the cops suck thread, why Options

[darksecret]

So did that sound Ignorant? Im sure it did. Guess what? it sounds JUST as ignorant when people say they have a right to play the race card... You end up looking just as stupid as the person who supposedely judges you... making assumpions about why things happen to only YOU and playing it off because "im not white" is idiotic... And a quick question- Since when does geography dictate how good of a driver you are? Im just curiois, because im ASSUMING that it prolly works just like how female drivers always are horrible drivers
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Actually that wouldn't suprise me at all if a cop pulled somebody for their music and style, look at Mischief Destroy, they pulled a Ferrari F50 for 70 in a 65 because he was driving an F50 and got it on film. They were also pulling an Audi over constantly and everyone else was doing the same speed, why the Audi, why not the rig that was in front of him, it's all on film though. You didn't sound like an a** making that statement because maybe the cop was homophobic, most people of authority (police, military) tend to be Republican and the Republican view is that homosexuality is wrong, anyways the cop found a reason to pull you over but maybe 5 over wasn't his real reason, problem is it happens.

The geography doesn't dictate how good of a driver I am, it dictates that we have a lot of ways to learn how to drive and race since Charlotte is the racing capital of the US, but that wasn't what I was trying to say, it's that NC is so bent on trying to be up California's a** that everytime they come out with a new law we have to adopt it, when San Diego police went on a rampage pulling over everyone with an aftermarket exhaust, NC did the same thing, h*** we have our own anti-street racing task force consisting of a number of performance cars to go out and street race against people, I just feel sorry for the person crossing the street when one of those idiots hits them trying to get a Hyundai Excel to run them on the busiest highway in the state. Ask easternpiro1 about rules that we use, after a run he came back doing almost 60 and I wanted to rip him a new one for it, what if someone walked across he could have hit them, I couldn't do anything though because I didn't organize that event, everyone else does about 35 coming back and when they get to the starting line they slow to about 10-15 just like pulling through a parking lot. Everyone assumes that people die in organized street racing, you know so and so died due to a street racing related accident, but they couldn't tell you about the thousands of other event going on the same night, most of the street racing death stories come from kids that had their parents buy them some IS300 or STi and they think they're Andreti getting on the highway trying to race everybody, I want the cops to bust them, they're racing in a very populated area being stupid, around here people love to cut others off and people love to tailgate so that's why I keep it off the main road, not to mention that unless you live in the same city a federal politician our roads look like a**.

[SexyCelica]

well i can talk to whoever i want and u seemed to have the stupidest most ignorant response so i picked u. and i really hope somethin bad happens to you and no one helps.
good luck with life


What are you some lonely prick? Just for making your comment about something bad happening to me, the laws of karma are going to 3-fold that on you.
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ahahah something bad happening to you??? omg some one talked to ur girlfriend OMG!!! do u want victim councilling??????


Whoever said somethin about the laser... if u see them they ve already tagged u,, if u have a detector their radar gun reads error and they pull u over cause then they know u have a detector or jammer. thus dont be stupid and u wont get pulled over simple as that.
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sexycelica yer the biggest idiot 2 come on these boards get yer facts straight before you shoot yer bs
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hmm lets see how many radar / lasers have u operated????? cause ya know from the ones i ve used thats what they do. what did the ones u operated do????
and if u havent used one before then just plz stfu,
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What your a cop now? you dont even have a 6th gen celica you moron.
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ive done training with them numptard and how do u know what i drive??? and it doesnt matter, this about cops and how people are sometimes ignorant when it comes to cops,

so what only u can have an opinion oh great one?!?!?

nice post seleeka- that was probably the most impacting reply
read it and think about it,

[Andason]

You'll be quick to learn Andason that I can be just as relentless, I don't pull the race card about indians, most indians don't, but they have a right to because we didn't get taken from our land and brought here, we were here first and were slaughtered for it. Don't try to pull that "the indians fought back " crap either, there was only one hostile tribe in the state of North Carolina and a handful on the East Coast.

Did you get YOUR land taken away? End of story. OMG PEOPLE TOOK OUR LAND IN A WAR!!! Now they are going to give us reparations. WE HAVE IT SO BAD! If anything Indians have it better than whites. I have Ho-Chunk friends who get 20,000 a year just for being 1/4 Indian. Must be rough.

