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> V6 swap, for me, better than 3S-GTE, Yep, here we go again
post Jan 19, 2006 - 5:07 PM
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at least i always have you guys to help me figure some stuff out so in the worst case i wouldn't be entirely alone

This post has been edited by K-ESD: Jan 19, 2006 - 5:08 PM


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post Jan 19, 2006 - 5:12 PM
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QUOTE(K-ESD @ Jan 19, 2006 - 5:07 PM) [snapback]381095[/snapback]

at least i always have you guys to help me figure some stuff out so in the worst case i wouldn't be entirely alone



who? the guys who are cheering you on... most of them have never done any major car work. as for the rest of us, we have never put that motor into a car, we wont be able to really help you, youll be on your own... thats what me, kwanza,etc have been trying to say this whole time. thats the price you pay for being the 1st to do something


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post Jan 19, 2006 - 5:38 PM
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sorry for being french, i have a hard time to express myself correctly

i meant you guys would be willing to help me figure out a solution to a problem, i didn't necessarly mean you guys would tell me how to do it. you know, give me advice, suggestions etc.... support is what i'm talking about !!

blah, i'm confusing myself with my own words


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post Jan 19, 2006 - 5:41 PM
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If this swap does become more practical and i still think it's a good idea - when i gather the funds - i would be paying someone to do the swap for me. I have neither the time nor the patience (although i have the majority of the knowledge) to so the swap on my own - Hence the reason i said IN MY POST that i would be taking it to the dr. , go ahead and "recant" - find someone else to call a daydreamer tongue.gif


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post Jan 19, 2006 - 8:24 PM
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i think its good to through some negative opinons in this thread, not only to discourage the weak hearted; but to help brain storm problematic areas with this motor swap.

how heavy is the v6 engine in comparison to the 5afe? Wont the gt tranny gearing waste the low end torque of the v6?
post Jan 19, 2006 - 9:14 PM
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12 hours later and all this pops up, I dont think much else needs to be said here unless its about v6 componets, all this bashing is non-sense, the few people that know about this swap need to speak about it.

I am pretty sure me and tweak have listed just about everything that needs to be said for the most part anyways, any other imput is awsome tho.

As long as you have friends or people with some knowledge to help you, I think you will be fine, I have only done a handfull of swaps and I believe tweak is probley the best for the job, but hence him being 2000 miles away we cant work together. Thanks for all the extra info tweak, and a good business transaction. hopefully we can get our v6's running about the same time, even tho I'd like to lay claim to fame to be the first but we'll see.

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post Jan 20, 2006 - 6:29 AM
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this thread is just the begining

i've copied all the info given here and i will continue to gather as much as i can and share it in a upcoming thread. Of course i will certainly credit who i got that information from wink.gif

thanks DTE and DOC, you guys ROCK !!!


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post Jan 20, 2006 - 7:34 AM
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So I gathered more info today for the mass's. the 1mz is gonna be by far the easyer swap. The wiring wont be to bad as how I look at it but there is one problem the factory tach wont read right no matter what creative wiring you do, unless you get the dash harness from your donor car, so all us v6 guys gonna look foward to aftermarket tachs. Another thing which doesnt reguard you too much but for the 96+ guys we are gonna want a 96-00 motor/wiring harness/ECU only, if 2001 they did some big changes to the OBD system as long with the harness so I wouldent try and mix and match anything. stay'n with the 96-00 OBD2 setup we shall breeze threw emissions, I am unsure about the inspection states tho.

If tweak or I get that last motor mount made, Ill get copy's made soon as possible, and have em out to all who want to attemp this swap.

I think personaly this swap is gonna be the cheap alternative to the 3sgte in the short run, if your looking for over 300whp good luck, but for the reliable DD that makes 200hp this should be fun for the rest of us, anything else comes up let me know. I was gonna keep mine on the low down untill the summer meet but o well.

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post Jan 20, 2006 - 9:34 PM
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how much does this motor make at the wheels and at the crank in stock trim?


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post Jan 20, 2006 - 9:59 PM
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QUOTE(lagos @ Jan 21, 2006 - 2:34 AM) [snapback]381690[/snapback]

how much does this motor make at the wheels and at the crank in stock trim?


Not sure on the wheels, but at the crank it's between 190 and 210 I think, depending on which version you get.

Like clipsetuner said, there isn't much else that can be added to the debate until one of us does it and can say for sure one way or the other.

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