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post Aug 7, 2005 - 1:54 PM
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Well, i was looking for an option for my car brakes... cuz they are $hity.....

And i did found one option, what is still better then stock brakes. It seems what ST165 has the same size brake disks, but it has dual brake pistons, witch would give us better and smother braking with them. So i bought a pair of used brake assemblys from ST165 and did a little test this weeken, and YES, they DO DIRECT BOLT ON. Nothing needs to be changed.

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post Aug 7, 2005 - 1:59 PM
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DOGGY you did it againn.... nice find...


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post Aug 7, 2005 - 2:00 PM
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Would you know if the us 165 version would have dual piston? Also how much did they improve or help? Also im guessing that would be the 89 or so, alltrac?

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Dunno about US version, but these came from All track ST165. About improvment - dont know yet, aint tested them.

I do know another thing what brake systems from ST185 bolt on directly on ST165 (rally guys with ST165 use ST185 disks and brakes cuz they are bigger, and everything fits nicly)

So i do think what ST185 brakes MIGHT fit ST as well without major problems...



QUOTE(Digndoug @ Aug 7, 2005 - 12:00 PM)
Would you know if the us 165 version would have dual piston? Also how much did they improve or help? Also im guessing that would be the 89 or so, alltrac?
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post Aug 7, 2005 - 2:38 PM
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Crazy! I just realized this a couple days ago too. Here was my predicament and I tried the AT200 rotors and was surprised to find that they fit. smile.gif

Unfortunately, I can't find pads for these calipers ANYWHERE.


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post Aug 7, 2005 - 7:14 PM
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Doggy, did you just swap the calipers or the entire assemblies ?


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post Aug 7, 2005 - 7:54 PM
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I didn't have to swap the whole assembly. I just swapped the caliper and caliper bracket.


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post Aug 7, 2005 - 7:55 PM
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i have a set of dual piston calipers for sale. they came off my jdm st185 clip.... so pm me if anyone want to do this conversion too.

for pads, cant u just use nromal alltrac pads?


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post Aug 7, 2005 - 8:15 PM
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QUOTE(lagos @ Aug 7, 2005 - 5:55 PM)
i have a set of dual piston calipers for sale. they came off my jdm st185 clip.... so pm me if anyone want to do this conversion too.

for pads, cant u just use nromal alltrac pads?
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You can't use single-piston-caliper All-Trac pads...and that's all I found on my quest for brake pads today. I hit six different auto parts stores and nothing they had for the ST165 or ST185 fit.


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post Aug 8, 2005 - 1:17 AM
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Try
https://www.1sttoyotaparts.com/partscat.html
use the mechanical parts, brake components

They're attached to a Toyota dealership -- in Washington state, as a matter of fact -- so you can call them to check details, but the prices are the best I've found for Toyota parts.

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post Aug 9, 2005 - 5:47 PM
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Nice job, but the brakes from the ST165 are, frankly, ****. Why on earth did you choose to fit them?

Most ST165 owners I know have moved to late spec ST185 brakes (single caliper), or aftermarket.


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post Aug 9, 2005 - 5:58 PM
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vote for sticky when tested?!@
post Aug 10, 2005 - 2:45 PM
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the US did have dual pods here are links

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http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductDetail....pe=5003&ptset=A

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http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductDetail....pe=5003&ptset=A
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QUOTE(playr158 @ Aug 10, 2005 - 12:45 PM)
the US did have dual pods here are links

front left:(loaded)
http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductDetail....pe=5003&ptset=A

front right: (loaded)
http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductDetail....pe=5003&ptset=A
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links are not working i'm very interested in this swap keep us updated


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post Aug 10, 2005 - 3:02 PM
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works for me?!

just go to
www.partsamerica.com

toyota celica all trac 1989
calipers

(thats advanaced auto parts)
post Aug 11, 2005 - 11:19 PM
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Interesting...they have the calipers on there, yet Autozone, Schucks, Carquest, and the non-chain local shops here can't find pads that fit them.


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post Aug 12, 2005 - 1:43 AM
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they have the pads on there too smile.gif
post Aug 12, 2005 - 2:34 AM
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QUOTE(playr158 @ Aug 11, 2005 - 11:43 PM)
they have the pads on there too smile.gif
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They had plenty of pads for ST165s in stock at some of the stores I went to as well...but none of them came close to fitting the dual-piston calipers.


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post Aug 12, 2005 - 7:47 AM
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i ment on the website..... unless i'm seeing sumthing your not?!
post Aug 12, 2005 - 12:05 PM
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QUOTE(playr158 @ Aug 12, 2005 - 5:47 AM)
i ment on the website..... unless i'm seeing sumthing your not?!
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Well, they're probably the same pads they have in Schucks, which didn't fit at all.


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