Are you trying to say cops can be trained street racers, you're B/Sing me, so what do they do sit behind the station and practice burnouts, you're putting your foot in your mouth saying it's all right for cops to do it and not a normal person can't, and yes I have plenty of experience racing (hello this is Charlotte: Lowe's, the Rock, hell all we need is a dog track and we'll have them all) and yes for a small price you can run on any of the tracks around here. I can tell you haven't got any experience in racing, just because people who do aren't against it as much as you. I've seen the stats on street racing deaths in Charlotte and I stand a better chance of getting struck by lightning.

I do not know why you are SET in this corrupt cop business. Yup, cops just hop in a car and they are ready to hit the streets. They have training courses in cars. I don't have any experience in racing. I do not really care either. I do not care what your "statistics" are. ONE DEATH FROM SOMETHING AS STUPID AS STREET RACING IS ONE TOO MANY. Once again, when the irony occurs of you having someone close die because of some idiot racer let me know how you feel about your precious street racing.

You come from halfway across the country talking like you know North Carolina law because you are trying to get a piece of paper saying you know a little about law,(there's more than one way to learn about law), and you're no lawyer and you're no judge,  I see what goes on in court because of a ticket or to report a break in that our wonderful police department can't seem to deal with since East Charlotte is such a s*** hole trying to stop all those teenagers from taking the last dounut at Krispy Kreame. You check this place out one time, car thefts and murder has gone up, but they sure as h*** won't let the speeders get away since 1 out of every 120,000 speeders actually causes a serious accident.

Once again, ONE TOO MANY DEATHS. Have you ever had someone close to you die over something stupid? A drunk driver? Etc? I am far more educated about law. You may think you are just a super great person but you couldn't explain anything. It's the internet... I have my JD. I have 5 doctorates. You can say what you want to, but your speech is not really backing up your words. I see no evidence of any post education and quite honestly your arguements are very pathetic.

I won't admit i'm wrong for the simple fact that maybe one day it will catch up with me and maybe I'LL be killed by running into a 3" curb in a street race (sarcasm people)

Wow, I find your sarcasm sooooo funny. I could say the genocide of Indians was funny. How does that sound? I'm sure someone has died that way so it isn't too fun to joke around with.

Listen pull your head out of Bushs' a** and open your eyes, this world isn't perfect and you're the only one who seems to think that cops are perfect and if you get a ticket you did something wrong, even people who are against me make good points, but you seem to be stuck on there's no such thing as racist cops, and if you street race you will kill yourself and somebody, forums are about opinions and you won't change mine regardless and you still haven't proven me wrong because I know street racing is wrong and a couple hundred people in this world have died this year because of it, hell Bush was wrong for attacking Iraq and killing thousands of innocent people, but we'll just call the schools and homes collateral damage so it doesn't sound like genocide.

I love it. Have you heard of the liberation of Iraq? I have many friends over there who actually work with these people. Do you work with these people? No. I love it how people complain about this "war" and how people are dying while they sit on their ass and get fatter. Everyone seems to forget the fact that these people who are dying SIGNED UP FOR THE MILITARY. They signed a paper saying "I will fight for my country and will die for it." No one forced them. Please remember that Bush isn't killing these people. Sort of like the saying "guns don't kill people, people kill people." I also love it how you go for the Bush kill. I agree with what he is doing, he didn't do it in the most clean way, but he got away with it. You can thank him for taking Saddam out of power later when you aren't paying 5 dollars a gallon for gasoline.

See I care if someone dies if I race and that is why it's called organized street racing, and yes there is a risk in doing it, but there is also a risk going to Pageland drag strip 15 minutes south and you do a bracket race against a 12 second car and they roll it halfway down the track hitting you and since Pageland's only rule is you must wear some form of helmet, they lose their life because they have no roll cage since it isn't required and you lose yours because there is no barrier between you and the opponent. When you move to this area and spend a few years here, check out a couple of the organized street races to see that we do have our own set of rules, and spend about 50+ hours in a North Carolina courtroom then come talk to me about things being perfect.
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Wow 50+ hours in a court room. You are hardcore. I think I spent 50+ just on my Mock Trial class. Add in about 20 more relevant classes and about 300 more hours and I might show respect. Fifty hours in a courtroom? Who are you? Michael Jackson? Fifty hours on the defensive isn't very impressive and you shouldn't be too happy to say that you have spent 50 hours in a courtroom. Oh, wait, this is the internet. I have spent 194,035,034 hours in a courtroom.

