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post Apr 2, 2005 - 11:51 AM
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hey guys, since i've been fielding alot of questions about turboing the 5s, and most of the links in the 5sfte sticky are dead, i figured i start a thread about the buildup of my kit, and try to include as many details as possible, so everyone can learn a little more about what exactly goes into a setup like this. ill keep updating the threads and adding pics and stuff as i upload more ect..
im not gonna get into the whole why not swap a 3s instead debate here, thats a dead issue as far as im concerned. (not that i think swapping is a bad idea, just not for me.)
so, ill start off by saying the single most important thing you can do if you wanna turbo your 5s is RESEARCH! take your time, learn about the diffrent systems that all work together to make a good kit work. go to www.howstuffworks.com and find out how EVERYTHING works, it'll make understanding the hows and whys of everything so much easier. i've been reserching about this for 2+yrs and i STILL learn new things everyday.
#2 is DONT BE CHEAP...can you do it cheap? yea..will it last? prolly not.
thats gotta be the SINGLE biggest mistake i see EVERYONE make. cheap out on all the little stuff, and it WILL come back to haunt you in the end

that said, i decided i wanted to turbo my 5s. lol wink.gif
so, off on the hunt i went...parts lists, install sites, the burien kit...i searched it ALLLLLL...for MONTHS!! talking to people, looking at sites, printing info..basicly what the old timers call "goin to the woodshed"
then, i started looking for parts:
3s exhaust manifold, ct-26 turbo, oil hard lines, elbow and primary cat (also known as a downpipe), if your not planning on getting a aftermarket downpipe. also the oil pan and 2bar map sensor.
your gonna want these off of a 2nd gen 3sgte from a 90-93 alltrac or mr2T, and are pretty easy finds over on www.alltrac.net and or www.mr2oc.com. if your not a member of these 2 sites, YOU SHOULD BE!!! theres a wealth of info on these to sites, and while alot of it may not be 5sfte spacific, its still VERY good info, especially the 90-99 mr2/ 3sgte forum.
next was injectors. there is ALOT of confusion here, where to find them, what they look like, what size are they really ect.
what we're looking for is the MKIII N/A supra injectors. not turbo injectors, not alltrac injectors, N/A MKIII supra. theyre a lime green color, and 315cc. just to clear up another point of confusion, they do NOT become bigger injectors in our cars. the fuel pressure between the n/a supra and the 5s is the SAME.
there is a pic in the 5sfte sticky of what they look like and the flow tests to show it.
i found mine on ebay, but you can sometimes find them on some of the boards ive mentioned, and the supraforums.
also, i really reccomend having the injectors cleaned and balanced once you get them, if you look closley at the printout for my injectors in the sticky from when i had them cleaned and balanced, youll see why i say this.
one of my injectors wasnt even spraying, it was DRIPPING before it was cleaned. i'd HATE to see what would happen if i'd installed that thing in there and cranked up the boost! wink.gif
so yea, i really cant stress enough, HAVE YOUR INJECTORS CLEANED BEFORE YOU INSTALL THEM!!! www.rceng.com did an excelent job on mine for about 100$, and ive heard thru the mr2 board that www.witchhunter.com also does a very good job, and are only 12$ per injector.

EDIT!!! 315CC injectors are TOO SMALL for use in a turbo 5sfe. 460cc rx7 injectors are a drop in replacement and are discribed later in this post!!!


you'll also need to upgrade your fuel pump, use the 255lph walboro supra pump. you can get it for under 100 usually on ebay., and pretty much bolts in.
next for me was the intercooler..now contrary to popular belief, bigger IS NOT always better when it comes to intercoolers.
you wanna choose the smallest intercooler to fit your needs, with a LITTLE room for growth. for instance, in my case, my goal is around 190-200whp for now, so i chose a intercooler thats 26x6x3 overall length, with endtanks. its good for up to 300hp. why not somthing bigger? well, the #1 reason is theres no NEED for anything bigger. lol the bigger you go, the more pressure drop you have, and thats not what we want. with all the piping invloved for a 5sfte FMIC, the last then we want is some big honking core, sucking up 2-3 or more psi of the boost we wanna get to our engines.
