Nismo Z-Tune Skyline, sooooooo sexy Options

[FallenHero]

You're an idiot. Nissan is rating hp lower then it really is. Just like GM use to. And the people who would buy this car don't have to millionares. The car is around 175,000. Expensive, yes, but I know ferreri worth a bit more. I live by Indianpolis and I see guys w/ nice houses (just 2 door garage) w/ lambos and rerri's. Now getting it over here and all....it's all besides my point.

If you good at it's motor and know anything about racing and competive pricing, you'll realize it's got more then 500hp.
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I'm an idiot ehh? I'm sorry, I don't really get angry, but what the hell were you thinking when you wrote that phrase? Because we differ in opinion (in which I think I am 100% correct, and will soon respond to that part of your post) you call me an idiot. That is 'foolish' sir. It's is 'foolish' for you to write such things. Little 'big man' comments such as that are useless, and serve no purpose in legitimate conversation. Agh, honestly,,,

Now. On to the ignorance, which means lack of understanding or knowledge.

I have already explained why GM (a freaking long time ago) under rated their cars. That much is Fact positive. It's the truth and EVERYONE will agree with that.

Now, I will preface this by saying that Yes, it is possible that Nissan underrated the cars power. Why? I have no idea why they would do such a thing. Then again, I don't know why Coke now comes with a lime tasting version. In both cases (assuming Nissan did under rate the car's power) the sales team made huge mistakes. They were, to quote you, idiot... or idiots in this case.

Now, lets shift over a bit. That car is $175k

Kbb lists the price for a BRAND NEW Porsche 911 TT (one of the single most powerful and well balanced super cars on the planet) at almost $140k. Now, this (like the skyline) is a Super car. A car that you do not drive every day, one that you just don't worry about gas mileage on, a car that you buy when you have money to burn. When you have the money to buy a car like this, insurance prices are the last thing you care about. People with millions don't walk into upper level car dealers and ask what the insurance is going to be,,, that is insanity. They would say, if you have to ask about that, you can't afford the car.

That is as plain as I can put it.

As for the people that buy a $200k car not having (we'll say) a million dollars. That would mean they have no brain at all. That's spending twenty percent of your income on an auto that you will rarely use, and will decrease Drastically in value. Also, with the car in question, I doubt it will be running say.. Five years down the road. Then again, we both agree that the engine in question is capable of FAR more than 500whp... but this is a production car. So, maybe they have the car set up to have a longer life rather than Gobs and Gobs of power. There are factors here that we might not be aware of.

Why in the hell would Nissan say the car had less power than it actually does?

1. Insurance prices= people wouldn't care
2. to sell fewer cars... because that is what would happen... just like the new Evo and the STI suba. People hear the STI has "300hp" and immediately think, wow, that is a mean car! Does it have 300 hp... not even close. The factory just had a big number up there to sell more cars. That is, after all, what the car business is all about.


My only guess is that they are running the car conservatively so it will be more reliable. Either that or they ran a pole about what the best hp number was and it came out as 500...

Lastly, don't you dare call me an idiot. I'm a Junior in College taking eight classes. I have, up to this very semester, had a full time job. Through all of this I have held a 4.0 GPA. I also have more automotive knowledge than 99% of people breathing today. Calling people 'little names' is not exactly good policy.


Jon

And that sir, is my last post in this thread.

This post has been edited by FallenHero: Mar 25, 2005 - 12:44 AM

[Mr_E]

This skyline is a last hurrah for the breed, and it's for collectors.

I doubt you'll see them driven in anger. Simply because if you want a fast skyline, you buy a decent R34 Vspec II for 60K and spend the other 100K modfying it as you like.

500bhp will not cost 100K. 1000bhp reliably might.

[SlowCelica94]

Mr. E, we're paying for their R&D and name, most likely. You gotta look at all the engineering that went into the aerodynamics, all vents work blah blah blah. But your route of buying a GTR and modding it yourself is the route many other would take for obvious reasons. Like you said, collectors car.

Wow, I really ticked you off with that idiot comment. In case you failed to notice, at this point we're just running in circles. All I'm gonna do from this point is re-state myself, then you will too, ect ect. What surprises me, is for all your auto knowledge you claim, you're a bit different. All the real smart car guys I know are real into going fast, or performing well. And you....you painted your dash silver, thus lossing all automotive knowledge credibility with me.

But hey, I bet it looks great.

[turboinduction]

Mr. E, we're paying for their R&D and name, most likely. You gotta look at all the engineering that went into the aerodynamics, all vents work blah blah blah. But your route of buying a GTR and modding it yourself is the route many other would take for obvious reasons. Like you said, collectors car.

Wow, I really ticked you off with that idiot comment. In case you failed to notice, at this point we're just running in circles. All I'm gonna do from this point is re-state myself, then you will too, ect ect. What surprises me, is for all your auto knowledge you claim, you're a bit different. All the real smart car guys I know are real into going fast, or performing well. And you....you painted your dash silver, thus lossing all automotive knowledge credibility with me.

But hey, I bet it looks great.
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Yea, I agree its just going to go back and forth. But why insult him for "painting your dash silver". 1. Its a dash kit, looks like brushed aluminum. And 2. Its for comestic purposes only - so people and the driver can admire such a beautiful car. Comestic.... much like Nitrous buttoned steering wheel, 4" exhaust tip, clear turn singals and your side markers. But hey, I bet they look great

-Ti

[SlowCelica94]

Hm, I suppose I'd look at ur profile so I could critize your mods too, but everything's *top secret* with you. Like we all give a care what mods you have planned.

FYI, I had nitrous in my car, and it was hooked up to streeting wheel buttons. The steering wheel was also my best friend's, but he died when I was sixteen, so I have in there as a respect to him. It feels great too. As for my "4inch exhuast", most fart cans are. And mine's HKS, my muffler's worth more then your whole exhaust.

Are people just trying to join Slow's $hit List these days? Or is it the cool thing to gang up on him? This isn't you arugement TI. This is just you being "that guy"

[Exile04]

yall are stupid i already got that car on Gt4 and its hot...haha sry had to add