Show me your VAST knowledge of the law.

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[darksecret]

First off nothing you've said about law has anything to do with North Carolina law my time in a courtroom has been in a NC courtroom with NC judges and NC lawyers, I don't know anything about the great state of Wisconsin and the laws there, you're telling me you spent all those hours in court just proved to me you know nothing about North Carolina law since Wisconsin schools don't have a need to study NC law, and besides you study Criminal Justice, we get credits for that in high school, what are in community college.

Yes you're right about the reparations our people get a whole $2,000 a year and we were involved with the Trail of Tears, nobody took my land or anything indian related from me and that is why I don't say anything about racism and haven't lost anything and the only comment is I could pull the card if I wanted, but why should I. I can tell you're a bigot for the simple fact that you disregard the fact that I was in the Marines 2nd CEB (for you simple minded folk, that's Combat Engineer Battalion), they pulled me because of my reddish skin not because i'm indian, and that my state laws and police force differ from Wisconsin, but you act like Wisconsin is the standard. I could do the same thing by saying how would you know anything about law when your cases consist of "my brother slept with my 14 year old daughter and now she is giving birth to my nephew", I know that was cold but like I said I know nothing of Wisconsin same as you don't know anything of North Carolina, I see the crap that goes on here, you don't, it's that simple, we don't have regular deaths due to street racing, h*** we don't have one that I can remember (this is organized that i'm talking about, if a kid gets himself killed trying to race home from school that's just stupid), yeah one death is too many then I guess they should disband all police forces across the nation since Kim Medlin was murdered by Officer Josh Griffin of the Monroe Police Dept., and don't pull that we need police and not street racing crap either. Street racing has been around forever and if it wasn't for that motorsports wouldn't be where they're at, we wouldn't want a turbo to slap on the 5S or have a use for the 3S, yeah you could go to the track, then everyone plays by the rules and goes to a track and now you're sitting in this 2 hour line waiting for your one run down the track, then they build more tracks to compensate for everyone playing by the rules, but because of the noise ordinance they are stuck with limited room now this city has to shut down these tracks so that the development that just poped up down the street can have peace. What's the purpose of building a 400hp Corvette, Evo, or any powerful car for that matter, they know people are going to use that power and for the people that don't that's why they make a V6 Mustang and a GT, they also know that everyone with that power will not go to a track, because of the above statement. Let's go with a perfect world, in your case Andason, Wisconsin, alright what would happen if there were no street races and everyone followed the rules; first off they would want to race somewhere then like above they build more tracks, well if you've ever seen how big the race scene is there just isn't enough room to satisfy everyone, so those that don't feel like waiting a few hours to make one run on their only night off from work or something like that won't street race because this world (Wisconsin) is like a Walgreens commercial other than tracks can't fit on every corner and tracks aren't open 24 hours a day. Well these people that can't race feel that if they can't they don't need that kind of power if they can't use it, but 12,13, or 14 seconds a night, so they get rid of their performance machine and since tracks are only limited to the amount of people they can safely let race all of the people that can't race get rid of their cars too. Now you see where i'm going sales drop on performance cars and the automotive industry decides to quit making them because they can't cover the cost of production (good example is the Camaro/Firebird). Now if you do want a performance machine you are limited to a handful of cars that the tracks can support and the automotive and parts industries will suffer dramatically over this. It sounds far fetched because it's a snow ball effect, but it's highly possible if things were perfect and nobody street raced. This isn't some new problem that started with a movie, street racing is the reason why Chevy made the '55 Shoebox which created a huge market for the American V8. I don't like to see people bash street racing unless they know what goes on behind the news articles, and you Andason, keep telling me I sound ignorant about law, but I do know a little, you know nothing about street racing other than what the media states and of course they make it sound bad, news sales. I could go on about the Iraq thing because some of the Marines that worked for me are over there and I can relate when they say they feel like Mercs, they feel they aren't fighting for the US anymore, it's a money thing now and they hate the fact that while they sit there guarding some oil field so that Bush can make money off of it, they have to make their families suffer, read the friggin papers, people aren't re-enlisting, and if the draft starts back, while my a** is sitting there with my 240G waiting for those people we "liberated" to attack again, you tell me how it feels to be sitting in the middle of the desert with GRUNT (Ground Unit Untrained) training wishing you could go home and finish that CJ degree instead of sitting there maybe getting killed so Bush doesn't lose a couple million off of a damaged oil field.

