MR2 swap, celi engine will be FS Options

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

What I am saying is that going to a 5sfte can net you HUGE increases performance wise (on a percentage basis) over the 5sfe. Look at Manny (presure2) making 210+whp and 230ft/lbs+ torque and the stock 5sfe makes about 120whp. The suggestion that turboing a 5sfe is a "baby step" in power is not accurate - especially when you compare it to adding a cold air intake and synthetic oil like he has recommended to people in the past. I think we as a community need to do just as bulldog says and try to correct misinformation that is propogated by others.

You're right. After I posted that, I seen Shin's car and looked at what he posted about it. I thought about going back and editting my post. 5sfe isn't a baby set, but I'll stand by what I said that those guys all really want to go with a 3sgte. There's only so much you can get out of a 5sfte. But, that continues to be proven wrong. So, I don't know.

[kristinw85]

yeah there are risks with buying a used motor but it has been fully cleaned and comes with a 1 yr warrenty so if anything goes wrong at least i have a warrenty if i wasnt getting one i probably wouldn't buy a used motor for that much. also my buddy says he knows all about the ecu and the wiring harness and wont be a problem he just did he swap not too long ago and everything about these motors but thanks for everybodys concern

[Blakout16]

maybe he ment 140 hp. not 400. i hardly know a whole lot on engines and im thinking that a NA 5sfe next near to impossible - in practical means. that must be some serious 200 angle valve job

[MonsterBOX]

ive yet to see even a 300hp 5sfte....

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

ive yet to see even a 300hp 5sfte....

I don't think there's been a 250whp 5sfte yet. I'll have to check. I think Manny definately holds the record, and I know his last dyno isn't as high as what he running now too. Shin is close on his heals. I'll have to check about that though, I'm not positive. There could be someone else.

[kristinw85]

what about front clips anyone know how much these are and if they work on a 5fse?

[94GT]

I think you need to ask yourself a few questions before you continue this thread, because I've been following it and you're kinda all over the place.

1) How bad is your current engine? Does it run? Can it be fixed? Did you take it to more than one mechanic to get an estimate and find out exactly what they think is wrong with it?

2) How much are you willing to spend?

3) Are you trying to replace your engine with a nice reliable totally street legal 5SFE, or are you looking for performance?

Personally speaking, it sounds like you're not sure what you want. If you're happy with your car, just do the simple thing and take your car to some toyota specialist (NOT THE DEALER!), have them source you an engine and do the install. It'll probably come with a warrantee and that way you don't lose a friend when that MR2 engine blows up on you in 2 months (I don't recommend doing business like this with friends unless you're willing to take on all the liability yourself).

To answer your question, you don't need a clip if all you want is a new 5SFE. Clips are for more complicated swaps, like the 3SGTE, which is not street legal, but you can get around it with a little work if that's what you're looking for. If that is what you're looking for plan to spend about an extra 3k over the cost of replacing your 5SFE. Good luck.