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 Oct 19, 2004 - 4:40 PM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Feb 3, '04 From West Windsor, NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%)  |
I will soon replace my front speakers b/c they're shot and I'm also gonna get a couple subs. My friend will do the installation for me
 . I just wanted to ask for your opinion on what brands are best. Should I change the stock head unit, too? Thanks
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Oct 19, 2004 - 4:44 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 24, '03 From fort smith, ar Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
headunit=sony or kenwood
subs=kicker or jl audio amp(s)=kicker or sony. -dstrb --------------------  former celica owner. |
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Oct 19, 2004 - 8:19 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 3, '04 From NC Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i got a pioneer head unit, 2 700watt 12" with the KAC-7251 800watt amp all kenwood ,sounds great. Yea u should really replace ur head unit to be able to get out the most out of ur system.
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Oct 19, 2004 - 8:39 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 22, '04 From Rhode Island Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
head unit alpine, speakers jl aduio
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Oct 19, 2004 - 9:07 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 9, '04 From San Carlos, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
What's your price range? What kind of music do you listen to? With a little more detail everyone could help you out a lot more. |
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Oct 19, 2004 - 9:37 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 4, '04 From VA, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
yea your not allowed to speak about car audio nemore. i would go for boston accoustics for speakers, if u cant afford them then go for pioneer 4-ways. u def need to switch out the HU to get good sound. i would recommened alpine over all. then pioneer subs....JL Amps....rockfords good even though ppl dont like them, but JL again tell me specifics....IE wht kind of music, how much time, wht u want in ur HU(mp3, etc) and ill tell u specifics |
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Oct 19, 2004 - 10:38 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 3, '04 From West Windsor, NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
I don't want to spend a lot of money so my friend recommends that I keep the stock head unit, and get the best 10-inch sub and the best amp they have at a store he works at (he will also give me a discount). I will listen to hip-hop and techno mostly but also rock. I forgot to mention that I have the 8-speaker premium system in my car so that is why he thinks I should keep the stock head-unit. Thanks for the replies.
EDIT: He says I might not need dynamat (sp?) what do you guys think? This post has been edited by Rider: Oct 19, 2004 - 10:40 PM |
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Oct 19, 2004 - 10:49 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 8, '04 From LA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yeah your friend's not allowed to talk about car audio anymore either. a HU will do 10 times better than new speakers. Alpine for HU, Alpine for speakers if you're on a budget. JL for subs Do your own research about amps, they're tricky. Make sure you get one based on RMS and not Peak power |
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Oct 19, 2004 - 11:08 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 3, '04 From West Windsor, NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
How about Rockford for speakers, subs and amp?
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Oct 19, 2004 - 11:15 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 8, '04 From LA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
overpriced (speakers), I didn't like how they sounded (subs) and overpriced, but gets the job done (amp). I have an RF amp because I got it for half off, but you can get another brand thats just as good |
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Oct 19, 2004 - 11:32 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 31, '03 From Orlando, Florida Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
im glad RF makes good amps, because after blowing my last POS power acoustik that lasted a month ive decided to go with one of their new amps thats in the mail right now
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Oct 20, 2004 - 12:00 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 10, '04 From san diego Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
ok....head unit does not make 10 times better ...it does make it better...
it all depends on what HU to match to speaker.. for example...you get a HU rated at 45-52x4 no way in hell is that going to run some good speaker without a amp...unless it a really low rms...some pioneers (sp?) or crap like plye ect... you need a amp to power your speaker if your going to invest in something good...ie. componets ect as for sub....JL is way over priced...good spl and sq tho if you want to spend that money... RF makes crap amps now....they are way over rated...they HX2 subs are pretty solid their is tons of brand out there that will destroy JL if you want spl try something like RE/XXX whoa do they hit only you will lose tons of SQ DB drive is aslot a good brand for both spl/sq anything with flames is not good....unless you dont care to much for music infinity KAPPA's are really good on sq MTX also has a fair share of spl/sq subs for amp....i would look for a hifonics brutus...if your going to wire to 1 ohm the list goes on......just all depends on how much money you want to spend and who builds it |
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Oct 20, 2004 - 12:46 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 8, '04 From LA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
You've totally missed the point here. In any true system, the power a HU puts out doesn't matter worth ****- because you take the preouts and amp it up later. It's the QUALITY of the HU. It's the SIGNAL PROCESSING A HU is 10 times better, or more, than the stock HU's processing on our mid 90s toyota cars; for sound quality alone. Also, only considering wattage, the stock amp puts out.. 8Ws of RMS power (was what mine said on the side). Most HUs do 20-25 RMS; thats 4 times. A HU does not need to be "matched" to a speaker. A Sony HU with Sony speakers is still going to sound worse than an Alpine HU with Sony speakers. You need to find a good quality head unit that fits your signal needs- you match it to yourself. As for JL audio, they're cheap as hell for the quality- I got my 10W3v2s for 100 each; I know coomer got his W6s at 110. We both bought ours from actual shops. RF doesn't make "crap" amps. They overprice their amps- the components are still decent quality.