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[SexyCelica]

yes andason that was awesome ahahahahhah who thought 50 hours in a court room was alot??? and was proud????

[darksecret]

Why do I need a vast knowledge of law I have a copy of the NC General Statutes sitting on my desktop, that's how I know that Ch.71A-3 states that Lumbee Indians became an actual tribe in 1977, but didn't get any reparations until 2001, prior to 1977 they were known as the Cherokee Indians of Robeson County or the Croatans. There are also no known laws to combat organized street racing in NC other than the typical Preemptive Racing law that we learn in driver's ed. Technically the punishment of getting your car empounded when getting busted would fall under chapter 8, but it only refers to witnesses, and paperwork, nothing about keeping a vehicle in an empound yard as physical evidence, but a photograph would work just fine. I can keep looking to see if I can find a real law against street racing but it might take a couple of days, or a bill to pass. Since you seemed to ignore me before Andason, I don't specialize in law, I took a Criminal Justice class in high school, I am a computer tech., you ask me why your computer won't boot and I can give you 10 reasons off the top of my head, just like if you don't know you probably look it up. Street racing is wrong, yes, is there any real laws against it, no. I can tell you the reasons I see, I don't go off what I hear, I go off what facts I can find, and I don't look for Bob's website of facts either, I look at reputable sites such as charlotte.com or ask Rhonda Miller who is a magistrate and my friend, when I stand there while my car is being searched at 11:30pm and ask the narc agents partner why and their only response is they're bored, it burns me up. You will not change my opinion and if I die in a street race I know I died doing what I loved, instead of taking a bullet to make a man a quick buck. I can already tell you're wanting to pull that you'll take someone with you crap, but as before there have been no fatalities due to organized street racing in Charlotte so you might have to wait a while before I tell you how it feels, but I can tell you now that if they died watching or racing, they knew the consequences and I wont have pity for them, you don't do it so don't bother responding about the street racing thing until you actually go out and get a few runs under your belt. You can check the NHTSA to find racing laws but remember most organized street races are held outside their jurasdiction and the records they have are based on the "high school kid racing home" B/S that is not organized street racing.

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First off nothing you've said about law has anything to do with North Carolina law my time in a courtroom has been in a NC courtroom with NC judges and NC lawyers, I don't know anything about the great state of Wisconsin and the laws there, you're telling me you spent all those hours in court just proved to me you know nothing about North Carolina law since Wisconsin schools don't have a need to study NC law, and besides you study Criminal Justice, we get credits for that in high school, what are in community college.
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Are you trying to say my program is worthless? What a pathetic attempt at a rebuttal. Law is generally the same regardless of state. They all generally require the same elements and the wording of the laws are different. Policing procedure is generally the same too because people don't expect to be treated a lot different just because they are in a different state. I was joking about the courtroom making fun of you because this is the internet and I can say whatever I want to in order to make my argument look better.

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I can tell you're a bigot for the simple fact that you disregard the fact that I was in the Marines 2nd CEB (for you simple minded folk, that's Combat Engineer Battalion),
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Wow, that makes you special. An engineer? You must have had barrages of bullets fired at you in the garage. Though an essential part of the military, you just keep the equipment running for the real heros. I have dozens upon dozens of friends stationed in different parts of Iraq (Samarra to name the worst) and I respect them much more because of what they do.
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you act like Wisconsin is the standard. I could do the same thing by saying how would you know anything about law when your cases consist of "my brother slept with my 14 year old daughter and now she is giving birth to my nephew", I know that was cold but like I said I know nothing of Wisconsin same as you don't know anything of North Carolina
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You are deeper south than I am buddy. If you want to look at politics look who went red and look who went blue. You act like NC is above the law, apparently NC is sovereign in creating their own extravagent laws. LAW IS ALMOST ALWAYS THE SAME WHERE YOU GO. Can you commit crimes in NC that you would get away with in WI or vice-versa? Yeah. Exactly.
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but because of the noise ordinance they are stuck with limited room now this city has to shut down these tracks so that the development that just poped up down
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Oh my God... you have NOISE ORDINANCES in NC????? WOW!

