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hey guys, since i've been fielding alot of questions about turboing the 5s, and most of the links in the 5sfte sticky are dead, i figured i start a thread about the buildup of my kit, and try to include as many details as possible, so everyone can learn a little more about what exactly goes into a setup like this. ill keep updating the threads and adding pics and stuff as i upload more ect..
im not gonna get into the whole why not swap a 3s instead debate here, thats a dead issue as far as im concerned. (not that i think swapping is a bad idea, just not for me.) so, ill start off by saying the single most important thing you can do if you wanna turbo your 5s is RESEARCH! take your time, learn about the diffrent systems that all work together to make a good kit work. go to www.howstuffworks.com and find out how EVERYTHING works, it'll make understanding the hows and whys of everything so much easier. i've been reserching about this for 2+yrs and i STILL learn new things everyday. #2 is DONT BE CHEAP...can you do it cheap? yea..will it last? prolly not. thats gotta be the SINGLE biggest mistake i see EVERYONE make. cheap out on all the little stuff, and it WILL come back to haunt you in the end that said, i decided i wanted to turbo my 5s. lol so, off on the hunt i went...parts lists, install sites, the burien kit...i searched it ALLLLLL...for MONTHS!! talking to people, looking at sites, printing info..basicly what the old timers call "goin to the woodshed" then, i started looking for parts: 3s exhaust manifold, ct-26 turbo, oil hard lines, elbow and primary cat (also known as a downpipe), if your not planning on getting a aftermarket downpipe. also the oil pan and 2bar map sensor. your gonna want these off of a 2nd gen 3sgte from a 90-93 alltrac or mr2T, and are pretty easy finds over on www.alltrac.net and or www.mr2oc.com. if your not a member of these 2 sites, YOU SHOULD BE!!! theres a wealth of info on these to sites, and while alot of it may not be 5sfte spacific, its still VERY good info, especially the 90-99 mr2/ 3sgte forum. next was injectors. there is ALOT of confusion here, where to find them, what they look like, what size are they really ect. what we're looking for is the MKIII N/A supra injectors. not turbo injectors, not alltrac injectors, N/A MKIII supra. theyre a lime green color, and 315cc. just to clear up another point of confusion, they do NOT become bigger injectors in our cars. the fuel pressure between the n/a supra and the 5s is the SAME. there is a pic in the 5sfte sticky of what they look like and the flow tests to show it. i found mine on ebay, but you can sometimes find them on some of the boards ive mentioned, and the supraforums. also, i really reccomend having the injectors cleaned and balanced once you get them, if you look closley at the printout for my injectors in the sticky from when i had them cleaned and balanced, youll see why i say this. one of my injectors wasnt even spraying, it was DRIPPING before it was cleaned. i'd HATE to see what would happen if i'd installed that thing in there and cranked up the boost! so yea, i really cant stress enough, HAVE YOUR INJECTORS CLEANED BEFORE YOU INSTALL THEM!!! www.rceng.com did an excelent job on mine for about 100$, and ive heard thru the mr2 board that www.witchhunter.com also does a very good job, and are only 12$ per injector. EDIT!!! 315CC injectors are TOO SMALL for use in a turbo 5sfe. 460cc rx7 injectors are a drop in replacement and are discribed later in this post!!! you'll also need to upgrade your fuel pump, use the 255lph walboro supra pump. you can get it for under 100 usually on ebay., and pretty much bolts in. next for me was the intercooler..now contrary to popular belief, bigger IS NOT always better when it comes to intercoolers. you wanna choose the smallest intercooler to fit your needs, with a LITTLE room for growth. for instance, in my case, my goal is around 190-200whp for now, so i chose a intercooler thats 26x6x3 overall length, with endtanks. its good for up to 300hp. why not somthing bigger? well, the #1 reason is theres no NEED for anything bigger. lol the bigger you go, the more pressure drop you have, and thats not what we want. with all the piping invloved for a 5sfte FMIC, the last then we want is some big honking core, sucking up 2-3 or more psi of the boost we wanna get to our engines. for the piping, again, bigger is NOT always better. 2" or 2.25 " is more than sufficent for us. you'll need to buy pre-bent lengths and cut and fit them for your particular setup. jcwhitney is cheap for aluminized steel, or burns stainless if you want stainless pipes. then the noise maker of the bunch TOO BE CONTINUED... This post has been edited by presure2: Nov 11, 2007 - 10:53 AM -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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presure2 my 5SFTE turbo project Apr 2, 2005 - 11:51 AM
97lestyousay I am not sure on boosted motors but seating rings ... Apr 15, 2009 - 11:50 PM
enderswift I look forward to an update everytime i get on 6gc... Apr 17, 2009 - 11:55 PM
presure2 QUOTE (enderswift @ Apr 17, 2009 - 11... Apr 18, 2009 - 5:13 AM
presure2 motor is finally off the stand.
