more reliable : GT or ST ?, probably been coverd before... Options

[Batman722]

maybe it's just me but I think I have seen more posts about GT having more probs than STs. Am I just imagining it ?

I know they are both some of the most reliable engines ever, but, which is more reliable long term ?

My opinion is that GT owners have most likely driven their cars harder (more wear and tear) than ST owners. If your car has the power you are more likely to use it more often. People with a 7a probably aren't going to push it because, well, they aren't going to get the results they want and probably accept it. I think you are more likely to find a more abused GT than an ST.

If you find a babied GT or a babied ST, which would last longer ?

what do you all think ?

[Supersprynt]

I think both engines are equally reliable.

[CheesyLobster]

I think both engines are equally reliable.
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Hahah, I think you are just saying that because you have a GT. I think that its pretty clear that both cars are incredibly reliable, but the 7afe, since it has less power, will wear the engine less, thus making it more reliable.

[Supersprynt]

I have a GT but not a GT engiine

[Kwanza26]

The 7AFE powerplant and drivetrain is far more reliable... or... they have less "quirks"... I've yet to see any major headaches with a 7AFE, 4AFE, or any A series engine, C50, C52 tranny, or anything like that in years (since my own in fact). I have quite a few fun stories about S series engines though... like a rod through the block, the bottom-end sounding like a table saw, the 3SFE head that ate spark plug wires, the mysterious valve cover leaks, etc. Not saying one engine is better than the other, but from my experience, the 7AFE's seem to have less trouble in my direction than 3SFE/5SFEs do... in fact, we just finshed pulling out a JDM 3SFE from a Camry that had some major rod knocks...

Both should be equally strong if the owner does his/her maintence... oh... and I don't think it's much to do with driving style. I beat the crap out of my 7AFE... and I beat the crap out of my 5SFE (MR2).

This post has been edited by Kwanza26: Mar 5, 2005 - 3:01 AM

[Insanity-74]

Both engines are pretty bomb proof, typical japanese reliability, niether will let you down in a hurry. What I will say is though, which a few might disagree with, because the ST has less power I`d say that the ST would have been driven harder because you need to push them that much more/harder to get anywhere near the same out of them performance wise as the GT. If either one dose break down many of the parts are common anyway or will cost roughly the same to replace. I think the only thing you have to worry about is which badge you want on the back. As to which would last longer, I`d vote for the GT but only cause I know from my own driving style I would have to push the ST to its limits everytime I drove it to get some fun out of it, I`d probably kill it pretty quick.

[94GT]

My 5SFE (GT) has almost 250,000 miles on it, and it has never failed me yet.

[pr_caralho]

My 5SFE (GT) has almost 250,000 miles on it, and it has never failed me yet.
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And may she never

[2003cbgts]

celicas are damn tanks

[macavely]

well just got back from a 700 mile road trip... and push the ship out of the 5s ... she reached speeds of 90-125 for a good hour none stop.... and has 216,030 miles on the block and head.... no major engine problems yet... other then the other night she not wanting to start cause of a frozen fuel filter... also had the 7a as some of u might remeber with 180,xxx miles on it... and never had one single problem with that engine ... so which one is more reliable.... well thats which everone u are driving and taking care of...

[Digndoug]

I think there all the same.. But it all depends on the drivers of the cars, and the care. If you dont take care of an engine or car, it could crap out around 80k. ... if you do take care of it, it could crap out at 260k or somthing stupid like that.

I think sence there both low power economy engines and not made to run hard.. they will last a long time.

[pokemeintheeye]

I'm gonna have to agree with Insanity-74. Most drivers are more likely to drive an underpowered car a lot more aggressively do to its lack of power to reach the desired speed.

I'll say this too. Leaving the engine out of it. The top of line model celica will have more problems than the base model celica. The only reason thats true is because the one has more gadgets and options than the other.