for the piping, again, bigger is NOT always better. 2" or 2.25 " is more than sufficent for us. you'll need to buy pre-bent lengths and cut and fit them for your particular setup. jcwhitney is cheap for aluminized steel, or burns stainless if you want stainless pipes.
then the noise maker of the bunch wink.gif , the BOV...your choice here, i chose the HKS SSQV... got it from ebay for 190+ shipping i think it was..just make sure your buying the real thing if its from ebay, theres alot of shady copys floating around. youll also need a mounting flange to have welded to your intercooler piping, make sure you get the correct size and material to match your piping. wink.gif
TOO BE CONTINUED... biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by presure2: Nov 11, 2007 - 10:53 AM


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- presure2   my 5SFTE turbo project   Apr 2, 2005 - 11:51 AM
- - 97lestyousay   I am not sure on boosted motors but seating rings ...   Apr 15, 2009 - 11:50 PM
- - enderswift   I look forward to an update everytime i get on 6gc...   Apr 17, 2009 - 11:55 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (enderswift @ Apr 17, 2009 - 11...   Apr 18, 2009 - 5:13 AM
- - presure2   motor is finally off the stand. WOOT. ill reinsta...   Apr 19, 2009 - 5:37 AM
- - 97celiman   why get rid of the ABS?   Apr 19, 2009 - 3:48 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (97celiman @ Apr 19, 2009 - 3...   Apr 19, 2009 - 6:46 PM
- - 97celiman   ahhh well i guess that makes sense then.   Apr 19, 2009 - 8:18 PM
- - bccentaur3   GOSH!!! Everything looks soo clean Man...   Apr 19, 2009 - 9:00 PM
- - RUNNIN-LOW   hey pressure? let me know how u removed your abs i...   Apr 20, 2009 - 8:52 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (RUNNIN-LOW @ Apr 20, 2009 - ...   Apr 20, 2009 - 5:12 PM
|- - hurley97   QUOTE (RUNNIN-LOW @ Apr 20, 2009 - ...   Apr 24, 2009 - 9:32 AM
- - DEATH   Fcuk yeah - looks really nice P. Can't wait to...   Apr 20, 2009 - 9:11 AM
- - presure2   oil lines are set, axles ect are in...just a few m...   Apr 22, 2009 - 4:18 PM
- - Defgeph   Nice man. Cant wait to see it rolling again!...   Apr 22, 2009 - 5:36 PM
- - samir0189   for no more blue valve cover. Everything else lo...   Apr 22, 2009 - 6:04 PM
- - bccentaur3   Manny, don't you have a heat shield for that t...   Apr 22, 2009 - 9:03 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (bccentaur3 @ Apr 22, 2009 - 9...   Apr 23, 2009 - 4:55 AM
- - trdproven   solid   Apr 23, 2009 - 12:16 PM
- - bmrabb   Looks like you'll be back up and running soon....   Apr 24, 2009 - 9:35 AM
- - lagos   I like the new spot for the oil filter much more t...   Apr 24, 2009 - 10:45 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (lagos @ Apr 24, 2009 - 10:45 ...   Apr 25, 2009 - 4:58 AM
- - 95st-celica   art, a rag under the filter when you pull it off w...   Apr 24, 2009 - 11:51 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (95st-celica @ Apr 25, 2009 ...   Apr 24, 2009 - 11:56 PM
- - trdproven   good job, i thought the project was slowing down f...   Apr 25, 2009 - 8:30 AM
- - 6strngs   Nice! now you just need to take the long way h...   Apr 25, 2009 - 4:23 PM
- - presure2   RE: my 5SFTE turbo project   Apr 25, 2009 - 7:50 PM