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Let's go with a perfect world, in your case Andason, Wisconsin, alright what would happen if there were no street races and everyone followed the rules
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That would be one step closer to utopia and keep idiots like you from abusing the power of their car and killing people. Tell me... what practical use does a 400 horsepower car have?
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the automotive and parts industries will suffer dramatically over this. It sounds far fetched because it's a snow ball effect, but it's highly possible if things were perfect and nobody street raced.
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Wow, you can't possibly be serious. Have you ever not had a car for a few days? Imagine riding your bike to work every day. Automobiles will still be needed and thriving. I don't know about you but your precious massive displacement automobiles are becoming less and less popular and are dying in the market because of gas prices.

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keep telling me I sound ignorant about law, but I do know a little, you know nothing about street racing other than what the media states and of course they make it sound bad, news sales.
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Yeah, because we don't have street racing in Wisconsin. Please list me how street racing benefits society and our community. Your suffered automotive loss argument has already failed.
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I could go on about the Iraq thing because some of the Marines that worked for me are over there and I can relate when they say they feel like Mercs, they feel they aren't fighting for the US anymore, it's a money thing now and they hate the fact that while they sit there guarding some oil field so that Bush can make money off of it, they have to make their families suffer, read the friggin papers, people aren't re-enlisting, and if the draft starts back, while my a** is sitting there with my 240G waiting for those people we "liberated" to attack again, you tell me how it feels to be sitting in the middle of the desert with GRUNT (Ground Unit Untrained) training wishing you could go home and finish that CJ degree instead of sitting there maybe getting killed so Bush doesn't lose a couple million off of a damaged oil field.
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Once again, you sat in a garage. MECHANIC. My friends are all INFANTRY. They make fun of you all day about how you complain how bad you have it. They do not complain why they are there because they know they are helping. You complain cuz you sit in a garage all day.

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Why do I need a vast knowledge of law I have a copy of the NC General Statutes sitting on my desktop, that's how I know that Ch.71A-3 states that Lumbee Indians became an actual tribe in 1977, but didn't get any reparations until 2001, prior to 1977 they were known as the Cherokee Indians of Robeson County or the Croatans.
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WOW. I have a copy of every states statutes sitting at my fingertips... it's called Findlaw.com.
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There are also no known laws to combat organized street racing in NC other than the typical Preemptive Racing law that we learn in driver's ed. Technically the punishment of getting your car empounded when getting busted would fall under chapter 8, but it only refers to witnesses, and paperwork, nothing about keeping a vehicle in an empound yard as physical evidence, but a photograph would work just fine. I can keep looking to see if I can find a real law against street racing but it might take a couple of days, or a bill to pass.
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It falls somewhere under "reckless endangerment, reckless driving" catagory. Look that up in your statutes.
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Since you seemed to ignore me before Andason, I don't specialize in law, I took a Criminal Justice class in high school, I am a computer tech., you ask me why your computer won't boot and I can give you 10 reasons off the top of my head, just like if you don't know you probably look it up.
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Where did you go? Boot camp? Yeah once again, you sit there in air conditioning at a computer and get fatter while cops are in -32 below weather helping people out.
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Street racing is wrong, yes, is there any real laws against it, no. I can tell you the reasons I see, I don't go off what I hear, I go off what facts I can find, and I don't look for Bob's website of facts either, I look at reputable sites such as charlotte.com or ask Rhonda Miller who is a magistrate and my friend, when I stand there while my car is being searched at 11:30pm and ask the narc agents partner why and their only response is they're bored, it burns me up.
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They say they are bored to not come out with the obvious. They aren't going to say we are looking for narcotics.
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You will not change my opinion and if I die in a street race I know I died doing what I loved, instead of taking a bullet to make a man a quick buck.
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You aren't the person I am worried about. It is the person who you hit who doesn't like street racing and has a bright life ahead of them. You end it over your bloodsport.
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I can already tell you're wanting to pull that you'll take someone with you crap, but as before there have been no fatalities due to organized street racing in Charlotte so you might have to wait a while before I tell you how it feels, but I can tell you now that if they died watching or racing, they knew the consequences and I wont have pity for them, you don't do it so don't bother responding about the street racing thing until you actually go out and get a few runs under your belt.
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We were all 16 at one point. So what if there have been no deaths in Charlotte because of street racing? There have been deaths in other places and it is inevitable.
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You can check the NHTSA to find racing laws but remember most organized street races are held outside their jurasdiction and the records they have are based on the "high school kid racing home" B/S that is not organized street racing.
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No street racing is "organized." It is still illegal. Just because you can't find a direct law saying street racing is illegal you have to look at the elements. Speeding, Excessive Excelleration, Reckless driving, Reckless Endangerment, Possible vehicle code violations, etc. Think of how many laws you break on your next "run."