WOOT.
ill reinsta... Apr 19, 2009 - 5:37 AM
97celiman why get rid of the ABS? Apr 19, 2009 - 3:48 PM
presure2 QUOTE (97celiman @ Apr 19, 2009 - 3... Apr 19, 2009 - 6:46 PM
97celiman ahhh well i guess that makes sense then. Apr 19, 2009 - 8:18 PM
bccentaur3 GOSH!!! Everything looks soo clean Man... Apr 19, 2009 - 9:00 PM
RUNNIN-LOW hey pressure? let me know how u removed your abs i... Apr 20, 2009 - 8:52 AM
presure2 QUOTE (RUNNIN-LOW @ Apr 20, 2009 - ... Apr 20, 2009 - 5:12 PM
hurley97 QUOTE (RUNNIN-LOW @ Apr 20, 2009 - ... Apr 24, 2009 - 9:32 AM
DEATH Fcuk yeah - looks really nice P. Can't wait to... Apr 20, 2009 - 9:11 AM
presure2 oil lines are set, axles ect are in...just a few m... Apr 22, 2009 - 4:18 PM
Defgeph Nice man. Cant wait to see it rolling again!... Apr 22, 2009 - 5:36 PM
samir0189 for no more blue valve cover.
Everything else lo... Apr 22, 2009 - 6:04 PM
bccentaur3 Manny, don't you have a heat shield for that t... Apr 22, 2009 - 9:03 PM
presure2 QUOTE (bccentaur3 @ Apr 22, 2009 - 9... Apr 23, 2009 - 4:55 AM
trdproven solid Apr 23, 2009 - 12:16 PM
bmrabb Looks like you'll be back up and running soon.... Apr 24, 2009 - 9:35 AM
lagos I like the new spot for the oil filter much more t... Apr 24, 2009 - 10:45 PM
presure2 QUOTE (lagos @ Apr 24, 2009 - 10:45 ... Apr 25, 2009 - 4:58 AM
95st-celica art, a rag under the filter when you pull it off w... Apr 24, 2009 - 11:51 PM
lagos QUOTE (95st-celica @ Apr 25, 2009 ... Apr 24, 2009 - 11:56 PM
trdproven good job, i thought the project was slowing down f... Apr 25, 2009 - 8:30 AM
6strngs Nice! now you just need to take the long way h... Apr 25, 2009 - 4:23 PM
presure2 RE: my 5SFTE turbo project Apr 25, 2009 - 7:50 PM
97lestyousay Sounds good Manny, nice work. I friggen love that... Apr 25, 2009 - 8:21 PM
Batman722 damn that's quiet !! Apr 25, 2009 - 9:57 PM
Smaay sounds good! i have serious valve tic in mine ... Apr 26, 2009 - 11:34 AM
presure2 shes got ~10miles on her now, runs great, everythi... Apr 26, 2009 - 6:05 PM
Bigblock Bitchin'!! Apr 26, 2009 - 9:22 PM
enderswift finding that blown fuse must of been a "hmm... Apr 26, 2009 - 11:08 PM
d0w0rkS0n Awesome work manny! glad to see its up n run... Apr 30, 2009 - 9:02 AM
presure2 almost at 100 miles, runs great!
a pic i forg... May 1, 2009 - 5:58 AM
RUNNIN-LOW man your engine looks great!!!!... May 1, 2009 - 7:16 AM
presure2 QUOTE (RUNNIN-LOW @ May 1, 2009 - 7... May 1, 2009 - 7:33 AM
Muggs I have my EGR blocked off in the same way, I very ... May 1, 2009 - 9:22 AM
presure2 QUOTE (Muggs @ May 1, 2009 - 9:22 AM... May 1, 2009 - 9:26 AM
DEATH That does look exactly like the EGR block off plat... May 1, 2009 - 10:48 AM
lburner whats the point for del the egr setup? May 2, 2009 - 1:36 PM
presure2 QUOTE (lburner @ May 2, 2009 - 1:36 ... May 2, 2009 - 3:35 PM
DEATH QUOTE (presure2 @ May 2, 2009 - 3:35... May 2, 2009 - 4:26 PM
lagos You got that thing in/out and rebuilt really quick... May 2, 2009 - 1:38 PM
lburner icic... May 3, 2009 - 11:10 PM
presure2 changed the oil yesterday @ 270miles, just about n... May 8, 2009 - 8:24 AM
Drew-887 How much more power with this beast have? Also wil... May 8, 2009 - 2:12 PM
presure2 QUOTE (Drew-887 @ May 8, 2009 - 2... May 11, 2009 - 11:40 AM
_Jim_ Good to hear the motor is running well Manny May 8, 2009 - 9:10 PM
Smaay I only use OEM filters May 8, 2009 - 9:11 PM
DEATH P - it's because ALL toyota filters use a chec... May 11, 2009 - 4:03 PM
presure2 QUOTE (DEATH @ May 11, 2009 - 4:03 P... May 13, 2009 - 6:41 AM
Nightmarez Im new here and have been doing some research but ... May 13, 2009 - 8:47 AM
Smaay QUOTE (Nightmarez @ May 13, 2009 - 6... May 13, 2009 - 9:38 AM
Nightmarez What should the compression be on the 5sfe? May 14, 2009 - 10:33 AM
6strngs QUOTE (Nightmarez @ May 14, 2009 - 8... May 14, 2009 - 12:18 PM
presure2 come on guys, lets keep non related stuff in seper... May 14, 2009 - 12:35 PM
presure2 we finally made it over to the dyno today
set it ... Jun 20, 2009 - 4:18 PM
GMan QUOTE (presure2 @ Jun 20, 2009 - 5:1... Jun 20, 2009 - 8:19 PM
trdproven damn, nice numbers there bud, now go and battle th... Jun 20, 2009 - 4:40 PM
lagos the O.G. stepping up to the plate yet again to sho... Jun 20, 2009 - 8:07 PM
95st-celica woooow....nice numbers on the 5s manny Jun 20, 2009 - 8:20 PM
presure2 thanks guys!