- - 97lestyousay   Sounds good Manny, nice work. I friggen love that...   Apr 25, 2009 - 8:21 PM
- - Batman722   damn that's quiet !!   Apr 25, 2009 - 9:57 PM
- - Smaay   sounds good! i have serious valve tic in mine ...   Apr 26, 2009 - 11:34 AM
- - presure2   shes got ~10miles on her now, runs great, everythi...   Apr 26, 2009 - 6:05 PM
- - Bigblock   Bitchin'!!   Apr 26, 2009 - 9:22 PM
- - enderswift   finding that blown fuse must of been a "hmm...   Apr 26, 2009 - 11:08 PM
- - d0w0rkS0n   Awesome work manny! glad to see its up n run...   Apr 30, 2009 - 9:02 AM
- - presure2   almost at 100 miles, runs great! a pic i forg...   May 1, 2009 - 5:58 AM
- - RUNNIN-LOW   man your engine looks great!!!!...   May 1, 2009 - 7:16 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (RUNNIN-LOW @ May 1, 2009 - 7...   May 1, 2009 - 7:33 AM
- - Muggs   I have my EGR blocked off in the same way, I very ...   May 1, 2009 - 9:22 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (Muggs @ May 1, 2009 - 9:22 AM...   May 1, 2009 - 9:26 AM
- - DEATH   That does look exactly like the EGR block off plat...   May 1, 2009 - 10:48 AM
- - lburner   whats the point for del the egr setup?   May 2, 2009 - 1:36 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (lburner @ May 2, 2009 - 1:36 ...   May 2, 2009 - 3:35 PM
|- - DEATH   QUOTE (presure2 @ May 2, 2009 - 3:35...   May 2, 2009 - 4:26 PM
- - lagos   You got that thing in/out and rebuilt really quick...   May 2, 2009 - 1:38 PM
- - lburner   icic...   May 3, 2009 - 11:10 PM
- - presure2   changed the oil yesterday @ 270miles, just about n...   May 8, 2009 - 8:24 AM
- - Drew-887   How much more power with this beast have? Also wil...   May 8, 2009 - 2:12 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (Drew-887 @ May 8, 2009 - 2...   May 11, 2009 - 11:40 AM
- - _Jim_   Good to hear the motor is running well Manny   May 8, 2009 - 9:10 PM
- - Smaay   I only use OEM filters   May 8, 2009 - 9:11 PM
- - DEATH   P - it's because ALL toyota filters use a chec...   May 11, 2009 - 4:03 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (DEATH @ May 11, 2009 - 4:03 P...   May 13, 2009 - 6:41 AM
- - Nightmarez   Im new here and have been doing some research but ...   May 13, 2009 - 8:47 AM
|- - Smaay   QUOTE (Nightmarez @ May 13, 2009 - 6...   May 13, 2009 - 9:38 AM
- - Nightmarez   What should the compression be on the 5sfe?   May 14, 2009 - 10:33 AM
|- - 6strngs   QUOTE (Nightmarez @ May 14, 2009 - 8...   May 14, 2009 - 12:18 PM
- - presure2   come on guys, lets keep non related stuff in seper...   May 14, 2009 - 12:35 PM
- - presure2   we finally made it over to the dyno today set it ...   Jun 20, 2009 - 4:18 PM
|- - GMan   QUOTE (presure2 @ Jun 20, 2009 - 5:1...   Jun 20, 2009 - 8:19 PM
- - trdproven   damn, nice numbers there bud, now go and battle th...   Jun 20, 2009 - 4:40 PM
- - lagos   the O.G. stepping up to the plate yet again to sho...   Jun 20, 2009 - 8:07 PM
- - 95st-celica   woooow....nice numbers on the 5s manny   Jun 20, 2009 - 8:20 PM
- - presure2   thanks guys! yea, brian, 2nd gear is pretty m...   Jun 20, 2009 - 8:24 PM
- - hurley97   Damn... does this mean I have to get my 7A over 30...   Jun 20, 2009 - 8:41 PM
- - elvasoshexai   wow, that is VERY impressive! AWESOME work the...   Jun 21, 2009 - 1:34 AM
- - FunkySR   wow. awesome.   Jun 21, 2009 - 8:25 AM
