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hey guys, since i've been fielding alot of questions about turboing the 5s, and most of the links in the 5sfte sticky are dead, i figured i start a thread about the buildup of my kit, and try to include as many details as possible, so everyone can learn a little more about what exactly goes into a setup like this. ill keep updating the threads and adding pics and stuff as i upload more ect..
im not gonna get into the whole why not swap a 3s instead debate here, thats a dead issue as far as im concerned. (not that i think swapping is a bad idea, just not for me.)
so, ill start off by saying the single most important thing you can do if you wanna turbo your 5s is RESEARCH! take your time, learn about the diffrent systems that all work together to make a good kit work. go to www.howstuffworks.com and find out how EVERYTHING works, it'll make understanding the hows and whys of everything so much easier. i've been reserching about this for 2+yrs and i STILL learn new things everyday.
#2 is DONT BE CHEAP...can you do it cheap? yea..will it last? prolly not.
thats gotta be the SINGLE biggest mistake i see EVERYONE make. cheap out on all the little stuff, and it WILL come back to haunt you in the end

that said, i decided i wanted to turbo my 5s. lol wink.gif
so, off on the hunt i went...parts lists, install sites, the burien kit...i searched it ALLLLLL...for MONTHS!! talking to people, looking at sites, printing info..basicly what the old timers call "goin to the woodshed"
then, i started looking for parts:
3s exhaust manifold, ct-26 turbo, oil hard lines, elbow and primary cat (also known as a downpipe), if your not planning on getting a aftermarket downpipe. also the oil pan and 2bar map sensor.
your gonna want these off of a 2nd gen 3sgte from a 90-93 alltrac or mr2T, and are pretty easy finds over on www.alltrac.net and or www.mr2oc.com. if your not a member of these 2 sites, YOU SHOULD BE!!! theres a wealth of info on these to sites, and while alot of it may not be 5sfte spacific, its still VERY good info, especially the 90-99 mr2/ 3sgte forum.
next was injectors. there is ALOT of confusion here, where to find them, what they look like, what size are they really ect.
what we're looking for is the MKIII N/A supra injectors. not turbo injectors, not alltrac injectors, N/A MKIII supra. theyre a lime green color, and 315cc. just to clear up another point of confusion, they do NOT become bigger injectors in our cars. the fuel pressure between the n/a supra and the 5s is the SAME.
there is a pic in the 5sfte sticky of what they look like and the flow tests to show it.
i found mine on ebay, but you can sometimes find them on some of the boards ive mentioned, and the supraforums.
also, i really reccomend having the injectors cleaned and balanced once you get them, if you look closley at the printout for my injectors in the sticky from when i had them cleaned and balanced, youll see why i say this.
one of my injectors wasnt even spraying, it was DRIPPING before it was cleaned. i'd HATE to see what would happen if i'd installed that thing in there and cranked up the boost! wink.gif
so yea, i really cant stress enough, HAVE YOUR INJECTORS CLEANED BEFORE YOU INSTALL THEM!!! www.rceng.com did an excelent job on mine for about 100$, and ive heard thru the mr2 board that www.witchhunter.com also does a very good job, and are only 12$ per injector.

EDIT!!! 315CC injectors are TOO SMALL for use in a turbo 5sfe. 460cc rx7 injectors are a drop in replacement and are discribed later in this post!!!


you'll also need to upgrade your fuel pump, use the 255lph walboro supra pump. you can get it for under 100 usually on ebay., and pretty much bolts in.
next for me was the intercooler..now contrary to popular belief, bigger IS NOT always better when it comes to intercoolers.
you wanna choose the smallest intercooler to fit your needs, with a LITTLE room for growth. for instance, in my case, my goal is around 190-200whp for now, so i chose a intercooler thats 26x6x3 overall length, with endtanks. its good for up to 300hp. why not somthing bigger? well, the #1 reason is theres no NEED for anything bigger. lol the bigger you go, the more pressure drop you have, and thats not what we want. with all the piping invloved for a 5sfte FMIC, the last then we want is some big honking core, sucking up 2-3 or more psi of the boost we wanna get to our engines.
