another 7afte w.specs Options

[playr158]

with a T3 50 trim .48 a/r w/internal wastegate
running a daily 1-2 psi and a "race" of 10-15psi
with an intercooler with dimensions of
24.5" x 12" x 3" controlled by a Profec E-01
(oh and i'm using a honda b16 Turbo manifold for the interest sake)

#1 can i do the 10-15psi range without issues?
#2 is it better to run external or internal wastegate with this setup, whats the difference
#3 is this intercooler sufficient enough to run the boost i'm using as the intercooler will be located in my fender as a SMIC
#4 the E-01 should be the only "controller" i'll need to run my system?
cause i will need to have the ability to switch boost levels on the fly, along with the needed engine control

thanks

This post has been edited by playr158: Apr 23, 2005 - 6:52 PM

[MonsterBOX]

dude..10-15psi? ur crazy on stock internals....no telling on a 7afte..depends on how old the engine is...rods are real skinny so i wouldnt push over 9 max and never over 5.5k rpm when its spooled all the way

[97sccelica]

with a T3 50 trim .48 a/r w/internal wastegate
running a daily 1-2 psi and a "race" of 10-15psi
with an intercooler with dimensions of
24.5" x 12" x 3" controlled by a Profec E-01
(oh and i'm using a honda b16 Turbo manifold for the interest sake)

#1 can i do the 10-15psi range without issues?
#2 is it better to run external or internal wastegate with this setup, whats the difference
#3 is this intercooler sufficient enough to run the boost i'm using as the intercooler will be located in my fender as a SMIC
#4 the E-01 should be the only "controller" i'll need to run my system?
cause i will need to have the ability to switch boost levels on the fly, along with the needed engine control

thanks
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b16 turbo manifold on a 7afe? who told you that would fit? bolt pattern is different, and i am pretty damn sure the exhaust port spacing will be off, and who's to say that it will place the turbo in the right place for a celica engine bay.

1. i wouldnt try too much over 10psi. 1-2psi daily is a joke, i dont even think they make wastegate springs that are below 3.5psi

2. external is more precise and consistant control. for your setup, its not needed, but it is the better, and more $$$ option

3. intercooler is a good size, more than you will ever need with out massive engine work, but how the hell will you fit that in the fender?

4. E-01 is a boost controller. it wont do anything engine management wise unless you run a Greddy Emanage.

[playr158]

if you knew....
the b16 turbo manifold has the pipes close enough where all you need to do is cut off the flange and reweld the 7afe flange onto the manifold
that way it will work...NIk is already doing it

1)1. i wouldnt try too much over 10psi. 1-2psi daily is a joke, i dont even think they make wastegate springs that are below 3.5psi

answer: with my motor build i can easily obtain 10psi without worrying
and basically what i ment by 1-2 was the lowest setting possible

2. external is more precise and consistant control. for your setup, its not needed, but it is the better, and more $$$ option

answer: thanks i'll go external then

3. intercooler is a good size, more than you will ever need with out massive engine work, but how the hell will you fit that in the fender?

oh massive engine work doesn't begin to explain it...
and how trust me i can

4. E-01 is a boost controller. it wont do anything engine management wise unless you run a Greddy Eman

e-01 is more then a boost if you even read what is on their site

[97sccelica]

ok, you didnt mention that you were building the engine, nor that you were putting a new flange on that manifold.

taken from Greddy's site:

"GReddy's new super multi-tasker is the PRofec e-01 designed as a combination boost-controller, data display / logger and e-manage programmer. The e-01 can provide superior boost response, increased boost, warning meter functions, 3 channel data-logging and access to all the programming features provided with the latest e-manage support tool."

it wont control anything more than boost unless you have an Emanage

[playr158]

looks like i'm running emanage too then

[nik]

man i didnt even see this thread well back from the dead to straigthen a few things out


ok 1st the B-series manifold lines up 95% with a 4ag flange i dont know how close it is to 7afe flange probably 90% but you can cut and weld extension on the 7afe flange to meet better with the manifold piping.

I also agree with the external wastegate and thats the route im taking on my 7agte

boost psi settings i would do 7-8 daily and 14psi + on the weekend with tuning

the greddy Profec e-01 and emange together is a really nice piggyback setup
also my greddy stuff is foe sale on ebay both units $500 thats a really good deal should check out it only has 2 days left

and last intercooler is fine

[playr158]

wow this is from the dead
yea i saw that but i got no cash for the piggy back setup

but yea external wastegate is how i plan on going
with the b-series manifold (great discovery nik)

but i can't runa 7-8 i need like a 4-6 daily
but my wastegate spring will be around 15psi
the reason i can run 7-8 daily is cause my exhaust restrictions won't allow such high boost without killing the motor on backpressure
its only goin to be b-manifold and a custom downpipe
the DP will lead to stock cat and piping until my axel which is dual mufflers

[nik]

wow this is from the dead
yea i saw that but i got no cash for the piggy back setup

but yea external wastegate is how i plan on going
with the b-series manifold (great discovery nik)

but i can't runa  7-8 i need like a 4-6 daily
but my wastegate spring will be around 15psi
the reason i can run 7-8 daily is cause my exhaust restrictions won't allow such high boost without killing the motor on backpressure
its only goin to be b-manifold and a custom downpipe
the DP will lead to stock cat and piping until my axel which is dual mufflers
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the b-series i learned about on club4ag.com but they used it on an 86 gts corolla and turned the manifold up instead of down

your going to run a 15psi spring ?? that means your wastegate wont open until after 15 psi. my external spring is set for 5 psi you might want a 3 psi spring

back pressure you want less gut your cat or no cat and i thought you were going to run a ported and polish head that will help flow

This post has been edited by nik: May 5, 2005 - 11:55 AM

[playr158]

yea i'm porting and polishing the head for sure
and for the spring i why would i want the wg open at 5psi? if i'm boosting 12psi or so? unless i'm misunderstanding the wastegate situation?

and the exhaust is staying fully cat and such because i want it 100% street legal smog wise hnce STOCK cat. STOCK piping minus the mufflers and mnaifold/dp
but don't worry about my exhaust i alreay have that trick up my sleeve

[97sccelica]

good luck running 4-6psi daily when you have a 15psi wastegate spring

[nik]

yea i'm porting and polishing the head for sure
and for the spring i why would i want the wg open at 5psi? if i'm boosting 12psi or so? unless i'm misunderstanding the wastegate situation?

and the exhaust is staying fully cat and such because i want it 100% street legal smog wise hnce STOCK cat. STOCK piping minus the mufflers and mnaifold/dp
but don't worry about my exhaust i alreay have that trick up my sleeve
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with a turbo i dont think you will be smog legal if you are it will be close to the edge. whats the trick a "Y" with a exhaust gate to change exhaust path and a flip of a switch

[CelicaST18]

a little off topic..but, i will be using a 1zzfe manifold for my setup...the pipe size and spacing is exactly the same. The bolt pattern is VERY close. I used a 7/16 in. bit to make the flange match the 7afe's...it is a tubular manifold, so i can put any flange on it i to fit the turbo...