004 - 12:50 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 8, '04 From LA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
This is almost the dumbest topic ever. It's significantly dumber than the Pirates Vs Ninja post, which was filled mostly with arghs and jokes about how pirates can only get booty from other male pirates.
Also, if I read one more post about the Supra being an inline 6, I'm gonna scream. No one gives a ****. You KNOW he meant 6 cylinder; he obviosly doesn't know or gives a flying rats ass about the difference between V formation and inline- SO WHY ARE THERE 9 POSTS ABOUT IT? It's sad, that this is the post that finally gets me 5 boxes. This post has been edited by shid: Oct 21, 2004 - 12:52 PM |
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Oct 21, 2004 - 12:55 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 25, '04 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
congrats shid on the master of the 5th
Hey, you aware that the Supra is actually a Inline-6? -Ti |
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Oct 21, 2004 - 12:56 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 8, '04 From LA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Die |
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Oct 21, 2004 - 2:35 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 25, '04 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
lol - I'm actually laughing out loud Much Love -Ti |
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Oct 21, 2004 - 2:40 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Why do we keep mentioning that the 2jzgte is an I6 and not a V when its been mentioned about :LDkdafj;sdlkfjaf days ago! READ! -------------------- |
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Oct 21, 2004 - 2:55 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 20, '03 From Annapolis, Md Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
Dont forget subi's, its an h design right, or is that what your concidering the flat?? |
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Oct 21, 2004 - 2:59 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 25, '04 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I said it to piss off Shid, but maybe :LDkdafj;sdlkfjaf is a long time to some people. -Ti |
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Oct 21, 2004 - 3:01 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 25, '04 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yep, I wrote F after Flat because I was in the groove, Its H for Horizontally opposed. -Ti |
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Oct 21, 2004 - 3:36 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 28, '03 From Bloomington, IN Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
It's even more sad you'r actually counting down till you get another box -------------------- NASA/SCCA RX-7....currently under the knife
92 Civic hatch B16 - Sold 10th anniv RX-7 - RIP The Slow Celica - Sold...and then crushed crushed due to street racing. Quote from Seinfeild: George's Boss reading a magazine: "People magazine's most beautiful people. Oh and a Celica...nothin wrong with that!" |
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Oct 21, 2004 - 11:44 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 31, '04 From Summerville, SC Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
The Supra is an inline 6, not a V6.
*reads thread* Eh... nevermind  Anyway, I'm hoping that this is going to turn out like my very first post here... I don't suppose anyone remembers that? -------------------- -Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaire Click here to see my swaps drtweak@phoenixtuning.com |
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Oct 21, 2004 - 11:52 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 8, '04 From LA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
See the little edit below my post Slow? That means I saw that, went back, and edited it. Come on man, you're slow sometimes, but not THAT slow, slow  Besides, I think you'd agree with me that this is the dumbest topic ever- and having 10 posts about the supra being an inline 6 helps it be that |
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Oct 22, 2004 - 1:15 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 27, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Can't we all just be friends?!
This post has been edited by Anub1s: Oct 22, 2004 - 1:17 AM |
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Oct 22, 2004 - 5:21 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 10, '04 From Shoreline, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
I think we all know the supra is an inline 6 not a v6, if the 2jzgte motor was a v6 it would not be a popular motor.
anyway, back to a twin turbo. its posible but not practical, you could get more from a single turbo and a well build motor, then a twin setup could ever get you just because its to much for the motor to handle, and tuning would be a pain to say the least. --------------------  |
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Oct 22, 2004 - 8:38 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 9, '03 From St. Louis Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
can we, from now on ignore people like this?
I'm not saying that we are too smart to share information, but, this guy could have done 3 minutes of research before coming on here and using caps. -------------------- [img]http://photos-081.facebook.com/n6/081/n15913038_30266081_3342.jpg[/img]
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