By the way.... who races an unmodified 6gc?


PS i dont know why the quotes didnt work... but you get the idea.

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[ILuvMyCelica95]

Ok I ignored this thread for a while because it seems to be out of hand... but what i dont understand is why you would take the chance street racing.

Idk about other states but in NYS if you get caught it constitutes a misdemenor plue a fine up to $525.00... and if you get a second conviction within 12 months of the first violation you can be imprisoned for up to 6 months and fined up to $750.00. In my opinion I don't think its worth it.

Tell me if im wrong because i dont know much about racing... but aren't there enclosed race tracks where people can do this with out endangering other people? I'm pretty sure im right about that.

and just to add my two cents ( even though im sure its not welcome) The cops don't suck... yes there are some officers who aren't good cops... and yes some are racist... but im sure that the number is small compared to how many really do make a difference and do a good job. Maybe if people took repsonsibilty for when they do something wrong... the wouldnt think the cops suck...

Oh and Andason... are you studying to be a lawyer?... if your not... you should be. Just some imput from me, i listen to lawyers all day.

[Andason]

Oh and Andason... are you studying to be a lawyer?... if your not... you should be. Just some imput from me, i listen to lawyers all day.
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I'm considering law as a route. I have the LSAT in June so we'll see how I do there. Thanks for the encouragement

[ILuvMyCelica95]

Im studying to be a paralegal right now and i work in a law office. I really think you should go for your LSAT, and your welcome!

[darksecret]

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Are you trying to say my program is worthless? What a pathetic attempt at a rebuttal. Law is generally the same regardless of state. They all generally require the same elements and the wording of the laws are different. Policing procedure is generally the same too because people don't expect to be treated a lot different just because they are in a different state. I was joking about the courtroom making fun of you because this is the internet and I can say whatever I want to in order to make my argument look better.

No your program means a lot to Wisconsin, but doesn't help much elsewhere, unless your studys are for federal law. If law was the same everywhere all lawyers could go to school and be able to work in any state, they have state specific lawyers for a reason, just like each state has it's own statutes. The laws derive from a similar source but if I get pulled in Virginia because of a radar detector I fall under Virginia law and it's illegal to have them, doesn't matter if i'm from North Carolina or not. Internet or not this place is a community and I have seen that you don't play well with others, especially Coomer. I feel everyone is entitled to an opinion and that is why I keep up this argument, you won't actually prove me wrong just like I wont actually prove you wrong, there will be people that go both ways, earlier you were acting borderline racist, I can tell by the way you defended, that you hate to see another race get ahead, with todays world I could care less what race they are, if they get ahead for no reason or have ample restitution and still complain then they need to go somewhere else.


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Wow, that makes you special. An engineer? You must have had barrages of bullets fired at you in the garage. Though an essential part of the military, you just keep the equipment running for the real heros. I have dozens upon dozens of friends stationed in different parts of Iraq (Samarra to name the worst) and I respect them much more because of what they do.

I take it you fall under that simple minded folk catagory, just like lawyers, engineers have different fields, mine was "combat" we were infantry with explosives, our job was to go into a city or enemy base before the infantry and blow the h*** out of it, we didn't build bridges or camps (that's Army CE's) we worked beside Marine Recon to give the enemy as much s*** as we could so that our "heros" wont get their a** shot off trying to infiltrate a base, an argument about the military is one you will definitly lose with me. You say you have dozens of friends at war, buddy I have people I lived with and treated as brothers that are there.


