ST engine upgrade Options

[NEVERSTOP]

well I will say that I know more about the gt than the st so I might be wrong about the 4a... I have a tendency to froget about the St, but when I looked into this about a year ago I was told by toyota that it will not work... but who knows? I'll take your word on it but I do know for a FACT that the 4a will NOT work in a GT

edit: I own page 2.... hell yeah!

[Mynzeyes]

QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Dec 8 2002, 07:54 PM)

well I will say that I know more about the gt than the st so I might be wrong about the 4a... I have a tendency to froget about the St, but when I looked into this about a year ago I was told by toyota that it will not work... but who knows? I'll take your word on it but I do know for a FACT that the 4a will NOT work in a GT edit: I own page 2.... hell yeah!

sure the 4age would work in the GT..it'd be just like puttin a 3sgte in an ST..you'd have to redo the axles and motor mounts and what now. it's all interchangable man, just gotta do diff. stuff for diff. combos.
-John-

[kuya1284]

QUOTE (mynzeyes @ Dec 8 2002, 10:22 PM)

QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Dec 8 2002, 07:54 PM) well I will say that I know more about the gt than the st so I might be wrong about the 4a... I have a tendency to froget about the St,  but when I looked into this about a year ago I was told by toyota that it will not work... but who knows?  I'll take your word on it but I do know for a FACT that the 4a will NOT work in a GT edit:  I own page 2.... hell yeah! sure the 4age would work in the GT..it'd be just like puttin a 3sgte in an ST..you'd have to redo the axles and motor mounts and what now. it's all interchangable man, just gotta do diff. stuff for diff. combos. -John-

What John said is ABSOLUTELY correct. And Neverstop, I would like an answer to Charlie's question as well. If you did perform an AWD conversion, I would like to know more information. Because performing an AWD conversion for under $1k is HIGHLY unbelieveable. You could barely buy a ST185 clip for that price.

[macavely]

damn i just finished reading everything on the form and i'm more confused the before. I'm going to have to call my dad and all his brother to help me out with my engine swap.

Now is someone could help me out with this one question i have. why can't you have a FF wheel drive car with more then 220 hp. i'm sure i have seen drag racers with a lot more hp then that, but i could be wrong.

[rlan214]

QUOTE (macavely @ Dec 23 2002, 02:30 AM)

Now is someone could help me out with this one question i have. why can't you have a FF wheel drive car with more then 220 hp. i'm sure i have seen drag racers with a lot more hp then that, but i could be wrong.

you can dude
look at the neon sr4 or whatever that ****box chrysler made
thats over 220 horsies over(i think)

[ghostdog]

its not really a matter of whether a FF car can have 250 or more hp. its a matter of whether you want that much power in a FF. look at what SCC said about the new SRT-4. its got horrible torque steer, spins tires without thinking twice about it, and their first recommended upgrade is a LSD. plain and simple, front-wheel drive is a bad platform for serious power.

[FallenHero]

If I could run 13's I wouldn't really care if it would turn. I figure 200-250 is all anybody would need. (well, unless you realy wanted to put the hurt on your Euro supercar friends.)

[NEVERSTOP]

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What John said is ABSOLUTELY correct. And Neverstop, I would like an answer to Charlie's question as well. If you did perform an AWD conversion, I would like to know more information. Because performing an AWD conversion for under $1k is HIGHLY unbelieveable. You could barely buy a ST185 clip for that price.

That was just for the Rearend... not the whole swap. when I got my 3sgte it came with the transmission and transfercase... all I had to get was just the rearend, driveshaft and suspension out of a st205 for me to convert to allwheel drive..

to do the conversion you will need a 3sgte and transmission that comes with it.

The conversion is really easy to do..
Raise up the vehicle and support it with jack stands at least 2.
unbolt the stock rearend.
unbolt or break the welds.. depends on how yours is mounted... for you gas tank. be sure that yo have disconnected the fuel pump
Move your ST205 rearend under vehicle.
You will need to do some cutting to the floor panels to allow the pumpkin to fit.
connect drive shaft to transfercase.
Bolt up suspension and rearend to vehicle and driveshaft to rearend... will need some extra hands.

this is really not that hard to do and I completed it with the help of a few friends in about 5-6 hours.

By the way.. I called TRD about the 4agze fitting in a GT... the 4agze is too wide for it to fit correctly into the GT subframe. you could make it fit but would be lossing alot of strenght in the subframe... not a smart Idea.

BTW I was wrong about the 4agze fitting into the ST... like I said before I forget about the ST's most of the time and usally think from a GT point of mind... sorry