7AFTE, Building up 7afe internals ect. Options

[playr158]

I've singled out playr158 today as my annoyance

hey man its all good

yea i know wat 3 angel is

as for the crank ---lol thats why its in the crack head section

and hey its good to learn were i flawed things

and i wasn't saying he HAD to do every thing thats why i stated
what i would do for the most part as a practically optimum/final setup
instead of the 1 stage in the complete build up of the system

and 83mm is the max hence the reason i said that
cause that would be a nice addative in the build up since you could probably (not sure) get better sleeves even though thats not really needed either

as for the tranny the only reason i say titanium cause i know sum people with them that like them that and titanium is the strongest metal since i know the 7 tranny isn't that great well thought if its available then why the hell not lol
the bigger fuel lines hmm i must been not thinking there? but hell if you have more fuel might as well get it there with bigger lines but still a retarded thing i said woops

but all in all if you combine KWANZA me and NIK
you have great info right there (mixing the info of course to kwanzas corrections)

you have great info oh and for ITBs yea at my stated intake mods yea you would consider ITBs i guess

oh kwanza i can CHEW i can CHEW BIG
so if i'm wrong then hell yea correct me and kick my butt i appreciate it
if my understanding is wrong and its corrected

[Kwanza26]

and 83mm is the max hence the reason i said that
cause that would be a nice addative in the build up since you could probably (not sure) get better sleeves even though thats not really needed either

as for the tranny the only reason i say titanium cause i know sum people with them that like them that and titanium is the strongest metal since i know the 7 tranny isn't that great well thought if its available then why the hell not lol
the bigger fuel lines hmm i must been not thinking there? but hell if you have more fuel might as well get it there with bigger lines but still a retarded thing i said woops

oh kwanza i can CHEW i can CHEW BIG
so if i'm wrong then hell yea correct me and kick my butt i appreciate it
if my understanding is wrong and its corrected
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Heh... you can't chew *that* big... ;]

I don't care if you spit out information from past discussions... just let it be known that you're "assuming"...

[playr158]

yea i will in future but there were only 2 assumptions the rest i just suggested or was needed

thanks kwanza

[nik]

ok i'll just break down a basic set up

9-10 on a 7afte should get 170 whp 180 trq this is dyno provine
i think the limit of the 7afe stock engine is 12-14 psi max and thats pushing it
getting you in the 200 horse and 230+ trq

for your goal of 20 psi
i want to ask you why 20 psi? Do you just want the bragging rights of 20 psi
or are you shoting for 250+ whp?

[d3monc3lica]

w000t i cant wait til summer, my kits just sitting here, now....not to pirate this post, but ......... can we talk vacuum lines? That is one of the only things making me a little iffy.......... because Im not sure which go where... thanks..

[94ST2]

OK as for the 20 psi I figured that pushing 14-20 would get me between 200-250 and thats all I really want. Im not gonna be using it for bragging rights or anything and I dont think what people put down on the dyno is everything you gotta be a good driver too to race in more than a straight line.

[nik]

OK as for the 20 psi I figured that pushing 14-20 would get me between 200-250 and thats all I really want.  Im not gonna be using it for bragging rights or anything and I dont think what people put down on the dyno is everything you gotta be a good driver too to race in more than a straight line.
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i was just asking some people are like that and just brag out there stuff.
Anyways here is what you need to do

build your head (p&p maybe valves etc)
new low comp pistons (forged)
new gaskets (metal head)
good turbo
good intercooler
fuel control

pretty much like the stuff i and others have said earlier in the posts

with all those you should hit 250 whp oh and good luck on your project

[brianforster]

kwanza is the man, i mean seriously, id go with any advice he gives you, ive read this forum 6 months before i owned my celica and 6 months after i wrecked my celica, and his advice is pretty much my celica bible, ive seen a lot of his stuff and i really trust him with advice.

he will point you in the right direction

[FallenHero]

kwanza is the man, i mean seriously, id go with any advice he gives you, ive read this forum 6 months before i owned my celica and 6 months after i wrecked my celica, and his advice is pretty much my celica bible, ive seen a lot of his stuff and i really trust him with advice.

he will point you in the right direction
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Agreed, he knows his stuff.

[nik]

kwanza is the man, i mean seriously, id go with any advice he gives you, ive read this forum 6 months before i owned my celica and 6 months after i wrecked my celica, and his advice is pretty much my celica bible, ive seen a lot of his stuff and i really trust him with advice.

he will point you in the right direction
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Agreed, he knows his stuff.
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i know my my stuff but i still ask Kwanza on stuff (4age and other toyota engines)
so ditto Kwanza's the man

This post has been edited by nik: Feb 22, 2005 - 1:23 PM

[Kwanza26]

thanks for the compliments fellas.

[playr158]

word kwanza is a great dictionary not a bible

[94ST2]

Thanks for all the replys guys as for the head work on the valves what besides 3 angle valve job could I do?

[94ST2]

Does anyone know how much boost the Garrett T25 turbo with a wastegate can get?

[BBoYRuGGeD]

Does anyone know how much boost the Garrett T25 turbo with a wastegate can get?
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im looking at that very same turbo man i been reading and it said the turbos good all the way to 300hp. but at safe boost (6PSI) u should get a good 30%-50% increase in hp depending on the setup. so with an ST... prolly what.... 130-150hp? build ur internals a bit and u can go higher boost. also said the turbo can handle 15PSI no prob. im giving this turbo (turbo kit) a good thinking myself minus the internals work since im looooow milage. also... look at the garret T25BB turbo. same turbo but its dual ball bearing, suppose to reduce lag and add more power. i know some members here got the T25 so if u guys can.. enlighten us on how this turbo handles

[nik]

this is IMAO but i think just the T3 bottom trim is just fine for 7afte set not really any lag and can put out 250 horse (on the turbo)

but you guys need to look and the maps to see where your goals are and the efficency (sp) of the turbo in that range

a turbo 7afte is a fun car not the fastest and a quick car

[playr158]

i suggest a t3/t04 its a great turbo IMO
gets minimal lag and a great topend pull
just an improved T3 lol

but t25?
comes in most "bolt on" kits

not my cup of tea for that turbo
t3 is best bet

[nik]

i suggest a t3/t04 its a great turbo IMO
gets minimal lag and a great topend pull
just an improved T3 lol

but t25?
comes in most "bolt on" kits

not my cup of tea for that turbo
t3 is best bet
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i disagree i think the t3t4 would lag more and kick in later in the rpm band

[BBoYRuGGeD]

yah i hear ya guys... the T3 is probably a better turbo. but i cant seem to find any turbo KITS with the T3 for the 7afe (i say 7afe cuz im looking/thinking into buying a corolla 7afe turbo kit... since theres prolly no turbo kits made for our cars anyway). the question is how good/reliable IS the T25? since there is a kit made already with this turbo for the 7afe. not to get off topic but where would the best place to buy a turbo kit be? im looking into the kit since i dont plan on running high boost anyway.. just reliably safe boost

[playr158]

anywhere with a corrolla kit i guess

nah the T3/T04 to my understanding was made to reduce lag with the ability to extend the top end as well?
but then again i could be wrong lol kwanza?