Sell it and buy a gt or what? Options

[MonsterBOX]

for the record guys does it make more sense to sell my st and buy a gt to the a 3s swap or just buy a 3s and swap in the st...i know its alot more work with tranny and all but in the end price wise what would you guys do

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

depends on the condition of the GT and your ST.

[MonsterBOX]

i mean its in great condition great besides a few dings here and there...but for the sake of doing the swap how much harder is it really with a an st vs gt

[StreetRacing10PS...]

only difference is the engine mounts. look up the post jeff put up on the 3sgte in the forced induction section. he shows you how to put the new mounts for the GT in on the ST. iam thinking about doing the swap also to my ST now because the 7afte isnt as power full as i want it and i got some money put aside and a second car now.

[MonsterBOX]

no...not just mounts...u got axles halfshafts and all that crap to source...tranny...any wiring diff?...and probably upgrade to gt brakes all around

[lagos]

read jeffs stickie... it has all the info in there. there is really nothing hard about it. wiring is the same, then all you need is a stock GT tranny, GT axels and GT motor mounts. thats pretty much it. people make it sound harder then it is.

[Batman722]

read jeffs stickie... it has all the info in there. there is really nothing hard about it. wiring is the same, then all you need is a stock GT tranny, GT axels and GT motor mounts. thats pretty much it. people make it sound harder then it is.

GT shifter cables too

edit: here is the link Art mentioned
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=28825

This post has been edited by Batman722: Jan 10, 2006 - 12:08 AM

[Dr_Tweak]

Really, it's not much harder at all.

The other things you might want to get are GT a/c lines and p/s lines, to make it go easier.

-Doc

[JFrost9]

you'd probably also want a GT ash tray, incase your smoking cigarettes in your swapped 3s.

Just my 2 cents.

[lagos]

you'd probably also want a GT ash tray, incase your smoking cigarettes in your swapped 3s.

Just my 2 cents.

everyone knows that swapers dont smoke!

[MonsterBOX]

thanks guys

[MonsterBOX]

with every single part on hand and wiring already done do u guys think this could be done in a week off from work for a beginner with some friends?

[lagos]

with every single part on hand and wiring already done do u guys think this could be done in a week off from work for a beginner with some friends?

not a chance in hell .

plan for 1-2months. stuff always goes wrong, especially if its your 1st time doing it.

[DJWashington]

Thats debateable..... if you got friends like i do u better pay someone

[Batman722]

with every single part on hand and wiring already done do u guys think this could be done in a week off from work for a beginner with some friends?

yes. The actual swap would take no time at all. Having all of the parts, wiring done, knowing exactly what to do in any and every situation or problem that comes up, does take some time.



but I doubt it

[MonsterBOX]

anyone live close to bham, al....im willing to pay for some help doing this...im really gonna need it done quickly once i get the clip in.....is it worth dishing out the 1 grand for autolabs guys?

[Dr_Tweak]

with every single part on hand and wiring already done do u guys think this could be done in a week off from work for a beginner with some friends?

not a chance in hell .

plan for 1-2months. stuff always goes wrong, especially if its your 1st time doing it.

What lagos said.

The other day, I was out in my shop, and I had to remove a shifter cable bushing from a shifter mechanism on a tranny. You know, those little rubber things that go inside the ends of the shifter cables?

The stupid thing wouldn't budge. I spent like three hours just trying to get this stupid thing off. Okay, it wasn't really that long, but I did spend a LOT of time on it, and I'm thinking, "Here I am, a professional and experience engine swapper, and I'm getting hung up trying to get a SHIFTER BUSHING OFF!!!"

But the fact is, those are the things that come up and slow you down. Lots and lots of stupid little stuff. Like I've always said: "It isn't the big stuff, it's the little details that slow you down."

In case you care about the rest of the story, it was actually the inner metal part of the bushing that was stuck (rusted) on here, and it just wasn't coming off. (Some of you guys know just how little room there is to work down there with the tranny installed). After I worked on it for a while, I finally took ANOTHER bushing, pressed the inside metal part out (tearing the bushing), and then installed the bushing over the metal part that was stuck to the tranny. With a good washer over it to ensure that it stays together, it was just as good as the real thing.

-Doc

This post has been edited by Dr_Tweak: Jan 11, 2006 - 12:46 AM

[lagos]

yeah...its always something dumb... striped bolt, missing part, etc...

i remember during my swap, was using a ****ty little hand saw to try to cut some of the wooden pallett that the clip was shiped on . it was taking forever and the whole time i was thinking " no one EVER told me i would be working with wood ! " lol

[MonsterBOX]

...im starting to get the picture..its def not like building computers...it just sounds and looks so simple until everything is ripped apart

[lagos]

if u want to get an idea of what your in for... take a look at this
http://www.celicatech.com/lagos/swap%20picture%20diary%2004/

i took a buch of pics almost everyday that i was working on the car. from the 1st pic to the last one, everything took about 2 months. 1st moth most of the major stuff was done. 2nd moth i had to deal with hanress issues and trying to get the right axels after autozone gave me 5 wrong ones in a row.