- - supershannon77   I am loving it Manny!!!! Loving t...   Jun 21, 2009 - 10:29 AM
- - presure2   a quick vid i threw together this am: http://www.y...   Jun 21, 2009 - 10:39 AM
- - lagos   thats one fast celica!   Jun 21, 2009 - 12:12 PM
- - _Jim_   WOOHOO 5SFTE for the win. 20psi, truly amazing ho...   Jun 21, 2009 - 12:23 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Jun 21, 2009 - 12:23 ...   Jun 21, 2009 - 12:31 PM
- - lagos   you should get a bigger nozzle so that you can run...   Jun 21, 2009 - 12:45 PM
- - 97lestyousay   Nice run and vid. She is a stump puller. When ar...   Jun 21, 2009 - 3:04 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (97lestyousay @ Jun 21, 2009 - 4...   Jun 21, 2009 - 5:11 PM
|- - _Jim_   QUOTE (lagos @ Jun 21, 2009 - 6:11 P...   Jun 21, 2009 - 5:19 PM
- - 97lestyousay   Yeah, I'm sure Tufy and a few others have too....   Jun 21, 2009 - 6:32 PM
- - jcaron9gt4   Looks good manny   Jun 21, 2009 - 8:41 PM
- - presure2   guys, this isnt a 3s vs 5s debate. we all know the...   Jun 21, 2009 - 10:08 PM
- - laff09   Now all you need is a new sig.. Awesome work dude   Jun 22, 2009 - 1:22 AM
- - Defgeph   Gawd Dayum ... Very impressive!!   Jun 22, 2009 - 2:08 AM
- - _Jim_   Very impressive results indeed. Manny where did y...   Jun 22, 2009 - 6:01 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Jun 22, 2009 - 6:01 A...   Jun 22, 2009 - 6:09 AM
- - _Jim_   VERY nice results Manny, car has to be a blast on ...   Jun 22, 2009 - 6:32 AM
- - presure2   here is the pump gas tune i had on it when i first...   Jun 22, 2009 - 6:57 AM
- - RUNNIN-LOW   WOW!!!! 5s is getting up there...   Jun 22, 2009 - 7:49 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (RUNNIN-LOW @ Jun 22, 2009 - ...   Jun 22, 2009 - 8:18 AM
- - RUNNIN-LOW   gosh you are pushing SO much torque! the thing...   Jun 22, 2009 - 8:35 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE (presure2 @ Jun 22, 2009 - 7:0...   Jun 22, 2009 - 9:16 AM
- - freddy121389   does the engine movement show up on your dyno? so...   Jun 22, 2009 - 9:37 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (freddy121389 @ Jun 22, 2009 - 9...   Jun 23, 2009 - 5:40 AM
- - Johnnyny   very inspiring post I am just starting to do my re...   Jun 28, 2009 - 10:09 PM
- - macavely   Manny/Jenn... Seeing that vid and looking at those...   Jun 30, 2009 - 6:51 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (macavely @ Jun 30, 2009 - 6:5...   Jun 30, 2009 - 6:56 AM
- - macavely   Yea I'm not going anywhere... lol.... I'm ...   Jun 30, 2009 - 7:16 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (macavely @ Jun 30, 2009 - 7:1...   Jun 30, 2009 - 7:29 AM
- - macavely   wow, how old is your old daughter now ? ... and wh...   Jun 30, 2009 - 7:35 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (macavely @ Jun 30, 2009 - 7:3...   Jun 30, 2009 - 7:56 AM
- - ravinaziankid   Hey, this is a great write up..helped me prepare f...   Sep 16, 2009 - 10:49 AM
- - bccentaur3   NO NO NO!! The fitting needs to go where y...   Sep 16, 2009 - 10:59 AM
|- - ravinaziankid   QUOTE (bccentaur3 @ Sep 16, 2009 - 11...   Sep 16, 2009 - 11:36 AM
- - enderswift   O.o ??? is that torque damper supposed to control ...   Sep 16, 2009 - 11:21 AM
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