Here's my story, AGAIN Options

[dustin15brown]

ok I have received mutplie pms and or IM's saying how I am ruining 6gc for my antics that Manny posted about in Lissa's thread. The thing is, I had a repsonse thread and Jeff deleted it for unknown reasons. So here is my justification again.

QUOTE(dustin15brown @ Jan 11, 2006 - 7:08 PM)
QUOTE(defgeph @ Jan 11, 2006 - 10:40 PM)
Jeff:Dustin is one hell of a guy. Willing to do whatever he can to help.
Enjoy those fogs
ME: including bash your threads if he thinks you screwed someone
Manny: at least dustin(batman722) never tried to rip members off from this site for $2ea. for the keychains, 30$ ea for the failed GB on the skirts,
and who knows how much on doggys duckbill spoiler.




The truth about things is here if u wanna read them, and if not, I dont mind either
Keychain:
As to Manny's comment is Lissa's thread I tried ripping people off $2 per keychain in the group buy. This was NOT the case and if it is said other wise, I regret to inform you that you are wrong. Randy contacted me about the group buy asking questions. He mentioned he was VERY busy and didn't have time to head it up. I said it was NOT a problem because I need more experience in successfully running a group buy. At one point a profit for me was mentioned, but it wasn't expected. I knew I was getting a free keychain out of it and that was enough for me.

Side Skirts: Manny posted that I was making $30 off of each side skirts that were in the gb that I attempted to run. This is true. I was looking at $200 in additional expenses to ship the side skirts to Lithuanina and then back to me and it wasn't fair that I lost that money. So I set the gb at 6 people and added $30 per set. That is still me losing $20 in something totally unrelated to me which is fine. I had very good intentions with that gb and getting it started. They are such a rare item I wanted others to have a chance to get them. I specifically stated to Randy while we were "bidding" on the skirts that it would be around $300 pending some expenses. I stand by my decision to add on $30 to each set to COVER costs, and not a profit.

Ducktail:
I will make NOTHING off of it, simply ask Romas. He gave me the exact price and that is what I posted. If there were mosre than 10 people I would receive a discount for EVERYONE, and they would have gotten it.

Conclusion:
Regardless of what everyone thinks my intentions were not bad. and if they were, this is America and everyone has the right to be profitable. Please stop with the bashing of my name. It is pointless. If you're going to bring my name into trying to make a profit, turn to everyone who has ever ran a gb on here minus the JDM side skirts that is going on and see who is making a profit. Exactly, every person is. Post your feelings if you like. I'm actually eager to see if this mattered to anyone.

This post has been edited by dustin15brown: Jan 16, 2006 - 4:24 PM

[Coomer]

well i suggest a rules and regulations post for future members who intend to set up GB. and also needs to consult either Coomer, Defgeph or Presure2 before the GB can be approved or.. vendors GB only. i think this will not lead to any of this confusion and dissatisfaction etc.. just muh 0.2c

Yes, that's exactly what we need, and management is working on something like this.

[dustin15brown]

Shouldn't Romas (doggy) be in that group too? He IS a mod and if he thinks someone is suitable to run a gb then that should be satisfaction enough, ESP since his name is on the line by creating the product

[jgreening]

I recommend that you limit your regulation to full disclosure by the person running the group buy. If you set up rules about who can and can't run group buys, you are just going to cut down on the availability of options for the members, cut out competition and drive up the cost of parts. Its Economics 101.

And Coomer, like I said, I think the bickering back and forth IS a good reason for moderator action. I just don't see the benefit of deleting the thread or suspending priviledges in these situations.

[Blakout16]

^ lol @ madmods. i have been chatting with dustin for a couple 30 minutes now, and i say the guy sounds innocent and deserves to be ridden of his sins. he trying to be honest and come back and say sorry for the confusion.

oops sorry doggy, i was adding in valuable information after the fact...

[doGGy]

Shouldn't Romas (doggy) be in that group too? He IS a mod and if he thinks someone is suitable to run a gb then that should be satisfaction enough, ESP since his name is on the line by creating the product

Nope i dont think im necessary in this group. Im glad Chris chosed me as Mod, but i dont want to stick in all this Judging process, cuz most of the time my point of view is different when some opther people cuz i was born/rised/lived in a different country WITCH has different way of life and different point of view - and as majority of members on 6gc are USA members, let the judgung be done by people who KNOW enviroment of all this 100 times better then me.

And as long as im a producer of the stuff more or less, i dont want what some people started to look at my like i have some "forces" over some other people if i do some judging what might look to people as not "fair".

This post has been edited by doGGy: Jan 16, 2006 - 5:21 PM

[lagos]

I think the bickering back and forth IS a good reason for moderator action. I just don't see the benefit of deleting the thread or suspending priviledges in these situations.

yeah i agree. it just seems like this is all about the few extra bucks he added to the price. if he was taking a huge hit on those group buys, then no one would be taking action agains him, no matter how much bickering was going on in his threads. give the kid a break.

