Cavalier Z24 vs Celica Gt, Who would win? Options

[SlowCelica94]

I beat a Z24 with my 6gc 3 outta 4 times at the track, so I have timeslips to prove it.

My advice- pratice launching and give him a shot

[bonzaisushi]

Yeah we know they are GM, but GM steals engines from Toyota...especially in that car. Many of the parts are toyota.
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im pretty sure we dont share motors with a crapalier.. because they have ecotec which is a GM motor.

[celiracer]

Ok. well i was always waundering for you manual drivers out there. when your racing what RPMs do you shift at? When i first got it i shifted right before redline 6000 but i noticed that at about 5800 you start to loose power so when do you guys usually shift? just curious Cause now im shifting around 5800

[DropTopCelica]

yeah i raced a z24 at the track and it beat me by 2 car lengths, i dont know what it had on it but i ran a 16.8 that time, yeah that run kinda sucked. My best was a 16 flat. =/

[o0black0o]

I never race from a stop. I only do highway races that way i'll never lose against those ****ty ****ing hondas. Hench I have a Auto......

I'd think you could take the little punk off the line. Even If you didn't, by 3rd gear he should be in your dust, i think.

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

I never race from a stop. I only do highway races that way i'll never lose against those ****ty ****ing hondas. Hench I have a Auto......

I'd think you could take the little punk off the line. Even If you didn't, by 3rd gear he should be in your dust, i think.
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I don't quite understand how racing on the highway is going to help you from getting beat by anything. You'd have to be pulling something pretty clever to out run most any modded honda. Sorry, that's just how it is, they are fast and cheap. I don't like Honda bashing, so every time I see, I just remind everyone how much faster and cheaper they are to mod than our cars. The only thing they don't have going for them is originality. And you can't say something is crappy just cause it's not original. Well, I guess you can do anything if you really want to.

[creis]

^ well I compleatly agree with you hondas are cheap and can be fast, but lets not forget the average 97 civic with the 1.5 ltr 97 hp motor, some can be very fast, most can be easaly built up to a higher hp then ours can for 1/4 the price. then again driver is everything, I have taken several v-tech civics (not by a long shot but a car lanth or 2 at best) because I can shift fast,

also gata remember that the govoner on our cars is set very high wile civcis and most other cars in the same class are set to 110, ours is over 125 (GT dont know about the ST) so if you can keep up with em just enough so that they max out trying to pull on ya your garentteed a win no matter what mods they have (unelss they get rid of the gov witch most people dont think to do)

as for the POS CAVI, I think you could take him, but its probilby a close race. I cant say I know much about em sept that they suck so

[celiracer]

See and thats the big thing. All of us 6gen owners know how much more expensive things are for moding our cars. honda,s acura's, and any other import out there have easy cheap upgrades that make them faster. Us we have to spend a lot more $ to make ours faster, Which if they understood they would be giving us WAY more props. I like the fact that its expensive to mod my 6gc cause then i can have a reputation of moding a car thats hard and expensive to mod you guys know what i mean?

[celicaGT96]

My cars an auto, and I have smoked a cav here with an intake and loud **s exhaust, and thats cuz my cars stock......just depends on your cars condition

[SlowCelica94]

Keep in mind this is a Z24.

Celiracer- First off, nice car. You have a very cleanly modded 6gc. Makes me miss mine a bit. But back on topic, You should be shifting at 5,500-5,600 rpm. 5,500rpm is the 5sfe's horsepower peak and then it just falls off. I'm sure you've felt it. Pratice launching too (if you have a clutch, if not ur screwed), drop tire psi for traction and IMO i think launching at 4,400 is best.

[o0black0o]

I never race from a stop. I only do highway races that way i'll never lose against those ****ty ****ing hondas. Hench I have a Auto......

I'd think you could take the little punk off the line. Even If you didn't, by 3rd gear he should be in your dust, i think.
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I don't quite understand how racing on the highway is going to help you from getting beat by anything. You'd have to be pulling something pretty clever to out run most any modded honda. Sorry, that's just how it is, they are fast and cheap. I don't like Honda bashing, so every time I see, I just remind everyone how much faster and cheaper they are to mod than our cars. The only thing they don't have going for them is originality. And you can't say something is crappy just cause it's not original. Well, I guess you can do anything if you really want to.
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I'm not sure.. I race little hatches all the time and ether kick the **** out of them or if one has a turbo, I catch up tell I maxx out... I don't think I have ever raced the Si yet, Id prolly lose to that. I raced a honda EX, w/ exaust, cai. And whooped the **** out of him. I stop at the stop ligh he pulls next to me and he words the word NOS... I figure he saying get NOS or I have it w/e im 2 poor for NOS.

I say I only race on highways because the celica has more power at higher speeds, i presume. Like a mini Supra

Plus seeing their face once I take OD off is more worth it. I know I sound stupid or w/e but I think they really are faster on higher mph. May not maxx out as high as them but can accellerate much quicker.

[darksecret]

the reason the mirage is faster is coz it's lighter don't your celicas have 3s-ge motors? I can rip the 2.4 cav's up they are slow and heavy.
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I think the reason the 1.6 Mirage is faster is because it has a Mivec 1.6 which is only availible in the RalliArt Lancer here and has around 170hp, the US Mirage would get killed by a GT, trust me the standard 120hp Lancer here is faster than the US Mirage and I can very easily outrun my OZ.

[celiracer]

Ya thats when i have been shifting at now. Because i new going higher i lose power. and thanks for everyones opinions and everything. This site is honestly the best. But anyways. I will prob. race him when i take my rims and tires off to put stock on before winter so my cars a little lighter.

[Celica_Fan]

my mirage isn't a mivec Mine is a cyclone 4G61 N/A 1600 I am never buying a nother mitsi again my cambelt broke had to get new engine $2500 than a week later the gearbox wore the gears out that cost $1400 to fix and the car cost $3500 to buy the loser we bought the car off told us the cambelt had been changed and it hadn't I have to pay back all my parents the money for the car and repairs and i'm looking for a job I can't wait to pay that heap of s**t off than I can save up and buy my dream car a 1994 red ss2 celica they are cheap in new zealand.

[darksecret]

Yeah it's actually in some JDM Lancers and US Lancer RalliArt, but your's is still putting out more than what a US Mirage has, ours is like 111hp. Mitsu's aren't real bad but the DSM group seems to suffer a lot from Chrysler interference. Yeah they didn't come out with the Mivec 4G until 2001 I think, but it's nice.