And at that, I can just stop reading. This post has been edited by shid: Oct 20, 2004 - 12:49 AM |
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Oct 20, 2004 - 2:48 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 20, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
You mean to tell me that with a stock sound system, adding a new hu will increase the sound quality of my system. im sure, it will add a little better sound, but in truth the speakers are limiting the sound. You can have the best, most expensive hu out there, but with that the speakers will reproduce the sound really crappy cause they cant handle the new power output of the hu. Now with my friends car, he has the 8 speaker factory amped sound system. What you ppl dont understand is that with a factory amp, you must bypass it before a new hu is installed. because his stock hu is pushing out very minimal wattage, he needs the factory amp, if you keep the factory amp intact and install a hu, this adds 4 times the wattage going into the amp which with cause chaos when he turns the volume up even an 8th of the way. normally we could bypass the amp and power his speakers by the hu, but he has 2 set of componets in the front doors (tweets, mids, and lows), and those need to be amped. So he would have to buy 2 4ch amps for all his speakers...which would be way over budget. so my advice...DONT RECOMMEND STUFF IF YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT |
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Oct 20, 2004 - 2:48 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 10, '04 From san diego Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
ok first....every one know JL is way over priced...it doesnt matter how much you bought it....you got a good deal...i mean dont get me worng they make top of the like stuff....but simple for the price it isnt worth it....if you are trying to get spl out of that like a said b4 RE/XXX sub will KILL it no problem hands down.....and infinity kappas will match that for sq for a 10w3v2
and what amo does RF make now that isnt crap.....plz tell me....simple like this..RF use to be know for getting alot of power for a good price since then all there new stuff isnt tottally crap but it isnt what it use to be......so i said it cuz when a company goes from good to ehh ...i dont know what you call it i just said crappy and yes a aftermarket HU will of course be 10 time better then factory....if thats what you meant sorry i didnt get to read it good cuz i was in a hurry to go to the casino but most HU now will give you a good signal ...and yeah like i said 45-52x4 max power come down to like 20-25rms times 4...the best i have seen from working one a stereo was like 22rms something not to sure..... ohh yeah and RF componets are pretty damm good like you said...i just installed some of the higher end stuff in a jeep and wow really nice i have to say.. and as for MTX you gotta know they make good stuff.....i mean they no where in hell the best...but i was really impressed on new 9500 series ....gives the JL w7 a runs for their money.....i didnt thing it would till i heard it.. as for amps....i bought a mtx 500D amp for 150....its puts out 500 at 2 ohms and 775 at 14.5 volts which most cars these day will put out...new amp wise i dont know havent really worked with them....they arent to bad from what i have read... |
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Oct 20, 2004 - 3:08 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 25, '04 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I'll keep my post short since everyone's else is UBER-long lol.
Headunit - Alpine ---My Headunit - Alpine MDA-W700JB Double-Din CD/MD player Components- Infinity ---My components - Infinity Kappa 6 speaker set up w/o subs Subwoofers- JL ---My Subs- Cant think of model - but two 10ers Amps- Phoenix Gold ---My Amp - Havent got this piece yet (i'm putting my system together) LOTS AND LOTS OF DYNAMAT! -Ti |
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Oct 20, 2004 - 3:17 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 24, '03 From fort smith, ar Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
why? b/c i have a different taste in stereo equipment? please explain this to me! -dstrb -------------------- former celica owner. |
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Oct 20, 2004 - 3:17 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 10, '04 From san diego Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
let me know how that PG amp gonna work out...i heard nothing but good new about PG amps.....i have done a few installs with my buddy that use to sell PG stuff...and the sub are damm nice.....good prices too..
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Oct 20, 2004 - 3:27 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 26, '04 From Vancouver, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I would say most any Kenwood MP3 deck, some Planet Audio full range for the doors, Planet Audio amp 300+ watt for one 10, 500+ for two 10's and 700+ for two 12's. For subs Kicker Comp VR. Little back ground about my info, my dad has been making speaker boxes for car stereo's for the last 30 years for a few of the leading car stereo places around the Portland, OR area.
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Oct 20, 2004 - 4:31 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 25, '04 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Gilbert, thats the reason I'm going with it.
I was going RF, but after hearing Phoenix Gold and seeing the quality, theres no doubt in my mind. -Ti |
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