[Consynx]

what about in this case:
Someone runs a GB as usual, but Does NOT want the item being purchased.
Should they be able to get the value of the item by adding some $ to the others?
see, this case does NOT work w/ ViS, but it still works.


THOUGHT OF ONE
Example: Romas was selling something i did a GB for, but i didn't want them. We set a target # of sales he wanted, and i tried working it out to where i got the value of the item, and the price was still cheapest(he worked w/ me to get this done)
of course it didn't happen, and instead i made near nothing, but the work was near nothing...so no biggie just some paypal fun w/ Romas, and Text messages

btw Romas, those Texts ran up my phone bill like $15, lmfao
i guess i get charged for overseas texting???

i know that isn't typed out well up top, i may try retyping later.

[dustin15brown]

agreed... I added $20 to my bill texting romas.... .20$ a message adds up quickly

[lagos]

what about in this case:
Someone runs a GB as usual, but Does NOT want the item being purchased.
Should they be able to get the value of the item by adding some $ to the others?
see, this case does NOT work w/ ViS, but it still works.


THOUGHT OF ONE
Example: Romas was selling something i did a GB for, but i didn't want them. We set a target # of sales he wanted, and i tried working it out to where i got the value of the item, and the price was still cheapest(he worked w/ me to get this done)
of course it didn't happen, and instead i made near nothing, but the work was near nothing...so no biggie just some paypal fun w/ Romas, and Text messages

btw Romas, those Texts ran up my phone bill like $15, lmfao
i guess i get charged for overseas texting???

i know that isn't typed out well up top, i may try retyping later.

... im i they only one who dosnt understand a word of that? hahaha

[Defgeph]

what about in this case:
Someone runs a GB as usual, but Does NOT want the item being purchased.
Should they be able to get the value of the item by adding some $ to the others?
see, this case does NOT work w/ ViS, but it still works.

You shouldnt have anything to do with the GB if you dont want the part. Thats elimating the prupose of the GB.
GB = cheapest price possible

[dustin15brown]

no, GB= group buy at a better price than what is available and what people are willing to pay. that is a gb

[Consynx]

i was asked to do a certain GB, which i didn't add money to, nor making anything out of, but it is known as my "best" GB, lol

sarcasm included, that GB ruined me, and many's opinion of me

*edit*: Cheapest price is Wholesale, btw

GB is just a group going for the same goal in order to drive down price.
i called Bulletproof on a GB for us, but they SUCK w/ GBs
runner gets like $12 off, everyone else gets $5-10 off they're already insanely "jdm" prices

This post has been edited by Consynx: Jan 16, 2006 - 5:26 PM

[Defgeph]

ok

[dustin15brown]

I still have respect for u steve, and on a side note this is the quickest thread to grow EVER

[lagos]

I still have respect for u steve, and on a side note this is the quickest thread to grow EVER

you must have missed the inhaler thread then

[Blakout16]

when was this enhaler thread? cuz i've been around a quite along time... oops, this is just asking for a delete

[dustin15brown]

I still have respect for u steve, and on a side note this is the quickest thread to grow EVER

you must have missed the inhaler thread then

yeah i misesd it apparently.. fill me in

[Batman722]

this whole thing is stupid. Just let it go.

but since it is here I will give my opinion....

dustin15brown bought the lotus skirts knowing someone else really wanted them (not me). dustin15brown's reasoning (what he told me) was to either put them onto his new celica he would be getting in the summer and/or to send them to Romas to be reproduced. I told him about how much the skirts would cost to get shipped to Lithuania (I have shipped a few parts to Romas before) and I told him it would cost big $$. Romas is a busy guy, he has many other parts he is producing and these would take some time. He also said if there was no interest from a GB then he would sell them for the cost he got them.

So knowing he paid $225 for the skirts and the cost to send to Romas I told him that there was no way these were gonna be available to members at a reasonable price (under $300). Especially since the "dealer option" skirts are only $327.

So after all of this we find out he is making at least $30 on each set of skirts, that is at least $30 less that anyone who was interested in the GB could of paid for each set of skirts. At least $30 out of a members pocket to another...that IMO isn't right. "Community" and "members helping members" is not what that is all about in my book.

So, if you bought a keychain you paid $2 more than you should have. And if you were going to buy a set of lotus skirts, you would of paid at least $30 more than you should have. Just wrong...

This isn't the donate your hard earned $$ to someone overcharging you site. Rip people off on ebay, not here.

[dustin15brown]

do you just not thoroughly read things? I justified the extra expenses earlier, and they were reasonable. The keychain gb that you keep referring to wasn't me expecting money, it was someone else suggesting it, and I don't know of any who says "No, I do not want free money, esp since the keychain price isn't going to go up by you giving me a percentage"

[ILuvMyCelica95]

this whole thing is stupid. Just let it go.