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You are deeper south than I am buddy. If you want to look at politics look who went red and look who went blue. You act like NC is above the law, apparently NC is sovereign in creating their own extravagent laws. LAW IS ALMOST ALWAYS THE SAME WHERE YOU GO. Can you commit crimes in NC that you would get away with in WI or vice-versa? Yeah. Exactly.

Like I said that was cold and I deserve that. If law was the same how can I commit a crime here that I can get away with there, doesn't that make them different. As far as voting it's all electoral vote anyway, and Bush proved in 2001 that voting is usless, also most people in the military are republican and we have four major military installations here each having a population almost the size of Charlotte, so it's a little one sided.


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Oh my God... you have NOISE ORDINANCES in NC????? WOW!

OMG... I bet most states have them in some form. It hinders track development leading to more street racing.


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That would be one step closer to utopia and keep idiots like you from abusing the power of their car and killing people. Tell me... what practical use does a 400 horsepower car have?

I found plenty of use for the 400 horses my truck had, won some cash in burnout contest (parking lot bet, not at a car show), never even hit a curb in it either much less a person.


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Wow, you can't possibly be serious. Have you ever not had a car for a few days? Imagine riding your bike to work every day. Automobiles will still be needed and thriving. I don't know about you but your precious massive displacement automobiles are becoming less and less popular and are dying in the market because of gas prices.

I didn't say it would be the end of the auto industry, bigot. My precious massive displacement automobile got a resonable 19mpg for 350ci (that's cubic inches) not good, but not bad. High displacement will be around as long as combustion engines are around, h*** the Celica GT is considered high displament for a 4 cylinder, look at the GTO and new Vette they get better mileage for displacement than most cars in there class, it's not like the Supra gets Prius mileage anyway.


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Yeah, because we don't have street racing in Wisconsin. Please list me how street racing benefits society and our community. Your suffered automotive loss argument has already failed.

Who are you to judge it failed it was a theory, you took what you wanted from that statement and went, gas skyrocketed in the '80s and the 350 made it through, h*** the 360 Magnum made it and it drinks gas. You probably don't have street racing in Wisconsin since you have uber-cops that don't let any crime happen and everyone just takes their punishment and are happy with it. What does skateboarding benefit people get hurt and killed, in the '80's and '90's it was the biggest problem in cities, street racing is just modern day skateboarding, people wont accept it until they block off the streets and have an all day event open to anyone wanting to run, it's different than drag racing, there is a different atmosphere at a street race, in drag it's like being at a NASCAR race, and gets boring after a while, you tend to know who might win since they basically announce all your mods and power levels. Street racing will never be on the list of high school sports, but what purpose does drag racing provide, people die in other sports just as easily as street racing, in a lot of cases legal drag racing is more dangerous than street racing, I would much rather be the opponent of a guy who only gets to 60 in 5 or 6 seconds than one that gets to 150 in that and if I don't want to run the 150mph guy I can take myself to another track if it didn't take 2 hours and by the time I got there it was closed, it's not like we plot a road course through Charlotte, this isn't a video game


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Once again, you sat in a garage. MECHANIC. My friends are all INFANTRY. They make fun of you all day about how you complain how bad you have it. They do not complain why they are there because they know they are helping. You complain cuz you sit in a garage all day.

If they think they're helping they work for the wrong people, you said before if Saddam was still power gas would be around $4 a gallon then why didn't he just jack up prices after the Gulf War, he had the opportunity, even better why did gas stay low when he was there, but as soon as election season was over it shot up. Your friends must be in the Army, they wouldn't know what a Marine Combat Engineer was if we shoved a claymore up their a**,Army Combat Engineers are the equivalent of the Marines Engineer Support Battalion (i.e. civil engineers) and what would anyone that shoots a gun with both eys open know about combat anyway, you can tell your friends that when the Army lets them shoot at targets more than 300m away and know what it actually feels like to be in chamber full of nerve gas (I was an NBC decon agent when needed) then they can talk about how bad they have it compared to a Marine, a standard Marine trains with Rangers on a regular basis, a lot of them are good, well cut soldiers, but the grunts the Army has are a bunch of slobs and they need to worry more about training than when their next leave day is.