yea, brian, 2nd gear is pretty m... Jun 20, 2009 - 8:24 PM
hurley97 Damn... does this mean I have to get my 7A over 30... Jun 20, 2009 - 8:41 PM
elvasoshexai wow, that is VERY impressive! AWESOME work the... Jun 21, 2009 - 1:34 AM
FunkySR wow. awesome. Jun 21, 2009 - 8:25 AM
supershannon77 I am loving it Manny!!!!
Loving t... Jun 21, 2009 - 10:29 AM
presure2 a quick vid i threw together this am:
http://www.y... Jun 21, 2009 - 10:39 AM
lagos thats one fast celica! Jun 21, 2009 - 12:12 PM
_Jim_ WOOHOO 5SFTE for the win. 20psi, truly amazing ho... Jun 21, 2009 - 12:23 PM
presure2 QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Jun 21, 2009 - 12:23 ... Jun 21, 2009 - 12:31 PM
lagos you should get a bigger nozzle so that you can run... Jun 21, 2009 - 12:45 PM
97lestyousay Nice run and vid. She is a stump puller. When ar... Jun 21, 2009 - 3:04 PM
lagos QUOTE (97lestyousay @ Jun 21, 2009 - 4... Jun 21, 2009 - 5:11 PM
_Jim_ QUOTE (lagos @ Jun 21, 2009 - 6:11 P... Jun 21, 2009 - 5:19 PM
97lestyousay Yeah, I'm sure Tufy and a few others have too.... Jun 21, 2009 - 6:32 PM
jcaron9gt4 Looks good manny Jun 21, 2009 - 8:41 PM
presure2 guys, this isnt a 3s vs 5s debate.
we all know the... Jun 21, 2009 - 10:08 PM
laff09 Now all you need is a new sig.. Awesome work dude Jun 22, 2009 - 1:22 AM
Defgeph Gawd Dayum ... Very impressive!! Jun 22, 2009 - 2:08 AM
_Jim_ Very impressive results indeed. Manny where did y... Jun 22, 2009 - 6:01 AM
presure2 QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Jun 22, 2009 - 6:01 A... Jun 22, 2009 - 6:09 AM
_Jim_ VERY nice results Manny, car has to be a blast on ... Jun 22, 2009 - 6:32 AM
presure2 here is the pump gas tune i had on it when i first... Jun 22, 2009 - 6:57 AM
RUNNIN-LOW WOW!!!! 5s is getting up there... Jun 22, 2009 - 7:49 AM
presure2 QUOTE (RUNNIN-LOW @ Jun 22, 2009 - ... Jun 22, 2009 - 8:18 AM
RUNNIN-LOW gosh you are pushing SO much torque! the thing... Jun 22, 2009 - 8:35 AM
lagos QUOTE (presure2 @ Jun 22, 2009 - 7:0... Jun 22, 2009 - 9:16 AM
freddy121389 does the engine movement show up on your dyno? so... Jun 22, 2009 - 9:37 PM
presure2 QUOTE (freddy121389 @ Jun 22, 2009 - 9... Jun 23, 2009 - 5:40 AM
Johnnyny very inspiring post I am just starting to do my re... Jun 28, 2009 - 10:09 PM
macavely Manny/Jenn... Seeing that vid and looking at those... Jun 30, 2009 - 6:51 AM
presure2 QUOTE (macavely @ Jun 30, 2009 - 6:5... Jun 30, 2009 - 6:56 AM
macavely Yea I'm not going anywhere... lol.... I'm ... Jun 30, 2009 - 7:16 AM
presure2 QUOTE (macavely @ Jun 30, 2009 - 7:1... Jun 30, 2009 - 7:29 AM
macavely wow, how old is your old daughter now ? ... and wh... Jun 30, 2009 - 7:35 AM
presure2 QUOTE (macavely @ Jun 30, 2009 - 7:3... Jun 30, 2009 - 7:56 AM
ravinaziankid Hey, this is a great write up..helped me prepare f... Sep 16, 2009 - 10:49 AM
bccentaur3 NO NO NO!! The fitting needs to go where y... Sep 16, 2009 - 10:59 AM
ravinaziankid QUOTE (bccentaur3 @ Sep 16, 2009 - 11... Sep 16, 2009 - 11:36 AM
enderswift O.o ??? is that torque damper supposed to control ... Sep 16, 2009 - 11:21 AM![]() ![]() |
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