Budget swap Options

[drdos]

Ok i curently have a celica in the bakc yard sitting there. With a built 3sgte short block. now im thinking about doing a swap and boost it for fun.

now keep this in mind. keeping the stock tranny/clutch and etc.
Stock excuasht

now what else do i need for this to be sucessfull

so far i got on the list

Ct20b/Ct26
Oilpan
3sgte head
excuasht manifold
downpipe
headgasket
head bolts
injectors
3sgte ecu


is there any other misc other minor bull**** items that i am missing here?

[celicast3sgte]

Standalone ecu or 3sgte ecu matching the head (2nd or 3rd gen) you also missed the intake manifold, AFM(stock ecu), MAP (standalone), turbo timer to keep the turbo happy, oil/coolant lines, motor mounts, new flywheel, 3s pressure plate 5s friction disc, etc... im sure ive missed parts

[jgreening]

It would not be worth it. Getting a built block and head to flow correctly with a pea shooter turbo is going to be hard. You will have boost creep like crazy unless you had a restrictive exhaust (which would kind of defeat the purpose of the built engine). In addition, the cams and headwork will not allow the stock ECU to perform correctly so you will need some sort of fuel tuning (IMO, standalone is the ONLY smart way to go with this set-up).

I suggest you sell the block on mr2oc.com forum and dump the car (or part it out) for whatever you can get for it. You have a brand new IS300 and you don't need this headache. Getting even stock 3s swaps to run correctly is neither easy or a budget proposition - especially for people who have a very limited experience working on engines. Your engine would add other complicating factors.

[drdos]

well no one on mr2oc wnats the block, i have tried multiple times to sell it. and no one wants the thing.

and to celica3sgte

defnetly going with stock ecu with afm. dont needa turbo timer i got a manual turbo timer. got a GT so dotn need motor mounts, keep stock flywheel and stock clutch. just to get the thing runing. i want to get this thing to gether decnet shape and sell the whole car runing.

[jgreening]

well no one on mr2oc wnats the block, i have tried multiple times to sell it. and no one wants the thing.
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Then, it is priced too high. There are tons of enthusiasts over there that would buy a built long block for the right price - especially if you could demonstrate that the machine shop that did the build knew what they were doing.

[drdos]

well no one on mr2oc wnats the block, i have tried multiple times to sell it. and no one wants the thing.
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Then, it is priced too high. There are tons of enthusiasts over there that would buy a built long block for the right price - especially if you could demonstrate that the machine shop that did the build knew what they were doing.
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$1700 for a built short block isent that much.

[jgreening]

well no one on mr2oc wnats the block, i have tried multiple times to sell it. and no one wants the thing.
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Then, it is priced too high. There are tons of enthusiasts over there that would buy a built long block for the right price - especially if you could demonstrate that the machine shop that did the build knew what they were doing.
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$1700 for a built short block isent that much.
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Chico race works is selling them for $1500 right now. CRW is a reputable vendor on the MR2 board that has had thousands of successful transactions, gives a warranty, and stands behind his products. You are Joe Shmoe from New York. I bet you want to sell it as-is so if anything happens, you wont be responsible. Under those conditions, a price like $1000 makes more sense. Maybe you could get $1200-$1300 if the right buyer came along.

If its just a short block, what are you going to use for your head if you build the celica? The same one you had with the cams and head work? Or, is that sold and you are planning to buy a stock head? You also have alot of other parts to get and then the headache of getting it running correclty. Under these circumstances, proceeding as you are suggesting will likely lead to nothing but collasal frustration and wasted time and money.

That said, good luck with whatever you do. I have no vested interest in this other than trying to help you out. I know sometimes its hard to take a loss on pieces you have bought. I have done it and, while it stings at first, you get over it. Since you have "moved on" from this project already, I can almost guarantee you that you will have a huge sense of relief when all the parts are gone and you don't have to occupy your mind with this car which probably cost you alot of money in its final months. Throwing good money toward recreating a fraction of the dream that you have already given up on is probably short sighted.

Edit: you need more detail in your for sale thread on mr2oc.com. Which pistons? what are the specs? What type of overbore? Etc. etc.

This post has been edited by jgreening: Oct 16, 2005 - 6:10 PM