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WOW. I have a copy of every states statutes sitting at my fingertips... it's called Findlaw.com.

You just asked for my vast knowledge of law and with the wonderful world wide web it's as much knowledge as my fingers want and seeing that I do spend a lot of time online since I do specialize in computers I tend to know what can be reliable and what isn't.


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It falls somewhere under "reckless endangerment, reckless driving" catagory. Look that up in your statutes.

Don't need to, i've been charged before and it's just as easy to get out of it as a speeding ticket. That still doesn't state that there is no law prohibiting street racing with a clear punishment. People getting their cars impounded is on the discretion of the court not the law. Both of those charges are treated the same in court and have nothing to do with street racing directly, you could run a stoplight at a busy intersection and the cop has every right to give you a reckless ticket, you could back to far into a handycap sign and knock it over and the cop has the same right and could also arrest you for destruction of government property, it's up to the officer to judge people as they see fit.


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Where did you go? Boot camp? Yeah once again, you sit there in air conditioning at a computer and get fatter while cops are in -32 below weather helping people out.

It doesn't get -32 in North Carolina and most places where it does get that cold people are to busy freezing their a** off to cause any trouble (you ever hear of a serious crime come out of Alaska), I weigh 150lbs. and can run as long you want me to (remember I was a Marine), yeah boot camp you wouldn't know anything about that, I served my time.


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They say they are bored to not come out with the obvious. They aren't going to say we are looking for narcotics.

They didn't have to say that they were looking for narcotics they are narc agents, of course it's obvious what they searched for and all they found were tools, they said they were bored because the only narcotics being run through this area are on rigs and run outside of town to avoid the narcs so they had nothing to do.


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You aren't the person I am worried about. It is the person who you hit who doesn't like street racing and has a bright life ahead of them. You end it over your bloodsport.

Bloodsport, man this isn't a friggin movie, people who box shed blood all the time but it's perfectly fine for two people to beat the crap out of each other as long as the government makes a cut of the profits. There you go again "if I race i'll kill someone", like I said I stand a better chance of being struck by lightning than hitting someone in an organized street race, highway running is another story but those are very far and few between. Organized races are held away from the main roads where people don't just pop out of nowhere, usually when someone dies in a race it's a driver, passenger, or spectator and they know the probible consequences.


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We were all 16 at one point. So what if there have been no deaths in Charlotte because of street racing? There have been deaths in other places and it is inevitable.

If I hear of a death in Charlotte that will be, wow 1 in how many thousands of races performed. I know there have been deaths in other places, and just like Wisconsin doesn't have crooked cops doesn't mean it doesn't exist somewhere.

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No street racing is "organized." It is still illegal. Just because you can't find a direct law saying street racing is illegal you have to look at the elements. Speeding, Excessive Excelleration, Reckless driving, Reckless Endangerment, Possible vehicle code violations, etc. Think of how many laws you break on your next "run."

By the way.... who races an unmodified 6gc?

Then tell that to Fox News and the rest of the country since something illegal isn't organized, better hope someone from the mob doesn't read this. Of course there is organized street racing, what is it when a group of people get together choose a racing spot, go there choose the racers and set the rules, is it random occurance that everyone met at the same location at the same time and that they hauled a** down the same stretch of road beside each other and one just dropped a couple hundred and the other happened to find it, why do you think there is that little moving violation called pre-emptive racing (the only true law against racing, and it's a slap on the wrist), d*** Andason I know you study law and you put up a good fight but come on that was ignorant. By the way my favorite loophole when at a street race and the cops show up is when our spotter tells us they're on the way and everyone just stops the racing and just sits there talking, the worst that can happen by law is Loitering or Trespassing, because the cops can't prove anything regardless of what they know went on, and since we know most of the runners it's hard to sneak an undercover to prove it. I do, and the screenname says it all (ask easternpiro1 I can hold my own against some decent cars, not an Evo or nothing, but I give Si's s***) who would race a 12 second car on a track made for 5 second cars, besides i've given my fair share of a** whoopins' with my truck, people still don't understand why I got rid of it.

This post has been edited by darksecret: May 6, 2005 - 1:10 PM

[dustin15brown]

damn, everyone just needs to settle down