for the piping, again, bigger is NOT always better. 2" or 2.25 " is more than sufficent for us. you'll need to buy pre-bent lengths and cut and fit them for your particular setup. jcwhitney is cheap for aluminized steel, or burns stainless if you want stainless pipes.
then the noise maker of the bunch wink.gif , the BOV...your choice here, i chose the HKS SSQV... got it from ebay for 190+ shipping i think it was..just make sure your buying the real thing if its from ebay, theres alot of shady copys floating around. youll also need a mounting flange to have welded to your intercooler piping, make sure you get the correct size and material to match your piping. wink.gif
TOO BE CONTINUED... biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by presure2: Nov 11, 2007 - 10:53 AM


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- presure2   my 5SFTE turbo project   Apr 2, 2005 - 11:51 AM
- - 6strngs   so, if I just used bigger injectors (440cc) with t...   Jan 13, 2007 - 12:55 AM
- - presure2   no. because the 460s are so much larger than our s...   Jan 13, 2007 - 6:36 AM
- - presure2   just for the record. 1 yr, 6 months+, and still ru...   Jan 14, 2007 - 8:42 AM
- - NgoFcukinWay   outta curiousity, what 1/4 mile times did you trap...   Jan 16, 2007 - 12:15 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(NgoFcukinWay @ Jan 16, 2007 - 12...   Jan 16, 2007 - 6:24 AM
- - 6strngs   something just occured to me. if I have a cali-spe...   Jan 16, 2007 - 12:27 AM
- - 99GT   Dang that was a lot of reading...   Feb 25, 2007 - 12:20 AM
- - Cisco93lude   You have a pm man. Hopefully you can help us out. ...   Mar 4, 2007 - 10:17 PM
|- - Batman722   QUOTE(Cisco93lude @ Mar 4, 2007 - 10...   Mar 7, 2007 - 1:28 AM
- - DG_Performance   Just wondering if you figured out your problem at ...   Mar 7, 2007 - 1:09 AM
- - Batman722   you can T into the coolant lines that go to the th...   Mar 7, 2007 - 2:23 AM
|- - 6strngs   QUOTE(Batman722 @ Mar 6, 2007 - 11:2...   Mar 7, 2007 - 2:39 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(6strngs @ Mar 7, 2007 - 2:39 A...   Mar 7, 2007 - 6:22 AM
- - Valo666   hey manny..you think u can do a full list..like pa...   Mar 19, 2007 - 9:42 PM
- - 99GT   Well so my buddy made 290hp on 98 honda ex motor w...   Apr 6, 2007 - 12:17 AM
- - 99GT   Hey Manny well with all my questions and all your ...   Apr 12, 2007 - 8:04 PM
- - 99GT   QUOTE(presure2 @ May 10, 2005 - 3:33...   Apr 12, 2007 - 8:16 PM
- - presure2   yup. the filter sits over next to where the batter...   Apr 13, 2007 - 5:18 AM
- - shin   ya really need to teflon tape those. or ya be seei...   Apr 13, 2007 - 10:45 AM
|- - 6strngs   QUOTE(shin @ Apr 13, 2007 - 8:45 AM)...   Apr 13, 2007 - 3:14 PM
- - presure2   he actually didnt buy the "kit" he just ...   Apr 13, 2007 - 3:54 PM
- - shin   QUOTE(presure2 @ Apr 13, 2007 - 8:54...   Apr 13, 2007 - 4:16 PM
- - presure2   WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT. wow, 2 years, 5sfte powered...   Jun 12, 2007 - 4:48 PM
|- - 6strngs   QUOTE(presure2 @ Jun 12, 2007 - 2:48...   Jun 13, 2007 - 1:32 AM
||- - 6strngs   QUOTE(6strngs @ Jun 12, 2007 - 11:32...   Jun 13, 2007 - 1:27 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(presure2 @ Jun 12, 2007 - 5:48...   Jun 18, 2007 - 4:25 PM
