I just won a SDS system on ebay, Its a stand alone engine management Options

[nik]

i just won the EM-3 4F
http://www.sdsefi.com/



so happy now i can sell my piggyback system and the AE101 harness and ECU

standalone will be way less of a wiring headache

Systems Include:
ECU
LCD programmer
Air temp sensor
Water or CHT sensor
Main wiring harness
Injector harness\
Fuel trim control, +, - 50%
Comprehensive manual
Crank sensor (E,F)
Timing magnets (E,F)
Coil/amp unit (F)
Adjustable Parameters
RPM - every 250
Manifold pressure - 64 locations
Water temperature - 32 locations
Start function - 33 adjustments
Acceleration - 3 adjustments
Closed loop - 5 adjustments
Boost limiting
Rev limiting
Ignition timing - every 250 (E,F)
MAP retard - 64 locations (E,F)
Knock control (optional on E,F)
RPM switch - every 250 (optional)
Nitrous ignition retard (E, F)
Fast idle temp cutoff - 32 locations (optional)
Data logging AFRs vs. RPM
Extra Cost and Optional Items
MAP sensors (1,2 and 3 Bar)
Knock sensors
Oxygen sensors (1 and 4 wire)
Fuel pump relays
Fast idle solenoids
Injectors
Fuel pumps
LED mixture meters
RPM switch
TPS
Electric fan switch relays
Supercharger switch relays
Air conditioning solenoids
15,000 rpm software
Backlit LCD programmer



The 4F system, shown above, controls fuel delivery and ignition timing on 4 cylinder engines to 9750 rpm (15,000 optional). Its crank triggered, direct fire coil pack replaces both distributor type and OEM distributorless ignitions. It is programmable in 250 rpm increments with 64 boost retard locations available for turbocharged engines and ignition retard under nitrous activation.

The standard F delivers a powerful, long duration spark and is suitable on engines with specific power outputs of up to 200hp/liter. With the addition of an MSD DIS, power levels can exceed 400hp/liter. The 4F comes complete with coils and crank trigger. Fabrication of a crank sensor mount and installation of trigger magnets is required


This post has been edited by nik: May 5, 2005 - 11:45 AM

[FallenHero]

nice, what did it run you?

[Nemises]

I like.

[drdos]

thas the same system im getting

[nik]

nice, what did it run you?
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$625 shipped but i have to buy 436 worth of new parts that did not come with it

idle pump $80
update to 05 $70
shipping to sds $30
Map 3 bar sensor $90
new injector harness $70 one that fits my 4ag head
02 sensor $49
Trigger magnuts $7 for 2
and last a different resistor for low impedance injectors $40

grand total $1061 thats not bad new one with these opitions about $1800+

This post has been edited by nik: May 5, 2005 - 12:09 PM

[JoeyIsFunny]

How much of a performance gain do you expect from all this?

[97sccelica]

How much of a performance gain do you expect from all this?
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he will gain full tuneability

how much power he gets depends on the tuning skills of the tuner and the exact setup he will be running with his 7agte project

the thing i hate about SDS is that you can only see one value of one map at a time and that it has wierd dataloging.

they say that no laptop requirement is a plus, i say its a bad thing

also, i didnt know that they charge for software updates

[FallenHero]

why not megasquirt?

[97sccelica]

why not megasquirt?
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as of this point in time, the SDS has fuel and timing control in 250rpm increments

MS has fuel at 500rpm increments, and im not sure on the timing control, yet

two of my friends have 240z's with 280zx turbo engines swapped in. both have FMIC and upgraded turbos

one has SDS and a bigger FMIC and slightly bigger turbo

the other we are installing MSnS on tomorrow

should be interesting to compair them, but from what i have seen, the MS is way easier to tune

btw, i have dealt with SDS, UTEC, DFI gen 6 and a few other stand alones and piggy backs

[nik]

the update is just to add data logging
i agree with you on the no labtop thing
my emanger could see the whole map

now for the megasquirt thing

in short the shop i'm using is formiliar with sds and uses it alot the lastest being a S2000 pushing 600 horse

and the only dyno for miles knows how to tune the sds so it was a win win for me to get an sds i'm sure the megasquirt is a great system

[nik]

why not megasquirt?
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as of this point in time, the SDS has fuel and timing control in 250rpm increments

MS has fuel at 500rpm increments, and im not sure on the timing control, yet

two of my friends have 240z's with 280zx turbo engines swapped in. both have FMIC and upgraded turbos

one has SDS and a bigger FMIC and slightly bigger turbo

the other we are installing MSnS on tomorrow

should be interesting to compair them, but from what i have seen, the MS is way easier to tune

btw, i have dealt with SDS, UTEC, DFI gen 6 and a few other stand alones and piggy backs
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im sticking with SDS but just want to know what you would choose for a stand alone system? adn why?

[97sccelica]

for my WRX, i plan to eventually get a hydra system

for any other car, FAST or DFI gen 7