|- - 6strngs   QUOTE(presure2 @ Jun 18, 2007 - 2:25...   Jun 18, 2007 - 6:52 PM
- - DeW_H0e_GT   HOLY !!!!!   Jun 12, 2007 - 5:33 PM
- - Valo666   dude..after riding in your car..im seriously wanti...   Jun 12, 2007 - 8:01 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(Valo666 @ Jun 12, 2007 - 9:01 ...   Jun 12, 2007 - 10:29 PM
- - jcaron9gt4   HAPPY ANNIVERSARY!!!!!!...   Jun 12, 2007 - 8:25 PM
- - Vissi   Wow, this thread is like one large ball of inspira...   Jun 12, 2007 - 9:59 PM
- - eggman40   Congrats Manny! you Kick as s! I ha...   Jun 13, 2007 - 2:28 AM
- - presure2   well when i said that, i just meant cost wise. the...   Jun 13, 2007 - 5:22 AM
- - x_itchy_b_x   Congrats Manny. 5sfte for life well sorta, it wil...   Jun 13, 2007 - 1:49 PM
- - shin   QUOTE(6strngs @ Jun 13, 2007 - 6:27 ...   Jun 13, 2007 - 3:22 PM
|- - 6strngs   QUOTE(shin @ Jun 13, 2007 - 1:22 PM)...   Jun 13, 2007 - 9:21 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(6strngs @ Jun 13, 2007 - 10:21...   Jun 13, 2007 - 9:56 PM
|- - 6strngs   QUOTE(presure2 @ Jun 13, 2007 - 7:56...   Jun 14, 2007 - 1:33 AM
|- - jcbass7   QUOTE(6strngs @ Jun 14, 2007 - 2:33 ...   Jun 14, 2007 - 9:34 AM
- - eggman40   Thanks for the help   Jun 13, 2007 - 10:52 PM
- - NuclearHappineS   RE: my 5SFTE turbo project   Jun 14, 2007 - 12:01 PM
- - presure2   the motor was already in when i turboed. its 30k o...   Jun 18, 2007 - 7:32 PM
- - CaliJeff   Hey Manny, I tried to call up a mazda dealership, ...   Aug 10, 2007 - 7:57 PM
- - elvasoshexai   ... u can get a set @ the rx7club for $60...   Aug 13, 2007 - 3:31 PM
- - 1bwilson   Its a little late but Happy second birthday Manny   Aug 27, 2007 - 12:42 PM
- - presure2   just a quick update. i moved a few months ago, and...   Nov 11, 2007 - 11:10 AM
- - presure2   finally got all the old pictures back up. damn, i ...   Jan 1, 2008 - 10:31 AM
- - 6strngs   I was just taking a look over the pictures again a...   Jan 1, 2008 - 2:48 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(6strngs @ Jan 1, 2008 - 2:48 P...   Jan 1, 2008 - 2:52 PM
- - 1bwilson   Now its time to go back and edit the quotes with d...   Jan 1, 2008 - 8:10 PM
- - MyFreeCamry   Just to let you know pressure, I have posted the l...   Jan 9, 2008 - 9:23 PM
|- - CaliJeff   QUOTE(MyFreeCamry @ Jan 9, 2008 - 6...   Jan 10, 2008 - 12:59 PM
|- - blckcelica95   QUOTE(CaliJeff @ Jan 10, 2008 - 5:59...   Jan 10, 2008 - 4:55 PM
- - presure2   QUOTE(MyFreeCamry @ Jan 9, 2008 - 9...   Jan 10, 2008 - 5:34 PM
- - 6strngs   X4, without your help I would've never gotten ...   Jan 10, 2008 - 5:54 PM
- - MyFreeCamry   Mine is going to take some time. I am rolling a 9...   Jan 10, 2008 - 8:02 PM
- - Ravie1   *snif snif* *Teary eyes* I think i love you Pressu...   Jan 20, 2008 - 12:31 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(Ravie1 @ Jan 20, 2008 - 12:31 ...   Jan 20, 2008 - 2:58 PM
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- - conv95celica   will a aem fuel ignition controller be okay instea...   Apr 8, 2008 - 10:12 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(conv95celica @ Apr 8, 2008 - 11...   Apr 8, 2008 - 11:10 AM
- - conv95celica   so i am about to flipout cause before i found this...   Apr 8, 2008 - 11:27 AM
|- - 6strngs   QUOTE(conv95celica @ Apr 8, 2008 - 9...   Apr 8, 2008 - 3:48 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(conv95celica @ Apr 8, 2008 - 12...   Apr 8, 2008 - 3:49 PM
|- - DEATH   QUOTE(presure2 @ Apr 8, 2008 - 3:49 ...   Apr 8, 2008 - 3:53 PM
- - conv95celica   so good news i stopped the payment before it went ...   Apr 8, 2008 - 10:04 PM
- - DEATH   Just use the 3S-GTE manifold for now [it's goo...   Apr 9, 2008 - 1:33 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(DEATH @ Apr 9, 2008 - 2:33 AM)...   Apr 9, 2008 - 4:36 PM
|- - 6strngs   QUOTE(presure2 @ Apr 9, 2008 - 2:36 ...   Apr 10, 2008 - 3:51 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(6strngs @ Apr 10, 2008 - 4:51 ...   Apr 10, 2008 - 4:03 PM
- - Cisco93lude   Manny!!! hows it goin man!! ca...   Apr 9, 2008 - 1:45 PM
- - bseaman_5   oops   Apr 10, 2008 - 10:07 PM
- - conv95celica   so i got the best end of the shaft on this one. i ...   Apr 10, 2008 - 10:38 PM
|- - 6strngs   QUOTE(conv95celica @ Apr 10, 2008 - 8...   Apr 11, 2008 - 1:29 AM
- - presure2   WOOOOOOOOOT 3 years, 40,000+ miles, zero failur...   Jun 8, 2008 - 7:41 AM
- - jcaron9gt4   Congrats Manny. And yes, you are the 5sfte king l...   Jun 8, 2008 - 9:25 AM
- - lagos   Congrats bro. Here's to 40,000 more!   Jun 8, 2008 - 9:42 AM
- - x_itchy_b_x   congrats man! glad to so its still working out...   Jun 8, 2008 - 11:25 AM
- - BBoYRuGGeD   very nice very nice! congrats! -bboy   Jun 8, 2008 - 11:36 AM
- - manphibian   A superb example of how this should be done   Jun 8, 2008 - 12:10 PM
- - WALKER   Great work Manny! Congratulations! Keep ...   Jun 9, 2008 - 1:44 PM
- - DEATH   Badass man - I know you give alot of the other wou...   Jun 9, 2008 - 4:10 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (DEATH @ Jun 9, 2008 - 5:10 PM...   Jun 9, 2008 - 4:58 PM
- - supershannon77   OOO I still say it will blow...hahaha awesome Mann...   Jun 9, 2008 - 7:41 PM
- - presure2   hey guys, time for a little bit of an update, and ...   Aug 4, 2008 - 10:22 AM
|- - DEATH   Great work as usual and this should answer D-Man...   Aug 4, 2008 - 11:27 AM
|- - Batman722   QUOTE (DEATH @ Aug 4, 2008 - 12:27 P...   Aug 4, 2008 - 12:36 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE i buttoned it all back up, and had jenn fire...   Aug 4, 2008 - 10:32 AM
- - x_itchy_b_x   Manny something is stuck in your turbo! you mi...   Aug 4, 2008 - 10:51 AM
- - DEATH   Now I find myself wondering if we even need them 9...   Aug 4, 2008 - 1:14 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (DEATH @ Aug 4, 2008 - 2:14 PM...   Aug 4, 2008 - 2:30 PM
- - FunkySR   QUOTE (Batman722 @ Aug 4, 2008 - 6:3...   Aug 4, 2008 - 8:35 PM
- - Dtuner17   would these work for the 5sfte LINK   Sep 2, 2008 - 8:03 PM
|- - 6strngs   QUOTE (Dtuner17 @ Sep 2, 2008 - 6:03...   Sep 2, 2008 - 9:14 PM
- - supershannon77   x2 I had one and it work ok but it gets really ugl...   Sep 2, 2008 - 9:18 PM
- - Dtuner17   which downpipe would you recommend?   Sep 3, 2008 - 1:44 PM
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